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ajsmom posted 8/16/2013 14:47 PM

Am I the only one here who has some shiver-me-timbers red flag feelings about this case?

In the news today, “Evidence gathered with a search warrant of the suspect’s home and garage include a handwritten note, handcuff box, camping equipment and a DNA swab kit, including incendiary devices, a gas can, rolls of duct tape, used condoms, ammunition, an arson wire and letters from Hannah.”

Wait…what? Letters from her?

Well, those…and the 13 phone calls from him…and her odd comment about “Now we’re in trouble,” which was overheard by the people on horseback…and her commenting/posting happy photos on social media. Now I hear she doesn’t want to be around her father, apparently making some comment on social media about “not wanting to be around men that age right now.”

I really don’t want to think the badly here, but bells are ringing.

Thoughts?

AJ’s MOM

Catwoman posted 8/16/2013 14:49 PM

I get the sense there was some consensual behavior here, but to what extent, I don't know. A part of me wants to believe that she is truly an innocent, victimized girl, but her apparent "normalcy" and posting on social media is raising the hair on the back of my neck.

Cat

MissesJai posted 8/16/2013 14:50 PM

I can't shake the feeling there is soooo much more to this story and Hannah's involvement with her abductor. I don't want to jump to conclusions but something just seems "off". The letters & calls are huge red flags. What is your theory?

GabyBaby posted 8/16/2013 14:51 PM

I also agree and had the same feelings when the case broke.

I too think that it was a young girl trying on her flirting with a "safe" adult and it went way beyond what she intended.

ajsmom posted 8/16/2013 15:04 PM

My gut tells me they were involved in some type of relationship.

My gut screams that her mother found out about it, went to confront him (with little brother in tow) and he snapped.

ETA...or

... Hannah herself tried to break it off and he snapped, and truly did kidnap her.

[This message edited by ajsmom at 3:12 PM, August 16th (Friday)]

yewtree posted 8/16/2013 15:05 PM

Used condoms? Who keeps those?

GabyBaby posted 8/16/2013 15:17 PM

I'm not sure which theory I "like" better as to how/why the kidnapping happened, but I do believe that there was an inappropriate relationship in which Hannah was actively participating.

Nature_Girl posted 8/16/2013 15:19 PM

Yep, bells are ringing, red flags are being tossed all over the field. Something is not right.

ETA:
"My gut screams that her mother found out about it, went to confront him (with little brother in tow) and he snapped. "

That is exactly what my gut is screaming as well.

[This message edited by Nature_Girl at 3:21 PM, August 16th (Friday)]

Amazonia posted 8/16/2013 15:29 PM

The metro Express paper this morning had two sentences that I didn't understand... "The warrants say the former telecommunications technician took Hannah on multi-day trips, most recently to Malibu and Hollywood. Hannah said she didn't tell her parents becuase DiMaggio was his father's best friend 'and I didn't want to ruin anything between them.' "

1) "his father's" - is this a typo that should have been "her"?
2) didn't tell her parents what???? that she was gone on multi-day trips? How would they not know that?!

[This message edited by Amazonia at 3:30 PM, August 16th (Friday)]

ajsmom posted 8/16/2013 15:32 PM

He was reported to have been her father's best friend, and knew the father well before Hannah was even born.

MissesJai posted 8/16/2013 15:39 PM

her mother found out about it, went to confront him (with little brother in tow) and he snapped.
This sounds very plausible and I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case. The truth will eventually come out.

ajsmom posted 8/16/2013 15:43 PM

didn't tell her parents what???? that she was gone on multi-day trips? How would they not know that?!

Skipped school? Fudged absentee forms?

metamorphisis posted 8/16/2013 16:07 PM

At a news conference Monday, San Diego County Sheriff Bill Gore stressed that the girl played no part in the slayings and was "a victim in every sense of the word." Hannah did not even learn the fate of her mother and brother until her rescue, authorities said.

Newlease posted 8/16/2013 16:16 PM

Even if she was participating in a "relationship," don't you think that due to her youth that she may have been groomed?

We can speculate all we want, but the whole truth is not yet out there and I hate to jump to conclusions when there is an underage child involved.

NL

ajsmom posted 8/16/2013 16:20 PM

I think the letters/note will be very telling.

GabyBaby posted 8/16/2013 16:23 PM

The blame squarely belongs and (for me) is placed at the doorstep of the dead kidnapper.

I just think that Hannah has some parts in this that haven't fully come to light yet. The letters will indeed be very interesting.

trying_2_recover posted 8/16/2013 16:24 PM

My understanding is that the internet postings were never confirmed to have actually been from her.

Also this gentleman had been part of her family all her life. He was an uncle figure. He interacted with both children as such. Calls, trips, letters would not be unusual in that case, necessarily.

Here are where my red flags come up. Mom and dad are separated, dad moves across country not in with best friend which would have helped both of their financial situations and left Dad close to kids. Mom and kids continue relationship with best friend. DNA test kit found. I'm actually wondering if mom and dad's best friend were having an affair and that was behind the divorce and dad leaving the area.

ajsmom posted 8/16/2013 16:26 PM

Interesting.

I didn't know her parents were separated.

asurvivor posted 8/16/2013 16:34 PM

Quite frankly I'm just a little disturbed by this thread. Here we have a kid that just lost her mother and brother and the speculation is going around that because of her involvement with a fucking...I repeat...fucking predator that this was the reason it happened. Even if it was like that I don't think we need to be discussing the ins and out like this is some Casey Anthony thread. My God, this is a freaking kid who has to read and hear this crap and be made to feel like she is the accessory to murder of her family by some I repeat...fucking murdering predator. I have a kid around her age and I guess I'm a wee bit sensitive here.

I just hope people leave this kid alone to somehow come to terms with all this no matter how it happened. If you want to speculate do it with the fucking predator and pray for this kid.

[This message edited by asurvivor at 4:35 PM, August 16th (Friday)]

metamorphisis posted 8/16/2013 16:35 PM

Why would the police stress that she was "a victim in every sense of the word" as I quoted above, stress that she didn't even find out her mother and brother had been tortured and murdered until after she was rescued, if that wasn't the case?

As a member and the mother of a 16 year old girl, I'm also disturbed by the speculation when the official news conference from the authorities stressed she had no knowledge of their murder. She's a kid.

[This message edited by SI Staff at 4:36 PM, August 16th (Friday)]

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