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how2forgive posted 5/2/2013 10:10 AM

Dday was 5 months ago. We've been in counseling, we've been spending time together. I believe he has kept his word about no contact till last week. When dday happened he gave me his phone and I texted the OW to not contact us again, we changed our numbers and it has been hard but we have been getting better day by day. OWs "sister" found his new number and called sometime last week. She called to give him an update on OW. Why? Because OW has non-hodgkin's lymphoma and she thought he should know she was ill. So now I'm drowning in rage again. I don't care if she dies-I am disgusted with myself for being able to say that. That I could actually say-I don't care if another person dies says just how far they have pushed me. I don't know myself anymore. I think the sister is manipulating him and he doesn't see it. He said he wanted to get updates on the OWs condition. I said no-I see this all starting back up again with just one phone call. So by the end of an awful day-crying and feeling betrayed and rejected he said I was right. He would do what I asked and not have contact-he just wants to be contacted if she dies. I looked it up- non-Hodgkin's is also known as aids related-lymphoma the OW was a prostitute. He says it started as pay for play and then he fell in love with her! He says it's over but he still cares about her. I got HIV tested-I'm fine and not fine. No infection but wondering how he can be worried over her condition and not consider what it could mean for my health or even his own. He says he loves me, that he told her he would never leave me. So confused - I don't know if I believe in my marriage anymore. I wonder if he ever really loved me. I wonder why I still love him.

KeepCalm_CarryOn posted 5/2/2013 10:37 AM

Honestly? Don't feel bad. I wouldn't. More importantly, I'm not sure I'd believe this. It's not beyond an OW to claim cancer or pregnancy or whatever else may get some attention. I would demand he maintain NC.

NeverAgain2013 posted 5/2/2013 10:41 AM

Um, ok... how the hell did OW's "sister" just happen to 'find' your husband's NEW phone number???

I seriously have my doubts that these two stopped all contact. As it usually happens, the clear majority DON'T go no contact - they simply get a whole lot sneakier after a D-Day.

Is OW's "sister" a telephone operator for your cell phone carrier, or does she work for the CIA? Because I don't know any other way she'd be able to magically "find" your husband's new cell phone number unless he shared it with her and the OW.

I don't blame you one BIT for feeling completely betrayed yet again with this latest nonsense. I don't wish death on anyone, but when you're a prostitute, you know DAMNED well that you're playing Russian Roulette with your life and this prostitute happened to get the chamber with the bullet in it. I'd be absolutely petrified to touch your husband knowing he was carrying on with this diseased woman. Ugh. And I agree with you - how dare he play Russian Roulette with YOUR sexual health? Just more of the rotten betrayal these cheaters visit on innocent people.

You didn't deserve this utterly CRAPPY hand that he chose to deal you. I'm so sorry you find yourself here. Be good to yourself.


[This message edited by NeverAgain2013 at 10:43 AM, May 2nd (Thursday)]

mchercheur posted 5/2/2013 10:43 AM

Welcome to SI, how2forgive. I am so sorry you find yourself here, but if you are going thru this trauma, this site will be a big comfort to you.

First of all:

I don't care if she dies-I am disgusted with myself for being able to say that.

I would bet that 99.999% of us BSs feel the exact same way. Matter of fact, if I heard that the OW in my sitch had cancer, I would buy a bottle of champagne. However,on this site, they say that the goal is to get to a point where you don't care what happens to the OP. I am a long way from getting to that point, & I am 2 yrs out.
What you are feeling is normal. OW & your WH have taken a knife & stabbed you in the stomach. Why wouldn't you want her to feel as much pain as she caused you?

Next:

I think the sister is manipulating him and he doesn't see it.

The sister, or OW herself, going thru the sister. IOW, she's fishing.

He said he wanted to get updates on the OWs condition.
....
he just wants to be contacted if she dies..... He says it's over but he still cares about her

Why? Has your WH ended it in his mind or not?
To me, these are big red flags.
Sorry to say this, but to me it sounds like he may have stopped contact with her, but still feels "connected" to her in his mind. Sounds like he still has one foot in each relationship.
He had better make a choice right now, you or OW. Loving wife or disease-infected low life whore.

