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FightingBack posted 6/21/2013 10:16 AM

After dday, I had a full screaning for STDs (as was wisely advised here on SI)

I tested positive for Genital Herpes. I have never had an outbreak. WH was very embarrassed and "sorry". He had previously admitted that no protection was ever used. He never considered any health risks.

I had a conversation with MOW and told her of the results. She just shook her head and said. "I did mention that maybe I shouldn't be doing this because of all the sores in my mouth, but he said, 'It's OK, don't worry about it' ".

Then, WH was also tested and his results all came back negative.

How is this possible? Now I realize that I could have contacted this before I met WH. Because I was married previously to WH#1, but if so, why wouldn't I have passed this on to WH#2?

I've been trying to find out how this is possible, but no luck.

My doctor said that the test results show that I have been "exposed" to genital herpes. Is that not the same as having it?

I really hope someone can shed some light here. Thanks

[This message edited by FightingBack at 10:17 AM, June 21st (Friday)]

doesitgetbetter posted 6/21/2013 10:38 AM

My H gave me herpes during his A's as well. H has never had an outbreak, and his test results are on the low side while mine are definitely positive. Seems as though H has some sort of tolerance or immunity to herpes that I don't or something, I don't know. All that I do know is that I get outbreaks and he has never had one.

And curse those selfish SOB's who are knowingly exposing us to these hideous things, and not caring. Ugh!

JanaGreen posted 6/21/2013 12:26 PM

I got tested after H's ONS - he had not touched me between the time of the ONS and the time of my test. I was positive for herpes. I do believe him that he had never cheated on me before that (in 2010) and we were married in 2003. He was positive as well. Apparently we've both had it for ten years now, at least, and neither of us has ever had an outbreak. It happens. My doctor said lots of people have it and don't even know.

FightingBack posted 6/21/2013 12:33 PM

Thanks for the replies.

So, if I am one of those people who have had it for years and not know it, why didn't WH test positive also? Is it because it can only be transmitted during an outbreak?

I've never had an outbreak, therefore not transmitted it?

JanaGreen posted 6/21/2013 12:39 PM

I'm getting out of my depth here, but I think there's something called asymptomatic shedding, which means it CAN be transmitted when there's no outbreak.

tushnurse posted 6/21/2013 13:31 PM

Many people can be exposed to it and transfer it without actually picking up the virus. Kind of like when the whole house gets the flu but one person stays well even though they have been exposed. It may also depend on the method of test for H. If it was not through blood work and just a swab, that can explain it too. Unfortunately many Drs do not perform male swabs with proper technique. I would find this out before being certain that he is negative.

Herpes is epidemic in the US. oral and genital are spread constantly they are more commonly referred to as type 1 and type 2. Type 2 being genital. Here's the kicker. You can have type 1 on your genitalia an type 2 in your mouth. Type 2 is usually tougher to get rid of, and requires stronger meds.

Hope I answered your question.

purplejacket4 posted 6/21/2013 14:15 PM

I agree with TN. What kind of testing did WH have? If there are no symptoms a swab does nothing. Herpes often is checked for by doing serology. That means looking for the antibodies to the virus.

If your wondering if you've had it and why WS is negative (if it is serology) it may be because he has never had a good exposure. You would have to have your own immune system tired and rundown to shed the virus. Then he'd have to be run down to be susceptible to the virus. People with good immune systems can go a long time without passing it.

pewpewpew posted 6/21/2013 14:34 PM

May I ask those that do have the virus:
What does it look like? And when you have an outbreak, how long does it last?

doesitgetbetter posted 6/21/2013 15:14 PM

I have a rare form of it where it's on my face around my nose. Not my mouth, not my genitals, just on my face.

It starts out where my nose looks red, like I've had a cold or something. Then I start to get little bumps that look like tiny pimples, but they are full of clear fluid like a blister. I won't call it a scab, but it eventually starts to get a dry hard skin on top of it that often flakes off leaving more red skin under it.

I've had some outbreaks last for only a couple of weeks, but I've also had an outbreak last for literally 8 months. I don't have them very often, sometimes 2 years between an outbreak, and I don't have insurance so I can't take meds all the time to try to limit the few outbreaks I do have. It's incredibly sore and painful, and hideous to look at. I just tell people that I've had a cold for a few weeks and my nose runs so I have to blow it all the time and that's why it looks like that. It's so embarrassing.

FightingBack posted 6/21/2013 15:34 PM

Thanks for the replies.

OK, so we both were tested by blood work. So, if I understand correctly, WH being negative, means that he could not have passed it on to me.

That would imply then, that I have been carrying it for years, but never passed it on (shedding) due to both our immune systems being strong.

Am I correct? Or could he have contracted it, passed it on, and still test negative?

tryingmybest2011 posted 6/21/2013 15:34 PM

T/J

doesitgetbetter, are you sure that's not perioral dermatitis? That's what it sounds like. I get that if I use rich lotions or serums on my face...and sometimes it does take a while to clear.

tryingmybest2011 posted 6/21/2013 16:02 PM

FB, depending on when you both had the blood test done, false-negatives are possible. Sometimes it takes a while to show up in detectable levels.

How long after his last encounter were you two tested?

And yes, it's possible you were exposed years ago. Many people are and never experience or notice an outbreak.

FightingBack posted 6/21/2013 19:31 PM

My tests were done in January 2012.

His were more recent in April 2013.

I don't get it. If I am the carrier, why doesn't he test positive?

Jospehine85 posted 6/21/2013 20:07 PM

It is less likely for a woman to give men Herpes than it is for a man to give a woman herpes. 1 in 5 women have Herpes 2. 1 in 9 men have Herpes 2.

If you add on top of that the fact you haven't had an outbreak, then it is very plausible you have never given your WH Herpes 2.

I would have your screen repeated though. Some types of assays that can be used can give a false positive for Herpes 2. Plus labs make mistakes.

I have tested positive for antinuclear antibodies every 3-6 months for the last 25 years. Last month the lab claimed I tested negative, while all my other antibodies (Ro, La, etc) were off the charts. My rheumatologist and I had a good laugh.

I also once tested positive for Hep C. We freaked out, I was retested. Twice. Both negative. Lab error. I have since been retested 4 more times. All negative.

Did your doctor specify that you tested positive for Herpes 2 vs Herpes 1?

FightingBack posted 6/21/2013 23:21 PM

Yes Josephine, Herpes 2.

I still don't quite understand how in 27 years of marriage, I never passed this on to him.

I will ask for another test next time I see my doctor though.

Jospehine85 posted 6/24/2013 11:40 AM

FightingBack,

Have you ever had cold sores on your mouth? Because if you have, those could be the Herpes 2 that you tested positive for.

Oral herpes can be either 1 or 2. You can get it from sharing a glass with someone or kissing.

My understanding is that if you have oral herpes 2 you can not get genital herpes 2 because you already have the antibodies and can not be reinfected.

confused615 posted 6/24/2013 11:48 AM

Are you sure his results were negative? Did you see the results from the doctor..or did he tell you?

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