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I must have told fww that I've never heard her say she'd do anything to make it right about a hundred times. For some reason she doesn't take the hint. She really doesn't do anything either. Funny, think I need another drink.

(((FeelingMN)))

I hear you. I've felt that frustration. On one hand, you could give her a list of things she could do to show remorse and earn trust. Hopefully, she would step up to the plate and do them. On the other side, she should be asking you what she can do and trying to help you heal. I'm sorry she is not making an effort. Sending you strength.

Flat out Ask her what she's willing to do? It is strange she doesn't take the hint.

We had a conversation last night and I told her I've never heard her say the words, "I would do anything." To which she replied, "I want to make it work." Seriously, it was so frustrating. She's afraid if she says the words I want to hear her say they won't mean as much. She's never said it any other time either! I tried to explain what the difference between "I'll do anything" and "I want it to work". It's the difference between hoping for better and committing to better. She eventually said it but by the time she got there sounded like she was more mad than anything. It shouldn't surprise me because in our house even yes/no questions elicit yes/no and "other" responses.

I can tell her, and have, exactly what I need in order to make R successful. I really, really, really, don't want to have to tell her exactly what she has to do to get there. Should I? I'm starting IC tomorrow again to figure that out.

Words aren't all that meaningful. Have you told her what you want her to do to show remorse, to show that she wants to rebuild your M?

Gently, hints are bullshit, and WSes are effed up. If you ask for specific actions, you'll see how committed she is to R.

Now is the time to think clearly and to present your requirements with vigor and precision. It's time for a drink only if that drink is filtered water.