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User Topic: Maintaining nc.. just want opinions on sperm donor's emails
She11ybeanz
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Shutup  Posted: 1:30 PM, October 15th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

So... as you all know, I discovered MOW's email from back on April 1st in the "other" inbox on Facebook (of which I did not know existed until I tried to sell some baby items on one of the pages) and also discovered the following 2 emails from Piper's sperm donor from 3/30/13 (ironically close to MOW's email.....)

I did not know of the existence of either of these emails until recently (over 6 months later) and am kinda glad because it makes NC SOOO much easier! It would have been too tempting to break it back then....but I'm glad I didn't find them until now.

Here is what he sent (please pardon the grammatical errors of which I did NOT correct....I left it as it was sent... you might want some Tylenol before reading this...

Conversation started March 30

3/30, 2:48am

Hurts me that u blocked me...i wanna set things right i was in a very bad place...got a very nice place good job and got my taxes back 1350.00 please ur the mother of my child...ill give u whole check if u want...all i want in return is u come over one day for 10 mins to let me explain and have a cup of coffee with u thats it...if after we talk and get closure or hopefully workout something ehither way i promise u ill never call or text me again...pleaze....i need this so does ur daughter im ready finally going to meetings every nite and. Having support groups...ive got 60 days as of today clean and sober feeling great signed up for richmond marathon...im in good place if u dont feel comfortsble in my apt we can meet at coffee shop...thats fine...just want u to see how good im living and we hav pool...id even be cool with making u a key if we can come to agreement...got 60 inch flat and ps3 with blu ray hd tv whole nine...i wake every morning thing about what ive done and i cant look myself in the eyes....i knw i deserve it but lets make this right...im not saying we should do snything but be nice and mybe one day be friends...balls in ur court if u decline my offer for help and father fr piper i promise ill be out of ur life forever....ill always love u no matter what

March 30

3/30, 10:49pm
Ur not even woman enough to take 1000 dollars. From me for cofee.....wow...ur a c&c runner i told my ex-best friend i never want to speak to him again....cant say that to u cause ur my kids mom

Sent from Mobile

WOW... just wow.

Please note the TIMES of these emails... which is my proof that he is IN FACT drunk while writing them and not in recovery at all! He predictably drinks until the wee hours of the night and goes to bed at like 7pm in the evening when sober. Just sayin.

Also take note that his "offer" of giving me his whole tax check of $1,350 went down to $1,000 in the 2nd email!!! Typical!

Thoughts/comments?!

[This message edited by She11ybeanz at 1:33 PM, October 15th (Tuesday)]


"Sometimes your knight in shining armor ...is just a douchebag in tin foil!!"

ME - BW - 35
HIM - XWH - 39
D day: November 15th, 2009
Married: 5 Years, together 8
Divorced: December 13th, 2010
New Beginning: Piper/8-3-12


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Williesmom
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Default  Posted: 1:42 PM, October 15th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Wow. A 60 inch flat screen and a ps3. What is he, 12 years old?

Jagoff.


You can stuff your sorries in a sack, mister. -George Costanza
There is a special place in hell for women who don't help other women. - Madeleine Albright

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She11ybeanz
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Default  Posted: 1:46 PM, October 15th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Wow. A 60 inch flat screen and a ps3. What is he, 12 years old?
Jagoff.

YUP! A 12 year old trapped in a 38 year old's body!!! He lived in his mommy's basement for the 10+ years after his divorce and while we dated and only recently got an apartment (that I would bet his mom is paying for). So, he is trying to "PLAY" an adult right now....

I could give a crap less about his toys. Jackass.


"Sometimes your knight in shining armor ...is just a douchebag in tin foil!!"

ME - BW - 35
HIM - XWH - 39
D day: November 15th, 2009
Married: 5 Years, together 8
Divorced: December 13th, 2010
New Beginning: Piper/8-3-12


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sparkysable
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Default  Posted: 2:54 PM, October 15th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

id even be cool with making u a key if we can come to agreement...
Translation? He's throwing the line out there looking to see if he can catch a booty call.


D-day OW#1 2/2004; R for 6 years; D-day OW#2 5/2010

Marriages that start this way, stepping over the bodies of loved ones as the giddy couple walks down the aisle, are not likely to last.


