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noglamour (original poster member #40380) posted at 8:07 PM on Tuesday, September 17th, 2013
My BS has been making little comments when I see her and they hurt some.
I feel as if they are little jabs at me.
How I do I handle these comments?
Me: WS 41
Her: BS 39
9 year old
Married 10 years
DDay 7/29/13
DDay 2 1/8/15
D 11/17/2015
NewMom0220 ( member #39036) posted at 8:13 PM on Tuesday, September 17th, 2013
What kind of comments? What kinds of things is she saying?
Me: BS 37
Him: WS 37
20 month old DS
Married 5 years, together 8, DIVORCING!!! (taking forever)
DDay: 3/1/13 (4 Month PA while I was pregnant)
Sometimes all you have to do is forget what you feel and remember what you deserve.
Scubachick ( member #39906) posted at 8:22 PM on Tuesday, September 17th, 2013
I'm guilty of doing this to my husband. I'm trying to control it better. I do this because I'm hurting and I want him to feel it to. I wish my husband would ask me what's really bothering me. I wish he'd just hug me and say, I'm sorry your hurting. Or even, I can tell your angry with me, do you want to talk about it. Instead, he sits there not saying a word and feels sorry for himself.
sunnyrain ( member #30164) posted at 8:29 PM on Tuesday, September 17th, 2013
Encourage her to say what she needs to say. Invite her to share.
"I'm not much into health food, I am into champagne."
uncertainone ( member #28108) posted at 8:30 PM on Tuesday, September 17th, 2013
Scubachick, instead of distancing yourself with these little barbs while not tell him just that? Expecting someone to turn toward you as you're pushing them a way seems to be rather counter productive...unless you just want to hurt him.
Noglamour, depends what your goal is. If you're divorcing I'd ignore and keep the conversation kids and finances.
I know your goal is reconciliation. She has chosen seperation. She needs to own that choice. She can conduct herself anyway she wants. You don't need to accept nor internalize any of it. It's not healthy for either of you. Don't use your past shitty choices to make present shitty choices. Boundaries.
Me: 37
'til the roof comes off. 'til the lights go out. 'til my legs give out, can't shut my mouth
Sparkle0504 ( member #40379) posted at 10:02 PM on Tuesday, September 17th, 2013
I do the same. It's me saying I want to talk about it, I want him to show remorse, I want him to hold me and tell me he sees where I'm coming from. Rare that he actually does.
I don't feel guilty about it. I will say and do whatever I see fit (and to be fair to myself, I am never nasty) until something gives and he faces up to his outrageous behaviour.
[This message edited by Sparkle0504 at 10:40 AM, October 14th (Monday)]
Me 52 (BS) Him 60 (EXSAWH)
DDay (too many to mention), but 1st 06/2011
I'm done. Separated.
Time is always right, to do right. (Dr Martin Luther King)
Sparkle0504 ( member #40379) posted at 10:14 PM on Tuesday, September 17th, 2013
(And I do tell him that these are the things I want/need).
Me 52 (BS) Him 60 (EXSAWH)
DDay (too many to mention), but 1st 06/2011
I'm done. Separated.
Time is always right, to do right. (Dr Martin Luther King)
Blobette ( member #36519) posted at 10:55 PM on Tuesday, September 17th, 2013
A lot of what we're talking about in MC relates to his inability to empathize, and the response to jabs like that is a case in point. Is the WS responding to the underlying emotion (as Scubachick says, the fact that she's hurting) OR is he focused on how unfair the BS is being (all about him)? So, noglamour, that may be what you need to focus on. Sometimes when a BS does that, it's to test the WS (do you really love me? Let's see how obnoxious I can be! I bet you don't really love me!) But it's also a cry for attention to the hurt a BS is feeling. So react to that, not the stupid jab.
Hope this helps.
BS (me): 51
WS: 52
Married: 27 yrs
Kids: 2
OW: Co-worker, 7 yr LTA
DD 8/1/2012, Working on R
noglamour (original poster member #40380) posted at 11:14 PM on Tuesday, September 17th, 2013
Her and I work together and she is working on this Instagram feature that will be going on the web site.
She came up with something this morning and she got offended when I wasn't "feeling" what she came up with.
Later that day she text...
Her: Doll House
Me: Huh?
Her: New idea
Her: The doll house
Me: Ok. I'm lost
Her: Hahaha I know
When she came home (i was watching our son) she mentioned the doll and that I would like that because its "strippers and high heels"
Its a strip club in my city.
I realize that I hurt her far more than I can ever imagine.
uncertainone,
my goal is to R, but she does not want to.
At this time we are separated and i think you are right.
She was out getting her hair done when she was texting. Son was home sick so I was over watching him.
I didnt acknowledge her new hair when she got home.
Me: WS 41
Her: BS 39
9 year old
Married 10 years
DDay 7/29/13
DDay 2 1/8/15
D 11/17/2015
Card ( member #23667) posted at 11:58 PM on Tuesday, September 17th, 2013
I didnt acknowledge her new hair when she got home.
If your goal is recovery, you missed a great opportunity to pay her a compliment.
Passive aggressive behavior is not a friend of any marriage...
