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Littleleaf posted 12/13/2012 19:24 PM

My DD was Oct. 18th.
I am 43, WS is 44. OW is 23. H and I went through four years of fertility treatments, and the loss of a set of twins. This year, in June the transfer worked. I was pregnant.

He started PA with her in early July. He had been EA with her already since May. She was his junior reporter in his office. He took house sitting jobs in the town he worked in, as it is over an hour to where we live in the country. He said it would save us money each month. He took our V.W camper.

He confessed in October, because she was pregnant, emotionally unstable and freaking out. She had come out to our farm where I was on medical bed-rest to tell me numerous times. He interceded, and had sex with her in multiple locations in our town, and neighborhood. Including our home.

He gave me an assortment of her clothes, as I knew her from work and she was clearing out her closet and thought I would like some of them. I wore them. He Skyped his parents, broadcasting my baby bump while I wore one of her shirts. He was so happy.

She has photographs of my farm animals, pets. She has photos of the inside of our camper, the flowers he gave her. Of him goofing off in her apartment. He looks so happy in her pictures.

He ended it with her. And is trying to R with me, and I was too at the beginning.
We agreed to set up an email address that we both have access to to speak with OW about the baby, she even has phoned our home and I have been part of those conversations. But, he phoned her last Monday from his work. He told me about the conversation, but that does not seem to help me deal with it. She had miscarried a four month old fetus on Nov 27th. And he felt he had an obligation to her to speak with her about it.
I am in such a dark and lonely place.
I am severely depressed and on medication. I am unable to eat, sleep. I am failing the baby boy I carry inside of me.
I have no where to go. I spent MY life's savings, and cashed my RRSP's for the fertility treatments. $$$$

I just need to relate this story to "someone".
To know that 'someone" out there knows what I am going through that is not an IC or MC with a notepad.
Thanks for listening.

dameia posted 12/13/2012 19:41 PM


Oh my goodness, it sounds terrible for you right now. I know that it is hard right now, I have been there, but please try to force yourself to eat and drink for the sake of your baby. When he comes into the world and you finally get to meet him, you will see what true love is.

Have you told anyone in your family or friends about this? If you are on bed rest it is vitally important to have a strong support system.

It sounds like you're dealing with a "bunny-boiler". The OW is unstable and you most likely have not heard the last from her.

I am sure there are more people on SI who can give you better advice, I just wanted to let you know that you were heard.

sadandempty posted 12/13/2012 19:46 PM

No advice here I just wanted to tell you, I'm so sorry for what you are going through! I'm in tears reading your post. Please take care of yourself, you and your precious baby, stay strong.

Gr8Lady posted 12/13/2012 21:55 PM

First and foremost, please take care of yourself for your baby. I understand the enomous strain infertility can have on a marriage. I had my miracle baby when I had all but given up hope.
Your pregnancy hormones are raging, and the betrayal and hurt you are feeling must be magnified a million times over.
Keep track of your intake and make sure you consume what you need each day for the baby. This baby is your miracle and he needs to be your focus at this time.

sinsof thefather posted 1/11/2013 01:56 AM

Littleleaf, Please try to make yourself and your health a priority right now. You are not the one failing your little boy - you aren't the one who put yourself in the position you now find yourself in. That's why I say make you and him your priority now. Once you have him in your arms you won't feel so lonely. I hope your husband is now focused on supporting YOU.

Please know that you can always come here to be heard. This is an amazing place filled with so many caring people, and there will always be someone on line to listen and support you. You can 'let it all out' anonymously and release some pressure anytime you need to. Please use us if you can.

I'm just feeling so much for you after reading your post. I really wish I could offer you more than a virtual hug ((((Littleleaf)))) but please know you and your little one are in my prayers.

Lalagirl posted 1/11/2013 05:00 AM


My heart goes out to you. My DD25 was told she'd never have children. She too had 2 rounds of IVF - the first one resulted in a miscarriage at 10 weeks - a little girl. The second resulted in my GD, who will be a year old on 2/3. She too had complications and every day was so scary. I cannot imagine dealing with this on top of what your WH did.

Did you know for an absolute fact that OW was pregnant? Many OW fake pregnancy and then a miscarriage. Sick, yes...especially that you know how it really feels to have angel babies. They even go so far as to use fake ultrasound pictures to show the "father" so he will believe her...some even pad themselves and when they get to the point where they cannot do that anymore and get away with it, the "miscarriage" happens.

