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Just want to end what I did.

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 hurtmywife27 (original poster member #38799) posted at 4:46 AM on Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Tonight I upset my wife "not calling her a BS sounds to in personal to me" like I have never seen before, she read a thread and it made her upset.. Very Upset. I didn't know how to respond she was shaking and it was the worst I ever seen and what does this dumb a** do but snap at her, by telling her she can't keep beating me up everyday eventually a dog will bite back! WTF was I thinking? I feel like driving my car into a pole at over 100MPH.I can't feel what she is feeling and I know I never will. But the fact is I hurt her more by snapping. Has anyone snapped by mistake like I just did. I love my wife terribly. Help please any WS or BS can reply even if its ugly.

WH (me) 59
BS (her) 45
D day 3/7/2013
Married 26 together 28
2 adult sons 25 and 22................................. I Totally screwed up.

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BaxtersBFF ( member #26859) posted at 5:03 AM on Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

I don't have anything...I'm sorry thins happened to her tonight.

What will you do next time? Can you have a game plan so you don't snap next time? Why did her trigger cause you to snap?

WH - 49
BW - gerrygirl

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Unagie ( member #37091) posted at 5:10 AM on Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

I don't know when your d-day was but yes I snapped. I snapped when he screamed in my face and called me a slut and a whore and a bitch. I didn't yell but I did tell him he can't keep treating me like shit. I asked how could he want to be with me if he thought so lowly of me. Mind you this was after a few months of berating.

TBH eventually the berating has to stop but if you are fresh into this then you need to realize how raw her pain is. I'm tired so this may not have come out great but I hope it helped.


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 hurtmywife27 (original poster member #38799) posted at 11:39 AM on Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

I actually snapped because she read a post on her, went to the bathroom, getting sick" I went to the BR to ask how she was. When she came out she was shaking.. Talking raspy and said take a look at this post its you but it was like we were back to day 1.. But she looked like she was having a nervous breakdown....I know I am to blame and I never thought in my pee brain that I would ever do this to my wife.. But the reality I Did! I Think I was scared more then anything when I seen her this way...Sometimes I just want to end it, drive into a tree, then she can live her life without a scum like me!!!!

WH (me) 59
BS (her) 45
D day 3/7/2013
Married 26 together 28
2 adult sons 25 and 22................................. I Totally screwed up.

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Pudding ( member #37168) posted at 12:59 PM on Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

No stop sign so BS here.

In my really bad moments, I have said some horrible things to my fWH and shouted and screamed. Once or twice, he has snapped back and yes, that makes it worse. He once told me to "get a life", which was what I though I had before he broke it.

Most of the time,however, he has been really patient and tries to be understanding. When I calm down after a raging session ( they are getting less and less as time goes on and we work through it), I really appreciate how strong he is being. I feel bad at the shit I've thrown in his face repeatedly. I must appear to have gone on and on about the same thing again and again. It is because, the fear, the sense of rejection , the feeling worthless and unloved is with us all the time and we just want things to get better. Once we get through it, and things improve, it does get better. I think that you have to allow for that ranting and raving though

My husband remaining calm in spite of my raving has really helped ( I know it's really hard). I can understand why you would snap, but please stay strong and help your BS through this. If you snap back, when we are being irrational, it takes you back a few steps.

One thing that has helped me is to write down my feelings Ina mood diary each day. I rant and rave there. It reduces me ranting at fWH. After three months, I shared the diary and that has helped. He can see the things that wind me up and the things that help me. Writing it down takes away some of the anger and would enable you to give a considered response rather than snapping.

Good luck to you. Keep trying.

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pizzalover ( member #38336) posted at 1:08 PM on Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Please don't try to hurt yourself. I tried to kill myself on D-day. It was the most selfish thing I could've done. Your life is worth it. It sucks right now. I know. I'm only 9 weeks out. It's hard to see my BH go through so much pain.

Trying to rebuild each day

Me - WW 41
Him - BH 41 (mpb1974)
2 Furrbabies - sweet cats

Met - 8/13/99
Started dating - 9/11/99
Moved in together - 3/03
Engaged - 6/5/09
Married - 8/21/10
D-Day - 1/24/13
Affair started 5/09

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heartbroken2012 ( member #38089) posted at 3:54 PM on Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Im sorry but I think its perfectly ok for the BS to yell mean hurtful things to the the WS. I mean, didnt they do something horrible to us? Most of the time the WS says horribly mean hurtful things to us when they are having the A, or in the fog? Are we not allowed to vent our anger and hurt?

I think its good that you care and recognize that your wife was hurting and shaking, and cared enought to realize that you shouldnt have snapped.

It is so hard being the one that was betrayed. It is SO painful. It hurts all of the time, every day. We think about it (in the early days) every single day...as soon as we wake up and when we go to bed. Everything could be a potential trigger. Please be patient with her.

Good Luck!

BS(Me)
WH(Him)
OW - (former co worker of WH)
Dday: Dec 2012

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nowiknow23 ( member #33226) posted at 4:29 PM on Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

hurtmywife - Have you apologized for snapping at her? Have you read the post that upset her so badly? Discussed with her what was so upsetting about it?

This is an opportunity to gain some important insight and start some honest communication. Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and try to use that post as a way to connect with what she's going through.

You can do this.

You can call me NIK

And never grow a wishbone, daughter, where your backbone ought to be.
― Sarah McMane

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Ashland13 ( member #38378) posted at 5:47 PM on Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Another BS here, too.

Hurtmywife's story moved me to tears because my STBXH shows such a lack of remorse or sorrow for ruining my life and altering our daughter's. I am so pleased that you did not run when your wife got upset because I don't have that with WH any longer. He used to comfort me and now he runs back out the door.

