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CheaterMagnet posted 4/29/2013 16:14 PM

Well, I didn't take the condo. SAWH paid half for my car and if I were to leave it would leave him kind of screwed financially for next month. Plus, paying my half of the car left me a little iffy also.

We talked this morning. I asked him what he wanted. He doesn't seem to mind us living as roommates. I told him it was killing me and all I wanted was for him to start working a program and doing some reading about SA. IF he were to do those things, I would be willing to stay and work on us. He didn't commit, but admitted that he needs to at least go back to AA. I told him that the longer he stays away, the more his behavior deteriorates. He agreed.

I don't think he has much hope for us either. I quite frankly, have a hard time seeing any emotion out of him at all. All he will admit to is he hates to see ME so sad.

So, I am still doing in house for another month. By then my apartment should be ready and that is much cheaper than the condo and MUCH closer to work (same building).

On a side note, I had a weird epiphany this weekend. It was that in my whole life no one has EVER stood up for me. Been loyal to ME. Ever. Not even my own family. I wonder what it is about me that causes people to not want to defend me or protect me. I honestly don't think I am an awful person. My sperm donor disowned me when I was 17 and told my brother and sister that I wasn't his kid. (not true) No one fought for me. My brother and sister still had a relationship with him for YEARS. My brother even brought him to my house! I slammed the door in their faces. When my sister and I told our Grandmother that our uncle had abused us as children (we were trying to protect his young daughter) she got mad and blamed us for breaking up the family. She cut ME off for years. NOT my sister. Even though my sister was the one who told. When pigfucker cheated on me, my brothers initially took HIS side. His good Christian Mother gave them 30k to buy a house (PF and OW)! When I found out about SAWH's A I found out that he had been complaining about me to my Mom and SHE told him to divorce me!!!! She denies that of course.

I just feel so alone. I don't think I ask for much from people. I try to be a good person. I try to be honest and authentic.

I'm rambling. I'm just so tired and defeated.

Kajem posted 4/29/2013 16:21 PM

No Beating here... just hugs,


When you are done, you'll be done. Till then you're not done.

We aren't going anywhere, and will be here when you need us.

It sounds like you are doing your best to be financially responsible and not reacting emotionally to the situation. That's a good start to taking care of you as long as you pay attention to your emotional side. It sounds like you are doing just that.

We'll be here when you need us...

More hugs,


[This message edited by Kajem at 4:26 PM, April 29th (Monday)]

Pass posted 4/29/2013 16:32 PM

There's absolutely nothing wrong with you, CM. If nobody has ever stood up for you before, it's because you're surrounded by arseholes.

I don't know why they do it, but it is their issue, not yours.

Take care.

5454real posted 4/29/2013 16:57 PM

39k got your back now!

Holly-Isis posted 4/29/2013 18:16 PM

From the outside it looks like you've never been stood up for because the people in your life are incredibly broken. Well adjusted people don't say and do the things you shared here.

Focus on your healing and understanding your issues and you will begin to surround yourself with more emotionally healthy peopl- who will have your back.

CheaterMagnet posted 4/29/2013 18:49 PM

Thank you all. I know I have a fucked up family. They are so toxic I sometimes think I should own a hazmat suit for family gatherings.

However, almost 2 years ago I moved 3,000 miles away and have pretty much cut off contact with all of them. We "like" each others pictures on FB but there isn't any interaction.

Funny, my Mom worked for me for a few years. Then my sister got gravely ill and was on life support. My Mom rushed to her side. I continued to pay her her full salary for 3 months. Then she quit to take care of my sister full time (her recovery took almost a year). My Mom sold her house and had about $12,500 in cash.

A couple of months later, SAWH and I hit a financial pothole and needed a little help to keep our car from being repossessed. So, I asked my Mom for a short term loan. She said No. After I had paid her her full salary for 3 months while doing her work and mine. She couldn't help me out once. Oh, and did I mention I was still paying for her cell phone at the time!! I haven't spoken to her since. She thinks I am being vindictive. I think I am just cutting down on toxic substances. Oh, and I forgot to mention that by this time my Mom had moved in with my brother and his family. Now they are constantly strapped for cash because they don't manage their money well and they are constantly spending money they can't afford on their kids activities. So anyway, my Mom is now living with them and what do they do? They move into a new fancy house. And my niece suddenly has a shiny new red car. Where do you all think the $$ for that came from??? Oh riiiiight. The money fairy must have stopped by. But she can't help me keep my fucking car.

Anyway, all this leaves me with no family, no support system except long distance friends. They have their own issues, so I try not to whinge on about my life.

