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trebleclef posted 7/3/2013 02:49 AM

I just spoke to our mediator today. She is firing us. XWH has not yet taken any action or met any deadlines that he agreed to.

Got this from him today:

XWH:
I have issued a cheque for the “B” property taxes at $1464.66. Tomorrow you can let me know what method you wish to submit your portion of that at $ 732.33.

TC:
The B property is in your name.
We have both agreed in mediation that the B property is yours.
The divorce has been granted.

I would like to understand your reasons for thinking I should be perpetually responsible for your bills. At what point does that end if not now?

XWH:
There has been discussion about all the matramonial items but to my knowledge nothing has been finallized unless you acually know something I do not

TC:
Item 4 under "Division of Property" in the most recent Mediated Report Agreement sent to you by our mediator states:

"Other Real Estate/Properties – Lot 1B, Lot 37S, and Lots 24S and 25S will remain with XWH."

Are you saying that you now disagree with this? If so, why did you not contact the mediator as instructed with your concerns and corrections?
It is my understanding that as items are agreed upon, they are added to the report. It is not some 'big final agreement thing' that happens when every last detail is worked out. They are added to the agreement in a cumulative manner AS they are worked out.

As I’ve indicated, the INTERIM Separation Agreement we had in which I was footing the bill for half of your expenses, was never intended as a long-term perpetual plan, it was stop-gap means of dealing with imminent issues. I have tried faithfully to keep my end of that agreement for nearly two years now, far longer than I ever anticipated. The "interim" is over and the elements of that agreement are now being replaced. That is the point of working with the mediator.

It never ceases to amaze me that so far "agreements" only appear to pertain to TC and not XWH.

I will no longer be contributing to the maintenance of property B.
TC

And of course...... I'm the one "reneging on my agreement".

Yep, I am. And its a little scary and a lot hard because Ive spent 43 years doing things out of fear of his reaction. Gotta get my big girl panties on now and head to a crackerjack lawyer and quit worrying about whether he's mad, cuz hes gonna be.

[This message edited by trebleclef at 2:51 AM, July 3rd (Wednesday)]

Threnody posted 7/3/2013 08:50 AM

He's a schemer. You already know this. His being angry is simply proof (IMO) that you're on the right path away from his manipulations and financial slight-of-hand tricks.

I'm sorry mediation failed, but I think you knew this was a very real possibility with him. He's always been a tug-of-war player, from what I recall of your posts.

You know what drives that type of person batshit and puts you in charge?

Dropping the rope.

Drop it. Greenlight your lawyer to make arrangements, up to and including covering the appropriate fees because STBX was not earnest in mediation.

You're no longer involved. He just shot himself in the foot. And wallet.

Idjut.

devistatedmom posted 7/3/2013 09:30 AM

Yep yep. Threnody is right. Ignore the idiot and file the papers. Today. Let him figure it out on his own. Ass

trebleclef posted 7/3/2013 12:50 PM

Oh yeah. Just discovers this morning that we are overdrawn on our mutual account AGAIN because XWH has not put our rent $ from rooms we let or his portion of the mutual payments in. again. For the zillionth time. And I put an extra $300 in yesterday just in case, AND I can't take out MY rent because there's no funds. Again.
I would think this might be payback for me refusing to pay the tax bill, but it's not the first time. Or the twentieth. I WISH I could just walk away - but it's my name too on the mortgage.

Phoenix1 posted 7/3/2013 14:10 PM

And of course...... I'm the one "reneging on my agreement".

Yep, I am. And its a little scary and a lot hard because Ive spent 43 years doing things out of fear of his reaction.

I thought I was reading about me and my POS! For years I just capitulated to keep the peace. When POS walked out I stopped paying the credit card bills that were in his name. He was furious because "we had agreed I would continue to cover the payments" or some such rot. A, yeah, shitbag that was before I caught you red-handed at OW#3's house and you took off like a coward. Did I renege? You betcha! I KNEW he would be pissed, and he was, but I told him all agreements became null and void upon me finding out about newest affair and subsequent desertion of the family!

It never ceases to amaze me how these fucksticks really believe that agreements (or wedding vows) only work one way, never both ways, then get angry when they get called out!

Keep walking in those bitch boots!

gonnabe2016 posted 7/3/2013 14:30 PM

TC....you might want to run this one by your L.

trebleclef posted 7/3/2013 15:42 PM

Have to find myself a new lawyer first gonna, the old one was a clone of WH. On the Search today.

justabrokendream posted 7/3/2013 16:07 PM

I may get flamed but never saw the point of mediation for the most part. Divorcing means pretty much that you can't get along anymore - in mediation there needs to be some kind of "meeting of the minds." This to me is a recipe for failure but I'm sure the lawyers like it.

trebleclef posted 7/3/2013 16:43 PM

Have to find myself a new lawyer first gonna, the old one was a clone of WH. On the Search today.

.......wow! Just made a call and the lawyer in question passed away yesterday! How weird is that?!

Threnody posted 7/3/2013 17:25 PM

That, my dear, is a sign.

Err'body, move out of the way. trebleclef is coming through!

Sad in AZ posted 7/3/2013 19:33 PM

justabrokendream--no flames, but I had a mediated D and it worked just fine. But, you see, we didn't get D because we couldn't get along; we got D because I didn't like his girlfriend

Ashland13 posted 7/3/2013 20:59 PM

Yes, totally agree.

We are also going through "mediation" and things like you describe are happening there.

The narcissism is rearing its ugly head in massive ways. Now, STBX and his lawyer are telling us different things with any subject that comes up. But with STBX, I find that consistent with other people still in both of our lives. None of his words match another.

He lied on some of the financial things, too and has messed up some of our bills and his credit is bad now.

They are trying to include me in debt and future debt, too, and I am SAHM-for over 10 years! I'm also not predicted to work for several years (baby coming), so I'm not sure how they think I could pay these bills.

I wish you well and hope you will get to separate more of your stuff and begin the journey of repair.

I'm sorry for your frustration, TC.

We've had mediation fail and it was a 4 hour meeting we both had to shell out money for.