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User Topic: Apathy
TXwifemom
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Member # 37945
Default  Posted: 10:14 AM, July 14th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I am 9 months out from dday. He is doing mostly everything right.

There are a few things I am needing some help on from you guys here..... (WS welcome to respond, also).

I feel nothing anymore when it comes to my WS. The hate is decreasing, which is helpful. I don't do very well with feeling so much anger all of the time. When out four year old daughter came up to me and asked me if I was going to be angry with daddy today, it was a bit of a wake up call.

We had the typical HB crap, which passed quickly. I have tried to be as polite as I can be to him, but I still talk about my feelings, so it's not all unicorns. His affairs were (supposedly) sex only with women on Craigslist. One girl was a 21 year old, they had six "s and m" sessions where he was the Dom. You have to know my husband to know how strange that is. He says he had his affairs (the first when I was pregnant with our two year old son) to "get control" because he felt his entire life was spiraling out of control (his phrase, not mine). He is a 43 y/o stay at home dad. He had a housekeeper, a sports car, everything. I did everything he wanted. After his affairs he signed a post nupt, guaranteeing no alimony if/when we divorce. Otherwise, I was absolutely going to divorce him. He could always remarry/ court me again if he wanted.....

I previously viewed his affairs and our resulting reconciliation as an opportunity for my renaissance. A chance to relearn who I am. A chance to do some things just for me. I took a job I never would have taken before, teaching in Texas. I go out by myself more.

But here is what's wrong. I just feel this strong dissociation from him. I feel so much apathy. It truly is like that scene from the Princess Bride, where the dread pirate Roberts tells Wesley, "sleep well, I'll most likely kill you in the morning". I feel like I'm saying I will most likely leave him in the morning. Yet here I sit, feeling apathetic about what is happening.

I went on antidepressants for a while, then stopped them because although they have helped me in the past, they aren't helping here. It's not depression. It is an existential crisis.

My marriage means nothing. He threw me under the bus because he was uncomfortable. Drugs will not make that better. He is doing everything he can, everything right.

But I am still hollow. I think this is just my way of withdrawing to not get hurt. Perhaps also withdrawing to try to hurt him (apathy has always bothered him the most, so I am aware maybe that's why I feel this way too). But who cares how it affects him. Because the reality is that I was not worth a moment of thought, a moment of introspection that maybe he shouldn't do this (have the affairs). Hell, if he told me he had loved them, I would almost feel relief. Because right now I feel like my life got bombed because he felt "uncomfortable" so he fucked a 21 y/o skank (among others). And my life wasn't worth a moment of thought. A moment of thought.......

I can sit here and tell myself that it's all about him, etc. but here's the thing.... I'm staying with someone that didn't feel like I was worth a moment of thought. Maybe it's different now. But I was so damned clueless, I never saw my lack of value to him. So here I am. Numb.

Is this a stage? Is this a sign we are doomed? I'm not ready to see an IC yet. And frankly, I'm having a hard time installing some sense of angst over this numbness. I actually think, oh well, maybe I will divorce him in the morning (princess bride style). Let him feel the insecurity I've felt for three years now while he was screwing around.

But I really feel like my heart has been numbed in ice water when it comes to him. I just cannot instill any emotions here. I'm not angry, I think I'm past that. I briefly felt disgust, but that's gone. I'm just....here......empty...... Hoping for some feeling. Like a paraplegic while her lover is working hard to get her to feel something, but it's just numb.

Will this go away? I'm not ready to divorce yet. I love my kids (ages 2 and 4), and we can peacefully coexist. I even love him I think.

I think this is how WS feel while they are having the affairs..... Or at least I think this is how he felt when he had his affairs....... Numb..... I would love to feel something, anything. But it's just not in me. Crickets....

I guess I 180d myself away? I didn't even try to 180. I didn't need to. He came around pretty fast (four months), but I was absolutely ready to amputate his dead weight from dday. Got my post nupt within a couple months (fast for attorneys!)

How do I try to reconnect with him? Should I just let myself go through the numbness, not that I have other options? Thoughts?


Posts: 231 | Registered: Dec 2012 | From: texas
hardtimesinlife
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Default  Posted: 10:28 AM, July 14th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Sounds like the plain of lethal flatness. I've put a link below.

http://www.survivinginfidelity.com/healing_library/reconciliation/lethal_flatness.asp

When I hit it I just sat back and enjoyed the nothingness. It was a relief.

Is it possible that his remorse didn't equal your pain? It almost sounds like that is what you are feeling. I felt that way, I mean how could he cause all this pain for me then minimize the reasons he used to justify it? Did I mean so little to him that he could destroy me for such a stupid reason?


