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Reconciliation :
180 Questions - trying

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 broken0912 (original poster member #39780) posted at 9:06 PM on Saturday, September 14th, 2013

So this is day 2 of practicing the 180 - I actually went out and washed my own car today - first time in prob 10 yrs. I can see my FWH is uncomfortable, and I know he will soon start asking questions, and wanting me to sit & snuggle on the couch with him, have sex, and expect me to cook dinner.

What do I tell him when he asks me to sit with him on the couch? What reason do I give for not wanting to make love?

Should I continue to make dinners? If not why should I tell him I have quit cooking?

This is so hard, and after he fell asleep last night, I went to my room and spun out like a crazy woman, talking to myself and the dog, cussing him & OW & all the people (there were ALOT) who enabled it and the lie to continue for 6 yrs.

He walked in and I think he heard & saw me (going crazy), but I acted like I was just getting ready for bed and he didn't mention it.

BS 52
WS 64
OW 34 now - 23-24 when it began
dday-9/4/12
M 16+ together 19
HIS DC: D-33
6,S-28,S-25
MINE: 0 -he was too old to have C at 44, but had OC at 57
LTA: EA 1-2yr then 1.5 after pa end
LTA: PA 3.5-4 yrs

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Skan ( member #35812) posted at 10:29 PM on Saturday, September 14th, 2013

No thank you.

I have other things to do.

I don't want to.

I don't need a reason.

I don't feel like _____ for you.

Those short, simple replies worked pretty good for me for just about every situation. Repeated as many times as needed. Sometimes coupled with leaving the room or house. Essentially, when I needed to detach, I look through him, if I had to look at him at all, and just carried on my life. Sorta treated him like a not-too-bright annoying roommate.

Imagine a ship trying to set sail while towing an anchor. Cutting free is not a gift to the anchor. You must release that burden, not because the anchor is worthy, but because the ship is.

D-Day, June 10, 2012


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 broken0912 (original poster member #39780) posted at 2:40 AM on Sunday, September 15th, 2013

Thank you Skan - I actually went for a walk/jog today then while he was out mowing the lawn, I couldn't help myself. I picked up his phone - Our last episode, (which wasn't really an episode) he told me he deleted his text msgs & call log while I was on vacation because he got mad during one of our conversations the first few days I was there and had decided we were "done". I said, "not cool" - He said, "I don't think you know how mad I really was." My first day home. It was 1:30 a.m. the end of a very peaceful evening that we had spent laying on the couch together, but I refused sex. I was purposely not going to bring up any of my questions about who he talked to while I was gone and/or why he hadn't done anymore writing on the timeline & details that I am still waiting for 1 yr later. So until I had some answers and we had been on such shaky ground just 2 days earlier, I told him I couldn't have sex.

Anyway, since it was 1:30 and I had promised myself I was not going to fight or argue that day, I was able to just go to bed (or should I say go to my room).

Yesterday was my 2nd day home and after Thursday night, I decided I was really going to commit to the 180. So yesterday, being my 1st day of 180 was really pretty easy, because I was angry first thing in the morning (before I truly committed) and he decided to take a clonapin and go to sleep. So it wasn't hard practicing the plan while he slept. He woke up for a few hours and then went back to sleep. Today, my oldest 25 yr old stepson has been here all day and then his friend also came over. I have waited all day to take a shower, but the kid is still here, so I guess, I'll just take all my stuff and get it done.

Anyway, while he was mowing, I checked his call log and texts that only went back until the 9th, since he deleted all before that. When I saw all the calls to his daughter for extended lengths of time and another one to my friend for 20 minutes (this was at least the 3rd call between them while I was gone - I didn't see the others because they were before the 9th) He told me they talked twice while I was gone. So not only was he discussing me & us with his daughter again, after I have asked him over & over not to discuss "us" with her while I"m not here (then called her today as soon as I left), he also lied AGAIN about how many times he spoke to my soon to be ex-best friend.

He cannot understand why I am still not over this after a year and "see's no forgiveness" in me. Well, I wonder why?!!!??? He still won't give me details and hasn't done anything we agreed on except not cheat and not see the OC, and he continues to lie to me, but claims he isn't.

So, anyway, after finding the stuff on his phone I was about to explode, so I left again. Wrote pages about it, breathed, calmed down & came back home.

Wish me luck and send prayers my way for tomorrow. This really seems to be the end of my marriage, but who knows, maybe God will work a miracle and my FWH will have a change of attitude & behavior. I am sick inside, but preparing myself in every way I know how, to face D if/when it happens.

BS 52
WS 64
OW 34 now - 23-24 when it began
dday-9/4/12
M 16+ together 19
HIS DC: D-33
6,S-28,S-25
MINE: 0 -he was too old to have C at 44, but had OC at 57
LTA: EA 1-2yr then 1.5 after pa end
LTA: PA 3.5-4 yrs

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 broken0912 (original poster member #39780) posted at 2:41 AM on Sunday, September 15th, 2013

Also, Skan, can you tell me are you still doing 180? Are you in R? How are things going for you?

BS 52
WS 64
OW 34 now - 23-24 when it began
dday-9/4/12
M 16+ together 19
HIS DC: D-33
6,S-28,S-25
MINE: 0 -he was too old to have C at 44, but had OC at 57
LTA: EA 1-2yr then 1.5 after pa end
LTA: PA 3.5-4 yrs

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 broken0912 (original poster member #39780) posted at 3:01 AM on Sunday, September 15th, 2013

Also, if he asks (which he has many times in the last year) if we are going to make it, do I tell him the truth, that it is on him now - or do I just say "I don't know."

THANKS!

BS 52
WS 64
OW 34 now - 23-24 when it began
dday-9/4/12
M 16+ together 19
HIS DC: D-33
6,S-28,S-25
MINE: 0 -he was too old to have C at 44, but had OC at 57
LTA: EA 1-2yr then 1.5 after pa end
LTA: PA 3.5-4 yrs

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