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User Topic: Dear God!!! Someone please help me!!!
♀ 39865
Member # 39865
Default  Posted: 2:52 PM, July 21st (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I thought I had the truth 6 weeks ago when my FWH supposedly told me everything. I thought we were making lots of progress with very deep conversations that felt like real intimacy. We never stopped having sex and it was much more passionate and intense due to our deep conversations. I felt like he was being real and we were reconciling (as he wanted).
Come to find out there has been LOTS of minimizing, trickle truthing and omitting since DD on 6/8/13. Today, (I think) I finally have 95% of it....based off facts I put together via email, vm messages, conversations with the OW and the things he's said.
I've basically constructed my own timeline.
His cheating behavior is much worse than he admitted to. It's more women in and out-of-town and just totally unbelievable!!! I don't feel anything anymore. I can't cry anymore...just numb and stunned. The lies every other day make me feel like I'm going crazy. He has cried, pleaded, said he loves me, poured out his heart, prayed, read scriptures to me, held me, apologized repeatedly to me, our parents and children. I don't know what to do or who or what to beleive

Me- BS/WS(42) DDay 8/22/13
Him- FWH (41)
Married 17 years
DD #1 Spring 2009
DD #2 6/8/13
DD #3 6/21/13
Porn, OLAs, ONS, 2 LT EA/PA

Posts: 29 | Registered: Jul 2013 | From: California
♀ 35812
Member # 35812
Default  Posted: 3:09 PM, July 21st (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((hugs))) Many people have said that the end of their marriages comes about not because of the infidelity, but because of the continual lies. Each lie, each TT, each discovery is a new wound opened. Death by a 1,000 cuts.

If you have not already, move this idiot out of your bedroom, if not your home. All this time that he has been playing the role of Good And Faithful Husband, he's been lying to you, hiding from you, and pretending that he's actually changed and is being a changed man. This is very much a DDay #3, and it hurts just as much as the other ones.

And FWIW, tell him to stick his scriptures in the orifice that his head is firmly lodged. There is no scripture that condones what he's done.

Please just keep breathing. Stay present for your children. Let him take care of himself. If you need him to leave for a few days so you can catch your breath, then make it so. And keep coming back for support. (((hugs)))

Imagine a ship trying to set sail while towing an anchor. Cutting free is not a gift to the anchor. You must release that burden, not because the anchor is worthy, but because the ship is.

D-Day, June 10, 2012

Posts: 10176 | Registered: Jun 2012 | From: So California
♀ 24938
Member # 24938
Default  Posted: 3:22 PM, July 21st (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I am so sorry that you are going through this now.
I know how heart beaking DDay was for me. I truly felt that I would never recover from the shock.
And here you have TT and a second or third d-day.
Just one shock after another.
I agree with Skan in that you may need some time apart from your WH just to re-group and process all of this new information.
If you don't want to ask him to leave the house at least ask him to leave the bedroom for now.
I did kick my FWH out of the house after d-day-that was hitting bottom for him.
While he was out of the house and desperate to come back home I got all of the information that I asked for about the LTA (including a very detailed timeline).
Once he moved back home-he assumed that all was forgiven and would be shocked if I brought up the affair.

The 180 (detaching from him) works. It will help you to have a chance to think.
And it will give him a chance to think as well.

Then, you can decide how you want to proceed.
If you decide to try to R you may have a list of conditions.
I did. And they included IC for him as well as MC for us as a couple, complete transparency etc. etc.
I would also suggest that you try IC for yourself.
It was a life saver for me.
Finding out about a betrayal like this is extremely traumatic.
Please take care of yourself.

Me- BS
Him- WH
Long term marriage
D-day- Jan. 2007
5 yr. LTA

Posts: 3174 | Registered: Jul 2009 | From: NJ
♀ 32554
Member # 32554
Default  Posted: 4:18 PM, July 21st (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage


Please get yourself tested for every STD out there. Pap smear, blood drawn, all of it. Several members here have found out that their spouse/partner not only broke their heart but infected them with a disease as well.

Good luck.

Me = BS
Him = EX-d out (abusive troglodyte NPD SA)
3 tween-aged kids
Together 20 years
D-Day: Memorial Weekend 2011
2013 - DIVORCED!

Posts: 10722 | Registered: Jun 2011 | From: USA
Member # 36041
Default  Posted: 4:54 PM, July 21st (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

See a lawyer and find out your rights. Take half the money and put it into an account only you can access. Get him out of the house if you can. Throw him out of the bedroom and get tested for STDS tomorrow.

Get tough and put on the bitch boots.

White bird must fly or she will die . . .

Posts: 268 | Registered: Jul 2012 | From: in divorce land
Heavy Sigh
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Default  Posted: 5:28 PM, July 21st (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

He may wish to stop being compulsive, but whether the can is yet to be proved, and counseling (for him, first) is a start.

Here is a window into this kind of man, if it helps:

My husband and I traveled to work conferences. One of our friends - former co-worker - would be at these conferences as part of his new job at another company, and although we were happy to see him, he would make excuses to not join the group of us going out to dinner and avoided us - darting down hallways as if not seeing us. I wondered if we had offended him, or if he never liked us and now didn't have to pretend, as we no longer worked together.

The second year I figured it out when I saw a woman leaving his room late at night when we were headed back to our room after a play. He never knew I saw her leaving his room.

He was seeing escorts while away from his beautiful young wife he had recently married. I had not met her, but had seen photos of wedding. He did not seem happy and partying or content or smirky each evening or the day after these trysts. He seemed miserable. Always furtive and miserable.

