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It's all so, so sad.

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 Stronger4it (original poster member #39372) posted at 10:31 PM on Tuesday, May 28th, 2013

I am more than 6 months since D day, but I thought since this is my first post I will start here. Maybe I will mosey on over to the reconciliation page after. Maybe the separation page. We’ll see.

I’ve been with my partner for 18 years (not married, never saw the need). We have a 9 yr old daughter. I stay at home, he works out side the home.

About 3 yrs ago he inadvertently shared some inappropriate texts/ pictures (naked ones) with me that a friend of mine had sent him. He thought it was fine because she was “out there” and living a different “lifestyle”. I reminded him that we were not living that “lifestyle” and he ought not to encourage this from her. I checked his phone a few days later and discovered some (a lot ) of very flirtatious text from a co worker. Big fight/screaming match (not in our nature) landed us in a couples counseling session. Nice lady, very smart, we all agreed that while what he did was naughty and inappropriate, we did in fact have a solid and loving relationship. She said that if one was to start another relationship exit the first one. Also that she thought that our relationship would be fine and OK but we might want to follow up in a few weeks. We never did.

Our relationship was very good that summer. I began to be more assertive about what my needs were. I went away to surf camp on my own. We had a romantic, child free vacation for 5 days in September. Our sex life was reignited. Not that it was dormant, but it was sleepy.

We began to renovate our home (extensively and expensively). I began to work part time and things began to get rocky at home. He was angry a lot of the time and uncharacteristically mean. I told myself when his schedule lets up, or when his back feels better, or when this renovation is over, things will get better. Well they did not. For two years, he was, what I thought was depressed. When he had weeks off from work, nothing changed. His back improved, still angry. The family vacation was a disaster. I felt like a bothersome nanny; there to look after the kid while he did what he wanted.

At the end of last summer we entered MC again. We established that he was deeply unhappy with his life. His Job. He thought his life would be bigger. Also that my happiness should not be so tethered to his state of mind. Fair enough. We did 4 or 5 sessions like this.

He left his email up one day and I poked around. I found one of those pictures you take of someone you really like. She is looking away, but smiling. I also found a picture of his d*ck. I know it was his because I recognized it from previous encounters and also because in the background were some new throw cushions I had recently purchased. Who takes a picture of something they can see any time? Who was he sending this to? Not me.

So a little private investigative work and I discovered that this was the same woman (28 yrs old) that he was flirting with 2 and a half years earlier. She has an impressive online presence, so it was not difficult to find out where she worked. I wandered by one day (I do have a spidey sense) and noticed our family mini van parked out front.

Now this is where I think, “there is no way”. Absolutely no way he could be having an affair. Denial? Yup. I waited for 20 minutes a few doors down from the restaurant. When they came out, they did not notice me at first. I was sitting on a bench. When he noticed me and said something to her, and she just turned around and walked the other direction. If it was a friendly lunch, why would she do that? Please tell me it is just a flirtation. Please tell me it only got physical once, and you were having lunch to break it off. Not my lucky day. They have been sleeping together since I was in surf camp. FML.

A lot of those early days are fuzzy. A delirium set in caused by not eating, and a combination of some friends plying me with chamomile tea which made me lethargic, and other friends (better ones) plying me with scotch. A lot, and I mean a lot of weeping and wailing.

What I do know is this. I wish I had found this site earlier. I really needed to hear stories about other people and how they felt and managed. And how it all turned out in the end. Every situation is so different and if I could cobble together a situation like mine I could make sense of the fu#*king mess that my life had become.

I still stay at home and enjoy a very close an stable relationship with DD. I walked through Christmas like a zombie adopting the credo “fake it until you make it”. It could’ve been the last christmas she fully believes in santa, and I’m not going to wreck it with “Pass the cranberry sauce, Daddy is going to live somewhere else”.

I know I need to forgive, for me. And I’m not sure how, or what that looks like. I do know that how he is behaving, that we are not in reconciliation; rug sweeping and him try to get me to own his sh*t. This I learned here.

I still cry from the loss of it all. 6 months later. I can’t hear the the word family without welling up. But these are sweeter, sadder cries than in the beginning. A release. Not like the gut wrenching cries I subjected my fiends to last winter. The grief over the loss of it all is something I am learning to live with. And it is something that I am learning to let go of. I don’t like the sad turn of my mouth when I catch a reflection in a window. I try to at least grin or smirk, and weirdly my day goes better. I do not want my despair face to be my default face. I don’t want my daughter to ask me what’s wrong.

