friends wife lasting 10 years. TT over a
year a year. Now his health is declining,
among the lack of communication.
I am glad I came out of my A un-diseased, I really risked myself and my husband and that makes me feel like crap. I assure you it was the last thing on our (us WS's) selfish, stupid minds, when it should have been the second, the first being our relationship.
[This message edited by stupidgurl at 11:53 PM, August 20th (Tuesday)]
2002/3 (him) EA
Tog. 14 yrs, Marr. 13 and counting!
IC counceler also told me there have been epic outbreaks of STDs in the over 60 population. Primarily because of Viagra, and spouses that have been in longtime marriages now widowed and seeking partners that have had multiple partners and exposure. Something my generation didn't do. Crazy isn't it?
[This message edited by brokendancer7 at 9:18 AM, August 21st (Wednesday)]
Latest DD - April 2013, PA
I've done some reading but I'm still confused about some things.
1. Why can't men be tested for HPV?
2. I've read that it can be dormant for upwards of 20 yrs, is that true?
3. If it is true, how can some people say they got from their WS's affair when it could have been from a previous partner (if the person had a previous partner)?
4. I've read/heard that there a many different types of HPV, some that our bodies can naturally get rid off and others are more serious, is this true?
Sorry for all the stupid questions.
It is true, there is no test for men. Not sure why though. Also, the test for women is just your regular pap unless you want to do a biopsy to get for sure results. So maybe the test has to be a tissue test? If so, I'm sure there's not a man alive that would give up some man meat skin to have it tested for an STD.... "remove the scalpel from my nether regions!" he would say. I had to have a biopsy to test for it because I told my GYN that I wanted to be sure. Plus I was having a hyster anyway, so he did the biopsy and said I was good.
I also wanted to point out that it can be a very nasty thing for men to have as well. Men can get oral and throat cancer from HPV. They can also have rectal cancer and issues as well. There was a BW on here a few years ago who's WH had rectal and testicular issues due to his HPV. He had to have several surgeries down there, the way she described it he was blistered up all over down there, to the point that she couldn't help but cringe when she looked at it. He was out of commission in the bedroom for a VERY long time because of it. And he suffered a GREAT deal of pain due to it as well. So there are some serious consequences to the men with HPV as well. But HPV.... they don't really talk about this STD at all.
So there are a few ways to test, they may not be common, because it hasn't been a forced issue, but there is a way.
Dr Oz makes me nuts. I don't understand why he is even allowed to spew the crap he does on tv. Misleading information to America on a daily basis. UGH!
Simply Devastated, in answer to your other questions:
#2-3. Yes, it can be dormant for several years. If someone has had multiple sex partners (that's more than ONE, folks! ) there is no way to know for sure from whom you contracted the virus.
#4. Yes there are many, many different strains, some high risk for cancer and some low risk. The HPV vaccine protects against the most common high risk strains. The HPV DNA test you sometimes receive with your Pap tests for many of the most common high risk strains. There are DNA tests for low risk strains but the low risk strains aren't really something to worry about and it's cost prohibitive to test for them. Some labs still do it, but I think that's a crime.
80% of the population has or had HPV. Even if a woman develops low grade cervical lesions due to HPV, 70% of those will regress WITHOUT treatment. In fact, about 50% of high grade lesions are thought to regress spontaneously as well.
(What I am referring to as lesions are different than strains, i.e. high risk strain of HPV does not necessarily mean high grade lesion, but those with a high grade lesion usually have a high risk strain. Clear as mud?!).
This does NOT mean you should gamble if you are diagnosed with a high grade cervical lesion. However, there has been a shift in recent years to treat young women with certain lesions less aggressively than they used to in the past. If women have a leep or cone procedure (not biopsy, that is a small amount of tissue) they are more at risk for cervical incompetence during pregnancy.
Bottom line- get those Pap smears at the recommended intervals. This may be every 6 months, it could be every 3-5 years depending on your age and history.
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I didn't know it is believed to be the cause of some prostate cancer. I'd like to read the research on if for WS.
I went through this in late 2002. I can't say for sure my H gave it to me. I was only with H from 1997 on but I was not a virgin before him.
Full hysterectomy due to cancer at 27 or 28 years old....can't do age math right now.
Neither of us has had a problem since, but I am confused as to whether we still carry the virus or if it has completely left the body.
He never disclosed to AP that he had had it, and of course did not use a condom.
Part of me hopes that my FWH passed the virus on to the parasite he had his A with. I know that is terrible, but the thought of her clutching her burning nether regions in agony is small consolation for the pain she brought to my life.
Anyone know if it is possible for a male to carry and pass on a long dormant (17years) strain of HPV?
[This message edited by minorsong at 1:01 PM, August 22nd (Thursday)]
I knew that a 21-year-old having a cervical cancer scare probably meant HPV so I went and got a pap. Yup. Abnormal cells for me, too, and within about a month, my husband began developing warts.
My doctor refused to do a hysterectomy and insisted that because I was healthy and didn't drink or smoke, I had a good chance of fighting it off with my immune system. In the meantime, my husband went and got a prescription cream for the warts. I had paps every 3 or 4 months after the first abnormal pap and colposcopy with biopsies.
The results: Within the first year, I was having normal pap smears. My husband never used the cream and, instead, began eating to boost his immune system, stopped taking ibuprofen and pain meds, and cut back on smoking. His warts went away on their own.
I now get a pap every year and so far, so good. I also insisted that my teenage daughter get the vaccine but explained that there were many strains and the vaccine only protected against a few so she still needs to be cautious.