WH (me)
BS (her)
D-Days April - Oct. 2007 Recovery started Nov. 2007
"Found Myself", I was right there in my shoes all along!
Search for self called off!
Why Repentance Is Necessary? Because Undeserved Mercy Empowers Entitlement/Sin
noglamour (original poster member #40380) posted at 12:15 AM on Wednesday, September 18th, 2013
Card,
You're right. Normally I would have complimented. In fact, each time I have been over dropping of my son or visiting my son I pay her one.
Yesterday, she braided her hair and I told her how young she looked.
It's just been a bad day and I'm feeling hurt and angered.
Me: WS 41
Her: BS 39
9 year old
Married 10 years
DDay 7/29/13
DDay 2 1/8/15
D 11/17/2015
FR2012 ( member #36345) posted at 12:28 AM on Wednesday, September 18th, 2013
Yesterday while my husband and I were talking about stuff. We started talking about my A and he was asking questions. I answered them as I should and then I felt like he was taking pot shots at me. Just little things but I felt like he was doing it on purpose to get at me, to hurt me like he is hurting.
I asked him if they were pot shots at me like I felt they were and he said he didn't mean for it to sound like that. He said he wasn't. Not everything the BS says is meant to hurt you.
Just talk to your BS and ask. You can ask questions too.
BH (him): 28 ~ FWW (me): 27
Together 9 years
2 kids
D-Day: April 19, 2012
noglamour (original poster member #40380) posted at 1:00 AM on Wednesday, September 18th, 2013
FR2012,
next time i will ask her and and also let her know that her it hurts me.
My BS never acted like this to me before the A.
Me: WS 41
Her: BS 39
9 year old
Married 10 years
DDay 7/29/13
DDay 2 1/8/15
D 11/17/2015
womaninflux ( member #39667) posted at 1:51 AM on Wednesday, September 18th, 2013
I will admit I did some of this, too. While out to dinner with another couple, the wife was talking about the wife of of a mutual friend whom she doesn't get along with and she was describing the person as a certain eastern european heritage with a spray tan and I said "Oh Im very familiar with the type" (this described SAWH's PoA). SAWH got really snippy with me. Mind you, I later discovered he was still not NC with her and in fact did not break it off with her until a few weeks from that date. So he was still hedging, I guess.
Bottom line: yes, it's immature. But it's a low risk way of letting you know she's angry and thinks you made a poor choice. I'm not saying it's pleasant but discovering your H has been having an affair is also not pleasant. It won't last forever, especially if you respond to it in a caring way. "Jane, I know what I did bothers you. I am trying to show you that I am sorry. The comments you make aren't helping the situation." Please don't do what my H did which was to get super defensive and stick up for his PoA.
BS - mid-40's
SAWH - mid 40's
Kids - 2 elementary school aged
Getting tons of therapy and trying to "work it out"
20WrongsVs1 ( member #39000) posted at 3:33 AM on Wednesday, September 18th, 2013
You asked how to handle them. My therapist recommends I say, "Ow," as if someone pinched me. Then take a moment and assess my feelings and make a blame-neutral statement like, "When you say that I feel so ashamed about how I betrayed you, and really angry at myself because I sense you're hurting."
That said, I agree with UO...if you're not in R then I'd recommend you imagine you're rubber and she's glue (as the schoolyard saying goes). "What you say bounces off me and sticks to you."
fWW: 42
BH: 52
DDay: April 21, 2013
Sweet DS & fierce DD, under 10
Former motto: "Fake it till ya make it." Now: "You can't win if you don't play."
Scubachick ( member #39906) posted at 7:24 PM on Wednesday, September 18th, 2013
Scubachick, instead of distancing yourself with these little barbs while not tell him just that? Expecting someone to turn toward you as you're pushing them a way seems to be rather counter productive...unless you just want to hurt him.
It's usually because it stems from small detail or fact about the affair that we don't agree on because of his decision to trickle truth. It's usually a super sore spot for me and I'm struggling in my head to let it go and move on. Even on a good day where I'm not thinking about it, it sits just below the surface and it doesn't take much to wake it up. I know talking about it again will get us nowhere. I've tried going to my husband and saying things like "I'm feeling really insecure and jealous right now" instead of acting out and his response is usually "we'll you shouldn't be" . I guess what I really need from my husband at times like these is reassurance and for him to acknowledge that his actions hurt me deeply.
noglamour (original poster member #40380) posted at 8:05 PM on Wednesday, September 18th, 2013
Thank you for the great responses. My BS asked me to help install a new doggy door. I came over today and we talked and I told her specifically which comments hurt me.
We agreed that I would tell her right then when it happens again.
It went well today
Me: WS 41
Her: BS 39
9 year old
Married 10 years
DDay 7/29/13
DDay 2 1/8/15
D 11/17/2015
JanaGreen ( member #29341) posted at 8:08 PM on Wednesday, September 18th, 2013
The comments bothered my H too, because he felt there was no constructive way to reply. So what I started doing was really trying to stop and figure out what the emotion was that was propelling me to make the comment. Many times what I was feeling was that I was unimportant to him, easily cast aside. Once I was able to express that to him, he knew how to reassure me, and we both felt better.
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