There is more. He is moving out in 2 weeks. But perhaps I have shared enough for now.

Thank you.

I’ll be back.

Me BS 46
Him WS 48
Together 18 yrs
Daughter 9
DD Nov 13/12
Today ?

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hatefulnow ( member #35603) posted at 10:35 PM on Tuesday, May 28th, 2013

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Conflicted1 ( member #39019) posted at 10:42 PM on Tuesday, May 28th, 2013

Stronger4it. I am so sorry you find yourself here but so glad you found the community. It is certainly a sanity saver. We are all walking wounded here and so understand your pain. Welcome and I hope you find comfort here.

Honesty is a very expensive gift. Don't expect it from cheap people.

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1Faith ( member #38975) posted at 11:10 PM on Tuesday, May 28th, 2013

Oh Stronger

So so sorry for your pain and hurt.

This is a club no one wanted to join yet here we all are.

You are right that we can piece meal our stories from those of others and it is still unique to our own relationships, journey and pain.

My hope for you is truth, honesty, and faith. Faith in your name - that although this is horrible - you WILL be stronger for it.

I promise you this ... You will make it through and you will be okay. Maybe not today or even this year but in the end you will be.

You say he is moving out? Does that mean he is still in the A? Any remorse?

Be strong for yourself and your beautiful daughter. Have you tried IC? It can be helpful for you to understand and put a plan in place to get YOU back.

So sorry. We are all here. Keep moving and be kind to yourself.

Sometimes my life feels like a test I didn't study for

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 Stronger4it (original poster member #39372) posted at 3:48 PM on Wednesday, May 29th, 2013

I have seen a bit of remorse. Occasionally. I think I need to hear him say sorry everyday until I believe it. Mostly I hear “monogamy is not natural” and other justifications for his affair. Rewriting our history.

He has, for years, been very secretive about his phone and email accounts. Both of us being independent sorts, I let this go. This was a massive red flag that I let go. When I found out about the affair, he ended it pretty quickly. And he let me see his phone, but only when he was there, and could see what I was looking at. The phone was sanitized daily. No calls or messages from anyone but me. Ha. So what’s the point of even looking.

Over time, through my conversations with him, and her, I found out the depth of their relationship. While I do believe the physical part of their relationship is over, they have remained in contact. Texting, phone calls, various social media sites and we caught him parked outside her work. “Just walking down memory lane” - Right. Seems like once a week I would catch a breach of the NC. His walls went back up. (pass code on his phone and changed the email password) These walls protect his relationship with her from me. I wish he would help me build walls to protect our relationship from outsiders.

So we are in a very bad place. Arguments have escalated. And at the end of the day, we want different things. He wants to be able to sleep with other women. But he does concede that “it won’t be unilateral”. So I can sleep with other men? Yup.

Great. Now what does that look like? It will have to be equal and symmetrical. Meaning we both have outside partners, at the same time, and are having the same amount of sex, and the same amount of romantic attachment. He has Tuesdays and Fridays, and I have Wednesday’s and Saturday. It’s not controllable. It’s not quantifiable. It’s not doable.

So he is going. Because he has resurrected his walls. I have erected my own. I’m letting go of the hope that things will work out for us. I’m sad to be doing this, but when I have hope, I keep getting kicked in the balls. And it hurts.

Me BS 46
Him WS 48
Together 18 yrs
Daughter 9
DD Nov 13/12
Today ?

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Getting to Happy ( member #35200) posted at 8:28 PM on Wednesday, May 29th, 2013

It is so sad.

I am so sorry that you had to find this website. But the folks here are caring and smart. A nice community.

I really remember the denial...please don't let this be my reality. PLEASE!

But alas, the nightmare is real.

And this:

I don’t like the sad turn of my mouth when I catch a reflection in a window. I try to at least grin or smirk, and weirdly my day goes better. I do not want my despair face to be my default face.

This really triggered me! I totally get this^^^!

I have to admit that I am very vain . So having a sad face for my default face in repose was not going to work for me! LOL!!!

Sorry, I know its not funny. I just wanted you to know that we have all been down the road you are embarking on.

We get it and we are listening.

Sending you and your sweet baby girl peace and light.

WS him
BS me DD's 26, 25' DS 23
dd1 1-1-10, dd2 Mothers Day 2011, dd3 3-12-12 Hawaii trip with ho-worker...

Never forget what is worth remembering or remember what is best forgotten.
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