Lay out your boundaries, put them in writing if you have to.
Focus on taking care of yourself.
Sending you strength & hugs.

[This message edited by mchercheur at 10:48 AM, May 2nd (Thursday)]

LivingALie posted 5/2/2013 10:44 AM

We’ve heard this story before on here – OW has cancer. If the OW is past child-bearing age –that’s usually the line they’ll pull. The OW in my situation suddenly developed colon cancer when she found out I was having a hysterectomy. Wow- what a coincidence. She needed some attention. Well, turns out she never did have cancer. So – believe me, they will stoop to anything.

And I understand how upset you are over your H’s reaction. I was beyond livid when my H was upset about OW having pretend cancer – I said and meant all those awful things too – hoped she lingered good and long – but yes, he admitted to being upset about it.

I don’t have any advice for you – just want you to know you’re not alone.

TrustGone posted 5/2/2013 11:06 AM

OW will use anything and everything to get the WS to break no contact and feel sorry for them. WH#2's slut also texted him amd said she had cancer and needed to borrow some money for chemo treatments. She never had cancer, don't know if it was him lying about the text or her. It didn't really matter either way becuase I knew it was a lie. She is pathetic, just like your WH's slut. Just like I told WH#2 last week, there is a special place in hell for people that intentionally bring this kind of hurt on their spouses and the AP is a sick, selfish, crazy individual for getting involved in a relationship with a married person. In the end it does nothing but cause pain to everyone involved.

Don't believe anything he tells you at this point. I agree that they can't get his # unless he has called them at some point. I am here with you hoping that she does have cancer, losses all her hair, and develops big bed sores before she dies an angonzing death. Now that would be Karma in my book. (((HUGS))))

FieldsOfLavender posted 5/2/2013 11:09 AM

I would NOT care if the OW died. I would enjoy if the OW died a slow painful death.

NeverAgain2013 posted 5/2/2013 11:22 AM

I recall telling my now ex that I hoped his fat, ignorant tramp died a slow, painful, agonizing death by fire ants.

Yeah, I'm a bitch like that.

PeaceLove187 posted 5/2/2013 11:24 AM

If it makes you feel better, I'm a born and bred peace-and-love kind of gal. Heck, it's in my name! But my H's AP had cancer as well and if she wants to go ahead and die from it, that's just fine with me.

Peace.

mchercheur posted 5/2/2013 11:28 AM

Hope the cancer spreads to her clitoris.

rcantbleveit posted 5/2/2013 11:33 AM

Wow.... I can't imagine anyone pretending to have cancer! As devastated as I was over the affair & divorce, I couldn't ever wish cancer on OW or anyone else.

I was diagnosed last year, had surgery & about to have a second surgery. Since I haven't had to do chemo or radiation (Praise God), OW has implied to X that I'm faking it just to get attention or to get him back. X has even questioned my son as to rather or not I have it and I think my son even questions it sometimes because I'm not consumed with worry. The surgery was delayed twice due to the Surgeon having an emergency surgery and the next time, he was out with the flu.

This has added to their suspicions but I can promise this..... Faking Cancer is nothing to play with!

Darkonius posted 5/2/2013 11:39 AM

I would bet that 99.999% of us BSs feel the exact same way. Matter of fact, if I heard that the OW in my sitch had cancer, I would buy a bottle of champagne.

I'll drink to that!!

sunshine226 posted 5/2/2013 11:55 AM

curious as to how sister got his number, perhaps she fished around and got it that way, it is possible

An ex of my WH called our place one time and this was over 20 years ago so she didnt get the number online. The phone was in my name and i am pretty sure she didnt know my last name.

One evening she called our apartment, he doesnt know how she got the number. I will always say WH's sister in law (who was friends with her) gave it to her. This the same sil that has added OW as a friend on FB, her husband (wh's brother) added OW a year ago

So dont assume your WH is still in contact just because OW sister contacted him, they have their ways.