A few other cheaters I'd known drank a lot, and were smarmy in that stereotypical way trying to pick up drunk women. But he seemed miserable doing it.

Later over the years, we would hear how he tried to get other former co-workers to attend strip shows, and he hired escorts when at other professional events.

Sex addict, I think, although we didn't have the word for it back then.

[This message edited by Heavy Sigh at 5:32 PM, July 21st (Sunday)]

Posts: 1926 | Registered: Dec 2011
♀ 34678
Member # 34678
Default  Posted: 9:36 PM, July 21st (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Is he in counseling? are you?

You can go on a forum on this SI site, the title is I Can Relate and there is a subtitle for those married to sex addicts. Please check it out.

I have to say that sometimes a WS only gets up the courage to tell everything they have done as their self image and self confidence improves. I have read under the Forum for the Wayward spouses to post, that it is a fight for them to get the courage to tell their spouse everything. It is much easier for them to stay in denial and escape from reality with a sex partner.

His sickness is his sickness. You cannot control it. You cannot cure it because you didn't cause it.


Sometimes He calms the storm. Sometimes He lets the storm rage, but calms His child.
Dday 12/19/11
I gave a 24hour ultimatum then went to attorney next day. Shocked the hell out of him, with D papers, I'm proud to say!
D final10/30/2012

Posts: 4162 | Registered: Jan 2012
♀ 6449
Member # 6449
Default  Posted: 11:43 PM, July 21st (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage


~~"You can't run away from yourself"!!! Me to my H when he descended into adultery insanity.
~~Prov.15:13 "By sorrow of the heart the spirit is broken"
~~"The day breaks-your mind aches"

Posts: 10024 | Registered: Feb 2005 | From: Texas
solus sto
♀ 30989
Member # 30989
Default  Posted: 8:55 AM, July 22nd (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

((((Crushed))) I'm so sorry. I, too, found out far more about my husband post-dday than I ever could have imagined.

I HATE the minimizing term "trickle truth," and won't use it. It's got nothing to do with the truth. It's lying---to protect the WS, to protect his secrets and lies, and to protect APs. Lies and minimization kill relationships.

I could have gotten past the infidelity. I probably could have gotten past the ENTIRETY of the infidelities, if told on d-day.

When you take a HUGE leap of faith, and put your heart back into the hands of someone who continues to lie and cheat and protect himself at your expense...well, that's what kills it.

I'm so, so sorry for your pain.

BS-me, 55; WX-irrelevant
Divorced after an eternity
"So much for the past and present. The future is called 'perhaps,' which is the only possible thing to call the future. And the important thing is not to let that scare you." Tenn

Posts: 15345 | Registered: Jan 2011 | From: midwest
♀ 38975
Member # 38975
Frustrated  Posted: 9:07 AM, July 22nd (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Dear Crushed

Today, (I think) I finally have 95% of it

I don't truly believe that as a BS we will ever know everything. Even if the WS is totally committed to R, I believe they can't fully disclose 100% because of the guilt, how it makes them look/feel etc.

I just finally accepted that I knew ENOUGH. I knew that my FWH had cheated and that I was devastated.

Does you WH know WHY he allowed himself to cheat? What has he done or is planning to do in order to ensure it will never happen again?

Actions speak louder than words. Lies erode trust. He keeps lying then there might not be anything left to save.

IC and MC?

Hang in there. You can do this. We are all rooting for you.

Sometimes my life feels like a test I didn't study for

Posts: 3409 | Registered: Apr 2013
♂ 39704
Member # 39704
Default  Posted: 10:04 PM, July 22nd (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Here is a scripture just for you.

Psalm 91:4 He will cover you with his feathers, and under his wings you will find refuge; his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.

HS Sweethearts
Married 17 years
D-Day June 6,2013
Verizon + Integrated Messaging = I am secretly reading EVERY text and picture she sends.

Posts: 43 | Registered: Jun 2013
♀ 37656
Member # 37656
Default  Posted: 12:27 AM, July 23rd (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Dear Crushed18,


I only had one Dday and that was so devastating. I found out additional information as time went on.

First, take care of yourself!! Eat when you can, try to stay hydrated. Breath, breath, breath. I won't tell you to try to get enough sleep, because even 8 months out, sleep is still a problem for me. Exercise if you are up to it. Post here, read the Healing Library. Try to practice no contact with your spouse. It's hard, but doing that gave me some breathing space.

I consulted with an attorney right away to find out what my rights were. I got as much information as I could. I also did a lot of reading on Narcissism and came to understand that this was NOT my fault. His affair is NOT your fault. He is damaged goods.

Take care of yourself. This is crazy making stuff. Going numb is okay, it protects you. You are going through a lot of trauma and pain right now, but it will get better.

I got into the marriage, because I loved him. I got out of the marriage, because I love me.

Posts: 491 | Registered: Nov 2012 | From: Southern California
♀ 9973
Member # 9973
Default  Posted: 9:14 PM, July 23rd (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

This is so common, but I know that doesn't make it easier.
I think it's rare to get everything at once on first "confession"
It is the stuff they leave out and we are giving everything....the fact that they are keeping those private things secret STILL is maddening.
I am so sorry you are among the ranks here, but you are good company. Hugs

As of 10/30/16 I'm in WTF mode.
Ten+ years out. Stunned.
After several years of solid R, (F)MOW
CHECKS IN in to say Hi~ H CHECKS OUT briefly and "forgets to tell me" because IT HADN'T gotten
physical this time. 4 months out agai

Posts: 2875 | Registered: Mar 2006 | From: The Valley
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