As the other posters said, PLEASE take care of you and your precious miracle son. Take this one day at a time.

NO MORE CONTACT should be a part of your deal. You are giving him a gracious gift - the gift of reconciliation.

Are you and he in IC/MC? If he is truly remorseful, he will no longer contact her in any way. A NC letter should be written, with you present and sent, with you present.

You are not failing. Your WH failed you. He needs to make it right...he needs to care about his son and therefore do what is best to help you heal.

Finally, congratulations! Try to revel in the miracle that has been bestowed on you. Keep posting vent, to seek hugs, for whatever reason you want to. We're here for you.

Big hugs,


kurva1koma posted 1/11/2013 05:34 AM

Hi Littleleaf
Im sooo sorry to hear what your going through. I understand this is a very trying time for you and we are all here to support and encourage you.
Please take care of yourself and lil one. I know what you mean by not being able to eat and sleep as it is exactly what happens to me. But please eat and sleep for the pure fact that for many years you have treid for this lil bundle of joy to come forth and now that you have the joy of feeling him grow inside you, dont let any WS or stray dog get in the way of your love and nuture for yourself and lil one. You are the winner at the end of the day.
We are all here to encourage and support you so please feel free to drop in anytime for a chat to us all.
Many well wishes for the future littleleaf and lil bundle bundle of joy :)

Littleleaf posted 1/25/2013 09:16 AM

Thank You

Thank you for posting back to me...I am doing better now. I am being flown from our small town hospital to a large center today.
Turns out WH and OW infected me with a sti in the first tri mester - complications for baby now
Will not know extent of damage until baby boy is born.

Been VERY hard feeling any joy about this...he kicks and rolls around inside of me and I get annoyed. I pray this will change once he is in my arms...

Yes, we are sure she was pregnant. Dr. appointments, and then a collapse at the door of emergency ending in a womb scrape and blood transfusions.

What a f*ckin mess. OMG.
All because he needed his wick licked ! God.

We did have a NC agreement. He just broke it.

Considering D, just because his actions were so cruel - and I am in need of division from the sh*t and the Joy to Come.
Thank you again for posting - you have no idea how lonely and afraid I have been...
I look forward to your posts.
Littleleaf and Babyleaf

raerae33 posted 1/25/2013 10:04 AM

My heart is breaking for you (((((((((Littleleaf))))))))

Lalagirl posted 1/25/2013 11:02 AM

Turns out WH and OW infected me with a sti in the first tri mester - complications for baby now

OMG I am SOO angry for you! And so sorry.

Whether you D or not, IMHO, you should talk to an attorney...they have endangered your child - perhaps it's the reason for her loss? If she knew she was infected (him too) and did not inform you, I would think you would have legal recourse because this is not only giving you emotional distress, but it is costing you money for tests, monitoring the baby, etc.

He broke NC and talked to OW? Oh HELL NO! I'd be on the phone to an attorney. Even if you don't divorce, get the ball rolling so he knows you mean business. I know you're on bedrest; is there anyone you can talk to who can help you with taking care of legal stuff?

Gosh, I am just beside myself with anger and sadness for you - I wish I had words of comfort. I do have a ((((HUG)))) for you.


[This message edited by Lalagirl at 11:03 AM, January 25th (Friday)]

TrustGone posted 1/25/2013 14:22 PM

OMG...My heart just bleeds for you right now and what you are and have been going through. Just when I think I have heard it all, then I see that there are poor souls out there dealng with a whole lot worse. Please know that you and your baby boy are in my prayers. I so hope everything turns out OK for you and your precious baby.

You need to only concentrate on your baby right now. Everytime he enters your mind, say FU. You need to try and keep him away from you for now, until the baby is born. You do not need the added stress of him and his issues. Bar him from the hospital and your life and concetrate on having a healthy baby. I know you are lonely right now and I can't even imagine how you must be feeling. Please post often and anytime you are feeling lonely, just send a post and someone will respond. God be with you!!!! (((HUGS))))

mangledmom posted 1/26/2013 07:16 AM

I am in tears for you right now and your baby boy. I read in your profile you have even attempted suicide, is that right? That devastates me even more because this is your moment in life, your about to become a mother. What they did was despicable and cruel. She definitely sounds like a prize: mentally and emotionally unstable, has 0boundaries, a slut who will sleep with anyone (did he think he was so amazing that if he left she'd leave all that behind and just be witb him? Haha, so pathetic it's laughable) , manipulative, evil (taking pics of your home and life and posting them, wtf?!, moral less, etc. seriously fucker?! I asked my wh if that was the kind of woman he wanted to devote a life to. He said at first he thought she just loved him so much that she wouldn't do that to him. Really? Your her 4th A while MARRIED, that doesn't even include her before the wedding cheating. He said "well she hates her BH." Funny, because she told me the only thing she wanted the entire time she was having an A with you (1freaking mnth) was her BH. Sad isn't it, that they would give their entire world away for someone most will admit in the end they wouldn't want to apend their life with.