And as for OW having cancer, that is not your husbands concern, he didnt give it to her. OW is just trying to reach out and get him to come back to her. DONT FALL FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

emmawa posted 5/2/2013 12:00 PM

2 years out. Never did meet ow/ one night stand whore. Don't even know her last name. But if I did find out her health was suffering I would blame it on the toxic person she is. I would not care one iota. She did not care about my children or me and she knew. I would be right there beside the many others in breaking out the bubbly. Yes they have pushed us that far! Don't feel bad. She downright does not deserve the space in your head or sympathy. Don't let your wh contact her. She is just trying to fish IMO.

stretch13 posted 5/2/2013 12:14 PM

your feelings on OW and how it makes you see yourself?

I would bet that 99.999% of us BSs feel the exact same way.

yep. the closest thing i have to a religion is believing that Love is our imperative. Love the good, the bad, ourselves. do everything from a place of deep Love and you'll probably be a positive force in the world.

after dday, i heard about an ethiopian airlines plane that went down with no survivors right around the time the OW and OC were flying to her native country, ethiopia. i didn't recognize myself. i was seriously hoping they were both on it.

it's ok. and i am largely back to my Loving self again. don't judge yourself.

Hope the cancer spreads to her clitoris.


it's ok to laugh. it's good to laugh. even mean laughter right now is cathartic. you won't always feel so dark. again, don't judge yourself. laugh at yourself (or her) instead.

(((((how2forgive)))))

BaldwinBeauty59 posted 5/2/2013 12:34 PM


I would bet that 99.999% of us BSs feel the exact same way. Matter of fact, if I heard that the OW in my sitch had cancer, I would buy a bottle of champagne.

I'll drink to that!!

Me three!!!!

Holly-Isis posted 5/2/2013 12:58 PM

Not caring if she dies is where you both should want to be actually. It's not a bad thing.

Imagine leaving your house, driving down the street, take the first left, a right, another random right...a left...then pick the first house you see with a blue car parked in front of it.

That person...his or her life means nothing to you. If you heard through the grapevine of a death, there would be a sadness for a moment. Mostly for the loved ones left behind. But when it comes down to it, besides being a fellow human that person would mean nearly nothing to you.

So should OW. As long as your WH shows concern for her then he's showing a callous disregard for you and the pain he brings you by holding onto affections for the person who helped cause you anguish and betrayal.

FWIW, I agree with you- this might be them trying to get attention. OW have lied like this before.

ETA- yeah. If either xOw in my sitch got very sick or died, a small part of me would feel better. I know I shouldn't..but there it is.

[This message edited by Holly-Isis at 1:04 PM, May 2nd (Thursday)]

Safeguard posted 5/2/2013 12:59 PM

My *Hinkey Meter* is going crazy. OW should be *dead*, to HIM already! What if it were three, five or ten yrs out? Would he still need updates about the state of her health?

Also, ow didn't care about your health and well being. I would have a hard time feeling bad about her health, if I were in your place. Not very generous perhaps, but a very human response...

Its Better Now? posted 5/2/2013 13:27 PM

I totally agree with Safeguard's *Hinkey Meter* theory. And my I also confess: If WW's AP were to contract and die from cancer or any other disease process.... what I would leave on his grave would in no way qualify for flowers....

Vulcanized posted 5/2/2013 13:27 PM

OWs "sister" found his new number and called sometime last week. She called to give him an update on OW. Why? Because OW has non-hodgkin's lymphoma and she thought he should know she was ill.

Find it tough to believe that OW's sis went thru the trouble of finding your WH's #. IF A is over, then the state of OW's health is non-issue.

He said he wanted to get updates on the OWs condition.

NC = NC.

He says it's over but he still cares about her.
In lurve with a hooker? Yikes. Is this the only A he has had?

Also, I agree with others who have said that this may all be a fishing expedition.

((how))

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