It just gets so lonely sometimes.

Thank you all. I do feel your hugs.

[This message edited by CheaterMagnet at 6:52 PM, April 29th (Monday)]

Nature_Girl posted 4/29/2013 18:51 PM


I'm making a new life for myself that includes people I can trust. Now you have that opportunity, too!

Ashland13 posted 4/29/2013 19:05 PM


I have this too.

Part of your post hit home, the word "authentic". That's me to a T and what I'm learning from the A and Perv is that it doesn't pay to be that way and do everything right.

I'm also not going to be dependent on anyone at all when I can possibly help it, for this is something that bit me, too.

I feel exactly like you do and have always been a person people stomp on. So I no longer take sh and stick up for myself, no matter who it is I'm dealing with. People don't like that but after the dust settles from a skirmish, I feel better about myself and about changing the image people had of me.

Some of your post sounds like me, you sound like a people pleaser and in that we lose ourselves...that happened to me for 20 years. I don't even know who I am now.

So I will send hugs and wish you well and agree with the post about filling our lives with different people.

I found after missing my family and then having them hurt me on a really expensive trip I just took, that sometimes being alone is safer than chancing opening ourselves up to more pain. Even in my suffering, my NPD sister competed with me and my mother argues my parenting and wishes or needs and in front of DD so that I feel I have no rights as a parent or person. They were supposed to be my moral support and were able to make panic attacks instead.

Yes, I understand what you are saying and the other part I'm told by counselors is self esteem.

I wish you luck for a better tomorrow and soem way to not let him hurt you.

I'm glad you made the decision about your car and hope the apartment will be good. I am probably facing that decision too, as we could lose the house financially and Perv is changing his tune about paying the mortgage so we can stay here.

dmari posted 4/29/2013 19:24 PM

No 2x4's necessary at all! I agree one billion percent (is there such a thing?) with what Holly-Isis said. I wanted to add that broken people unfortunately take advantage/granted of good people like you. Hugs!!!

torn2bits posted 4/29/2013 19:44 PM


We are here for you. I know how hard it is when you have to see him each day.

You are worth fighting for! Our SI family will be here for you. Please take care of YOU.

You only get one life, one time at today! Make it yours.

Grace and Flowers posted 4/29/2013 21:33 PM

I get it. I learned at a very young age that no one would ever "stand up" for me. Took me years to stop wanting them to.

You ARE worth fighting for. Once I took control of my life, I found peace. I found my power, my strength. You will, too.

fraeuken posted 4/30/2013 00:02 AM

(((Hugs)))) from down the road. Sent you a PM.

nolight posted 4/30/2013 06:19 AM

We have to do things by our own timeline, there's no judgement here take care of yourself

Holly-Isis posted 4/30/2013 07:13 AM

Even when we recognize our unhealthy backgrounds we tend to pick people who injure us in the same way over and over. Then it becomes a "life commandment".

"I am unlovable"
"I don't deserve support"
"I get abandoned"

It's not until we deal with our issues that we can fix our pickers and surround ourselves with healthier people.

Autobiography in Five Short Chapters

Chapter 1

I walk down the street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I fall in.
I am lost ... I am helpless.
It isn't my fault.
It takes forever to find a way out.

Chapter 2

I walk down the same street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I pretend I don't see it.
I fall in again.
I can't believe I am in the same place.
But it isn't my fault.
It still takes a long time to get out.

Chapter 3

I walk down the same street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I see it is there.
I still fall in ... it's a habit.
My eyes are open.
I know where I am.
It is my fault.
I get out immediately.

Chapter 4

I walk down the same street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I walk around it.

Chapter 5

I walk down another street.

~ Portia Nelson ~

(There's a Hole in My Sidewalk)

Ashland13 posted 4/30/2013 10:40 AM


It sounds like you're doing something that I and some relatives who are also divorced did in their processes.

It's been my experience after DDay that I question not only things he did but the world and everything about future, but also my past, present and all the people in it.

Nothing gets by me without being questioned and I don't reply to anything someone says without turning it over a few times. Prior to the A I was a little bit automatic. Not that I took things for granted, but it seems like we see and react to life in different ways afterward.

This experience is causing me to question everything about my life.

I was reading again your post and thinking that sure, the longer he stays away, the longer he may not be concentrating on you and R but other things and it seems logical that it would change how he behaves.

Jada52 posted 4/30/2013 11:39 AM

We are basically roommates as well. It is breaking my heart to go to bed alone knowing he is in the guest room.

((((hugs)))) to you.

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