I am so pleased and jealous when I read a post with one of a WS who feels remorse. And I would like to ask opinions for why mine does not?

OW is this magical person to him who's farts don't smell, but she has fits at him-he says-then takes him back.

So I guess I don't understand why he tolerates that from her but acts in such a way when he is with his "family" he gave up?

I wish you luck, HurtMW. I can say that in my experience as a BS, I was triggered during false R with some posts about A's and one was types of A's and why a married person may seek them.

When I get as upset as you and she have been, I work really hard to clamp my mouth shut and just breath and count. Then I haven't said words I can't take back, but it took a long, long time to get that far-and I slip.

I have tried til I cry to learn what he was thinking when he said that first lie to OW and told her he was a widower...what was in his mind to make the "opportunity" happen, when he had someone so willing at home he's known for 20 years?

Ashland 13

A person is a person, no matter how small. -Dr. Suess

Perserverance and spirit have done wonders in all ages.

-George Washington

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SuperDuperWonderboy ( member #34716) posted at 9:30 PM on Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Talking raspy and said take a look at this post its you but it was like we were back to day 1.

If you want to reconcile, I would lose this mindset. It isn't going away in 3 and 1/2 weeks. You, my friend, are just getting started in a very long, very painful process. Hopefully a process that leads to the both of you healing.

But, you are just beginning to experience the fall-out. So is your wife, once it sinks in...good chance her anger and despair is 100 times worse than Day 1.

My wife used to snap at me too, then I would snap back..then everything would go to hell. It's tough, I know it wasn't easy for either my FWW or me, but we stuck with it and built something better..with TIME..LOTS OF TIME. Be patient, don't expect her to get better every single day. There are ups and downs..and some of these downs are going to be worse than day one. It doesn't mean she isn't healing..it's part of processing and accepting.

[This message edited by wonderboy at 3:31 PM, April 2nd (Tuesday)]

My Friends call me Wonderboy--That's Mr. SuperduperWonderboy to you Tred.

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hopefulmother ( member #38790) posted at 4:44 AM on Wednesday, April 3rd, 2013

I read your wife's post, then went to find yours. Sorry, but this is going to be a harsh reality for you.Find some other outlet than snapping. I agree, jot it down. We don't want to hurt our WH, but the truth is you hurt her so much she is probably seeing red (sort of how you saw nothing during the A). We have the right to talk and vent till the cows come home. It pales in comparison to what you did and how she is feeling. DEAL with it, if you truly want to be with her. She will most likely be like this for the next 6 months and maybe worse as it sinks in how much you were willing to give up for your selfish enjoyment. Eventually, she will come to a point where she will express how much you were willing to be a punching bag for her emotions just to help her feel better. Read the FAQ to help understand the timeline and why she keeps bringing it up.

Me-BW 44
WH-44 zugzwang
D-day 9-4-12
Major TT 8-14
Friends since 1993
Married 2004 with 2 children
My wedding band is a symbol of hope, forgiveness, love, and grace.

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disgracetoh.race ( member #33491) posted at 9:50 AM on Wednesday, April 3rd, 2013

Hurtmywife27,

Here is a word of advice from a man who snapped too many times

1. Expect to be hurt again. My wife told me many times things that I couldn’t imagine. Yes I have deserved all of them, but I couldn’t imagine them. Every time a new “biggest of all” insult flew in my face, I lost cool. I told myself many times “she can not say anything worse than this” and every time, there were worse things to say. I told myself I will be prepared next time, but I was not. The pain we WS’s have caused is so huge and so deep, that we can not imagine the effects it causes on our beloved ones. What complicates things more is that we are, if we are truly remorseful, in the constant emotional state of emitting love and sorrow, which puts us at the completely opposite spectrum of emotions. That is why it hurts 10 times more than it would normally do. So, if you don’t want to snap again, get prepared for even worse insults.

2. Every time the serious insult comes, you lose your cool, but during the argument, it looks to you like this is a “final straw”, deal breaker, and you are ready to say what you don’t even seriously think. Like a proper fight, every time you engage fully, you are not going to fight with one hand only, but, you will came at your opponent with everything you have. And, it is human nature, some of your most powerful weapons are insults and things we don’t really think but we are sure, even on subconscious level, that will hurt the most. So, those insults are not a “final straw” and you are not prepared to walk out and give up on everything. It is wrong to think this way, it is only your anger talking to you. You must be very careful what you will say, because, fight will go away, anger will go away, but the words you said will stay there forever.

3. After the fight, or after you snapped, you will cool down, start looking at what happened, analyze and understand that you didn’t have the right to say what you have said. You can apologize. But, you can apologize only so many times. Like you can snap only so many times. If apologies are many, they become irrelevant.

On your question – Has anybody snapped by mistake? Yes, everybody has, because, it is a mistake to do it anyway. And every time I hurt my wife even more and distanced myself even more from her. I realized that most of the times in the fight, the thing that would hurt the most was my powerlessness and the ugly face of my deeds. And that would scare me the most and produce the anger I felt. I was angry at myself and somehow, channeled it to my wife. Did this knowledge help me in any way? I don’t know? We don’t fight that much any more, but, than again, I think it is because my wife gave up on me completely.

WH 50 years
BS 48 years
Married 24 years
Son 16 years
DD 1 - 15.11.10
DD2 - 18.2.11
DD3 - 25.4.11
Desperately trying to hang in tiny space left for me. Sober since DD1, no relapses, not even close.

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