Ddays 2004 & 2007
I cut my losses mid 2013
Feeling happier every day :)

Posts: 6182 | Registered: Apr 2006 | From: Florida
TXwifemom
♀ 37945
Member # 37945
Default  Posted: 10:40 AM, July 14th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Did I mean so little he could destroy me for such a stupid reason??

EXACTLY.


How do you show remorse to the ant hill you just poisoned? You can cry, be sorry, etc. but it doesn't fix the destruction. He is doing what a person who is capable of what he did, can do. It is like asking Hitler to apologize. He may feel it, he may truly be sorry, but hell, it's still Hitler, and his sense of empathy is fucked, so is it real? How could he do it in the first place? Is it just PPP? (Piss poor protoplasm?) Is it just such a sense of brokenness? is this something that you can teach a human being? can it be fixed?

Could I even tell when it is fixed? Sheesh, I couldn't figure out he was like that when I married him. Clearly I'm a shitty diagnostician! So is it fixed, or is it Hitler fixed? Am I so broken? That's why I'm staying?

And then it just comes down to I don't care which it is. I'm too tired to deal with it. I just want it to not hurt, which is why I'm numb. I was looking it up. It's a symptom of PTSD. Meh. Oh well.


Posts: 231 | Registered: Dec 2012 | From: texas
sri624
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Default  Posted: 1:43 AM, July 15th (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

hi there...i am glad i read this post. i can relate. actually, i am in that anger stage....i am pissed and sad everyday...and i mean everyday...for all of the same reasons as everyone else when they find out their spouse has been cheating. it has pretty much been a rollercoaster....i have been pretty much telling him off for a solid week.

you know what? i actually wish that i had the feeling you discuss. it seems like it would be a relief to me...to not care so much....and be in so much pain every single day. i wish i could just look over at him tomorrow, and just not give a fuck, you know? and divorce him, and be done with the whole thing. but i am not there...yet. i am not ready. i know this because i would have been gone now.

one thing that does give me some hope...maybe it will you too. my ic told me that this whole "process" is like grieving...even worse really...but anyway....there are different stages. and i am not at the same stage iwas when i found out the horrific double life my husband was leading. i use to cry every single day. and now i dont. i used to be a doormat...i still cringe at what i put up with to "make him happy." that girl is long gone. so i am making progress.

i dont trust him at all..and i think he is a scumbag most of the time for his behavior, but i do see that he has 'potential" so i stick around. he is doing all he can.

it is just me. i'm stuck...stuck in this anger/sadness phase...and i think that with time...i will move pass this as well.

at least i hope.

i am giving myself a year...and then i will divorce if i am not any better. i dont want to stay married years and years in a marriage after cheating where there is no progress on my part in healing or forgivness. you know what i mean?


BS (41):(Former Doormat)
WS (39):(Busted Cheater)
Married: 10 years, 3 kids under 5
DD1: 10/11 PA/EA with pilates instructor/former stripper.
DD2: 10/12 False r, cheating with other women, online dating,Substance abuse issues.
R:Last chance

Posts: 1039 | Registered: Nov 2011 | From: Alabama
n0tm3
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Default  Posted: 11:14 AM, July 15th (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I feel the same way. I feel like I am in limbo. For me the apathy comes from not wanting to risk being hurt again. Feeling numb for him is still comforting. He can't hurt me if I feel nothing for him. Unfortunately there are days when I know that deep down I am still madly in love with him. I do not want to be. Right now today I can not kick the feeling, the certainty that he will crush me again. I don't think that I can survive this again. Apathy feels safe right now. Sadly I can not surpress my feelings everyday.


Me: BS 45
Him: WH 45
DDay #1: 12/17/12; OW 47 married 23
years
DDay #2 2/1/13 EA 6 years ago for 2 weeks with a married college friend through FB
Married 18 years, together 21 years
3 kids; 7,13,16
R trying IC and MC

Posts: 253 | Registered: Dec 2012
Maat1021
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Default  Posted: 1:25 PM, July 15th (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I very much relate, these are my exact feelings over 1 year out now. Wow, I'm taken aback to see someone who knows exactly how I feel. We no longer live under the same roof as of 2 weeks ago so I'm wondering if I'll begin to feel differently towards him. My love for him is part obligation part history having spent the pass almost 11 years together and two great kids. I'm not in love and don't feel much else towards him. I want him around but hate having him around. Makes no sense! I'll take this over the anger and sadness but I feel stuck still which I don't like either.

Posts: 4 | Registered: Nov 2012 | From: Maat1021
TXwifemom
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Member # 37945
Default  Posted: 3:40 PM, July 16th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Well at least we are all in the same suck ass boat together. Sigh.

Posts: 231 | Registered: Dec 2012 | From: texas
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