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She11ybeanz
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Revenge  Posted: 3:08 PM, October 15th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Translation? He's throwing the line out there looking to see if he can catch a booty call.

Oh....Most definitely! We both agreed before we ever broke up that we were both the best the other had ever had... BUT....it isn't worth the drama that comes along with it! I will stick with Duracell ...Thanks. Year and a half...happily on the bus!

He tried for the LONGEST time after I broke up with him to pull the FWB card....and I was tempted at first....because I had gone 8 long years before I met him with the worst (and shortest ) sex of my life with XWH...to meeting the literal male version of the energizer bunny in bed.....BUT....I digress....AND got over it. Too complicated and I didn't want to confuse Piper when she got older...

[This message edited by She11ybeanz at 3:11 PM, October 15th (Tuesday)]


"Sometimes your knight in shining armor ...is just a douchebag in tin foil!!"

ME - BW - 35
HIM - XWH - 39
D day: November 15th, 2009
Married: 5 Years, together 8
Divorced: December 13th, 2010
New Beginning: Piper/8-3-12


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HurtsButImOK
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Default  Posted: 3:11 PM, October 15th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

wait, what?

Doesn't he only pay like $65 a month CS? Nice that he has a great job, lives in a nice place and can buy expensive toys. What about his daughter and her wellbeing?? His priorities are seriously messed up.

If you can take the $1k (without selling your soul and opening a can of crap best done without)for Piper's benefit I would be considering it.


Me: Awesome - 35.... ummm, not anymore

"I’ve learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel". –Maya Angelou


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She11ybeanz
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Default  Posted: 3:31 PM, October 15th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(without selling your soul and opening a can of crap best done without)

Unfortunately, when it comes to him..... sign in blood here.....initial here and there.... and your can opener is at the end of the counter. You can't leave the table until you are finished .... Plus, I got his email like 6 months after he sent it....so he has definitely already blown it on video games, new toys, and beer by now!

No thank you. I'd rather be broke. If I tried to take him up on that offer...he would EXPECT something in return. He doesn't do nice things out of the kindness of his heart or even things he SHOULD BE doing anyway....like helping properly support his own child!

Doesn't he only pay like $65 a month CS? Nice that he has a great job, lives in a nice place and can buy expensive toys. What about his daughter and her wellbeing?? His priorities are seriously messed up.

Yeah...apparently he told my sister that he is starving to death...living off Ramen noodles barely surviving he is so broke.... but he then turns around and brags about how he has gained 65 pounds of muscle and weighs like 240lbs now and is a mega bodybuilder (XWH flashback... who was a huge weightlifter). Now granted....this was many months ago...so he could have wasted away to nothing by now....

Its probably more like 20 pounds of muscle and 45 pounds of beer gut from all the alcohol I KNOW he is consuming....

What an ass. I can't believe I went there.

I just look at my daughter....smile and remind myself that she is my blessing and the ONLY reason God brought that jackoff into my life....

[This message edited by She11ybeanz at 3:40 PM, October 15th (Tuesday)]


"Sometimes your knight in shining armor ...is just a douchebag in tin foil!!"

ME - BW - 35
HIM - XWH - 39
D day: November 15th, 2009
Married: 5 Years, together 8
Divorced: December 13th, 2010
New Beginning: Piper/8-3-12


Posts: 2732 | Registered: Feb 2010 | From: Virginia
HurtsButImOK
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Default  Posted: 3:50 PM, October 15th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

What an ass. I can't believe I went there.

At least you got good sex and the wonderful Piper out of the deal

Only memories of bad sex here for the last decade and a half


Me: Awesome - 35.... ummm, not anymore

"I’ve learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel". –Maya Angelou


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She11ybeanz
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Default  Posted: 3:58 PM, October 15th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Yeah...I figured what his talents were:

He was good at making good-looking babies! He has 3. A 13 year old daughter, 11 year old son, and 14 month old Piper....and they are all gorgeous kids!