My heart goes out to you and your baby boy. My baby girl was having a birth defect corrected while WH was cheating. He was sharing pics of my baby girl with that slut and once he text me that she waa upset I didn't bring the baby in so that she could hold her.....she had 103 fever dumbass! I will probably never forgive him for using her as a way to get in more with a whore. I will have a hard time forgiving him for destroying the kids safety and for the very clear emotional damage he caused our kids. I just can't fathom intentionally harming the 3 most important people to me. Sick.

Message me anytime. I can give you my email privately too if you'd like. This is an incredibly lonely place to be, especially when people just don't understand the pain your in. I am praying for you and thinking about you. I am so sorry.

Littleleaf posted 1/29/2013 00:17 AM

Thank-you for your responses. I am NOT completely alone in this mess!!
Am now hospitalized for hypertension, and more testing on baby boy...who appears to be healthy with out physical defects.
WS is 8 hours away, working.
He says he cries about all of this when I am not there, on the way to the empty house blah blah blah
but he does show any where near that kind of emotions when we are together - talking about all this shit. I told him that he is lying about it.

We have discussed divorce, and the transfer of house and property and vehicle to me, along with spousal and child support.

He has agreed to it all.
Which makes me
The 180 are hard to do when you can not get out of bed...

I will let all you Angel's know how baby boy is ...

Oh latest good news - WH phones me in hospital - our funds have been frozen - everything :(
It just gets better and better.....

momentintime posted 1/29/2013 00:24 AM

Why would your funds be frozen? sounds like he is pulling a fast one. Time t protect yourself. Is anyone able to watch your home, is he emptying it of contents?

Take care of you and baby, try to remain calm. I wish I could kick his *ss for you.

sinsof thefather posted 1/29/2013 00:47 AM

and more testing on baby boy...who appears to be healthy with out physical defects.

Littleleaf I am so happy and relieved to see that your little boy seems to be healthy now. You and your baby have been in my thoughts and prayers. Keep taking care of yourself and him.

[This message edited by sinsof thefather at 12:50 AM, January 29th (Tuesday)]

Littleleaf posted 2/3/2013 21:37 PM

Physically baby is fine - whether he becomes deaf or blind or challenged as he gets older...?
The doctors have run all the tests, and done all that they can do. It is with the creator now. I am focused on eating, preparing and healing.
Thank you everyone for being out there for me to rant and rave to...86 days since DD.
Baby due any minute now...
but hopeful

stillcrying4ever posted 2/3/2013 22:02 PM

Crying for you. I'm so sorry. Please take good care of yourself. That little one will need you and you need him.

n0tm3 posted 2/3/2013 22:19 PM

Littleleaf, I am glad that you are in the hospital were you can be looked after. I was on bed rest at home and it was difficult let a lone going through what you are dealing with. My sister was on strict bedrest in the hospital in the high risk unit. It was hard but gave her a sense of piece knowing help was right there if anything went wrong. It was also difficult with her various room mates. Ask for a window bed if you do not have one. While you are there I would insist on your WH doing IC and reading lots of books on the subject of betrayal and how to help you recover from this. Whether you get a D or R he needs to change to be a good role model as a father. He needs to think about whether this is the type of man he wants his son to see him as. Take a lot of deep breathes and take care of yourself. Do whatever mindless thing you need to do to keep your mind off of this. You are suppose to be obsessing over the baby and talking none stop about your pregnancy like all the other pregnant moms. Not dealing with this shit.

Putto posted 2/26/2013 13:48 PM

Hope you are doing well. Please take care of yourself.

Skan posted 2/26/2013 16:34 PM

You and babyleaf are in my prayers.

edited because I'm a klutz

[This message edited by Skan at 4:34 PM, February 26th, 2013 (Tuesday)]

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