The sex was good. I will give him that much. And, he awakened inside of me something that I thought was completely dead! Desire....like real desire.. and the ability to ENJOY sex again! I used to hate sex with XWH.... it was like a commercial break.... short, annoying, and highly frustrating (since I never had an O in my M)

So, I thank sperm donor for making me realize that there is nothing wrong with me! I found out I LOVE sex...and miss it very much... but not enough to take on the drama pile too!

And, Piper was well worth everything he put me through! She is my sweetums!

[This message edited by She11ybeanz at 3:59 PM, October 15th (Tuesday)]


"Sometimes your knight in shining armor ...is just a douchebag in tin foil!!"

ME - BW - 35
HIM - XWH - 39
D day: November 15th, 2009
Married: 5 Years, together 8
Divorced: December 13th, 2010
New Beginning: Piper/8-3-12


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SBB
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Default  Posted: 8:41 AM, October 16th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Wow. Just wow.

Delete this PM and MOWs. Block and report their fake FB accounts (I assume that is how they were able to get around you blocking their actual FB accounts).

In fact I'd be tempted to change the settings so only your friends can send you messages. Bit hard if you're selling stuff though...

I note there is no mention of spending time with Piper OR of doing a single fucking thing to help you raise her.

Keep walking away from this train wreck. Check out the seismic shift in just 8 hours. What a bloody nutjob. I can almost smell the booze from all the way over here.


I may have reached a point where I'd piss on him if he was on fire.... eventually!!

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She11ybeanz
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Default  Posted: 9:31 AM, October 16th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(I assume that is how they were able to get around you blocking their actual FB accounts).

MOW used an alternate email address and sperm donor made a fake FB account. Done and done. Both blocked.

I note there is no mention of spending time with Piper OR of doing a single fucking thing to help you raise her.

Whenever he DOES try to contact me or anyone I know he NEVER asks about her. He only asks about me. He's a jackoff.

Keep walking away from this train wreck. Check out the seismic shift in just 8 hours. What a bloody nutjob. I can almost smell the booze from all the way over here.

He was able to get his Child support (with his ex-wife for his 2 other children) reduced in court by saying that he had been medically diagnosed with bipolar disease and he is unemployed. I believe it. Compiled with his binge-drinking....what a lovely personality combination!!


"Sometimes your knight in shining armor ...is just a douchebag in tin foil!!"

ME - BW - 35
HIM - XWH - 39
D day: November 15th, 2009
Married: 5 Years, together 8
Divorced: December 13th, 2010
New Beginning: Piper/8-3-12


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gahurts
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Default  Posted: 10:46 AM, October 16th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

IDK She11y, I am definately in the minority opinion here. I've read many/most of your threads and some of them just really make me feel uncomfortable.

I am trying to be as gentle as I can and believe me I want you to do what is best for you and your daughter.

I am really torn about the hard stance you take against Piper's father and his mother and your mother but then get upset because nobody is involved in her life. I recognize big time that you have been hurt. Badly. And the advice here is always to NC and 180 and push the toxic people out of your life so you can heal. But I was taught that you get the good with the bad and sometime you have to put up with some crap for the sake of what is best for the children. I've swallowed a lot of pain so that my children can grow up healthy and happy. I know this because I already made those mistakes with my older two and I've seen how it affected them and that my actions against their mother contributed to the issues they had. Sure I was hurt. But you know what. They deserve two parents who work together or at least give an appearance of being cordial for their (the children's) sake.

I do not in any way mean that you should accept being walked all over or taken advantage of. But you control access. You control when and how they see Piper. And you are entitled to financial support to make sure she has what she needs.

I don't feel it is right to exclude him from her life no matter how much of an asshole he is unless he is a danger to her or if he signed away his rights. And I think you should force him to pay you more. Didn't you say he was accepted as a firefighter? Go after him for more CS.

His offer for $1300 - call him on it. Call him on the original amount and make sure he knows that you see through his tricks. Make him be responsible for his role in your baby's life. You should not have to do it by yourself but you do have to maintain control and make sure everything happens in a way that you are comfortable and your requirements are being met.

I am very sorry if I overstepped. This just bothers me and we do have an underlying standard here of NC but sometimes NC doesn't quite provide the best answer IMHO.


"Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indominable will" - Mahatma Gandi

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." - Aubrie


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InnerLight
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Default  Posted: 11:31 AM, October 16th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

If I hadn't watched a couple years of the crazy this man put Shelly thru I would agree with you, GA. And I wish I could now. But I think in this case NC is sadly the best path. These emails illustrate just the tip of the insanity iceberg. I do think he would be a danger to Shelly and Piper. Maybe not physically, but certainly mentally. Unfortunately, not all parents add benefit to their kids lives.

If he could show he could add benefit to Piper that would be different but he doesn't. He would just break her heart too.


BS, now age 54, d-day 6-2-08, divorced after 17 years M and 20 together. In some ways I have not 'gotten over it'. But I am resilient and have created a good life where I am mostly happy.

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She11ybeanz
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Default  Posted: 1:16 PM, October 16th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I don't feel it is right to exclude him from her life no matter how much of an asshole he is unless he is a danger to her or if he signed away his rights. And I think you should force him to pay you more. Didn't you say he was accepted as a firefighter? Go after him for more CS.

You didn't overstep your bounds, but I don't think you have read all of my threads regarding her father either. He has CHOSEN on his OWN accord to not be a part of her life. He only contacted me that one time from an "other" email and if you notice didn't once ask about her or talk about how he wanted to see her. He just wanted to talk to me. He desperately wants me to take him back and be in a toxic relationship with him again and I refuse to do it.

He knows where I live, he has my phone number, my email address, etc...and I have chosen not to block him from contacting me because if he truly wanted to see his daughter, I would let him. He has not contacted me since the Spring! I live 15 minutes away from him. His mother made it VERY clear at the Social Services office when she outright refused to hold Piper that she wanted nothing to do with her. I'm not going to force these toxic people to be a part of her life nor encourage it. If they can't grow up and contact me and tell me that they wish to see her, than that is on them and not me. I do not feel guilty for protecting my daughter and doing what I believe to be in her best interest. But, I have also not once...kept him from seeing her when he wanted to. He used to see her regularly the 1st 4 months of her life....and then he just stopped. On his own.

I do think that in this case that NC is the best option and to be honest, HE initiated it. Not me. I'm just reiterating it. He can't just come in and out of her life whenever he chooses. That's not right and not healthy either.

And, he hasn't gotten hired as a County Fireman YET. He is in the academy and it is highly likely that either A. He won't finish and will drop out. B. He is lying about it. or C. They will run a background check, find out he got fired as a County Sheriff's deputy and won't get hired as a result. I have Social Services monitoring his Social Security number and if he gets a paycheck, then I can file to have CS increased, but until then, they told me there is nothing I can do.

His offer for $1300 - call him on it. Call him on the original amount and make sure he knows that you see through his tricks. Make him be responsible for his role in your baby's life. You should not have to do it by yourself but you do have to maintain control and make sure everything happens in a way that you are comfortable and your requirements are being met.

I really do appreciate your thoughts on this and I understand where you are coming from. Unfortunately, calling him out on the 1,300 is basically the equivalent of calling out a 7 year old on a pink elephant they told you is hiding in their closet. You both know it doesn't exist.... and it will just be an hour out of your life lost arguing over it. He has proven time and time again that he is a pathological liar and this was just a tactic to try to lure me out to talk to him. He has done this sort of thing before. It just didn't work THIS time. To give you an idea.... he told me he was a Marine, a cage fighter, a police officer, a black belt in ju jitsu etc etc. He was never a Marine, a cage fighter, dropped out of the police academy, but ended up in the sheriff's department instead, and isn't even a white belt.

He likes to build himself up and put on the "Wizard of OZ behind the curtain look-at-me" act and I am finally seeing through him to the tiny little old man pulling the strings that he really is. I don't want to play his games anymore. I'm over him. And, my daughter and I deserve better.

[This message edited by She11ybeanz at 1:56 PM, October 16th (Wednesday)]


"Sometimes your knight in shining armor ...is just a douchebag in tin foil!!"

ME - BW - 35
HIM - XWH - 39
D day: November 15th, 2009
Married: 5 Years, together 8
Divorced: December 13th, 2010
New Beginning: Piper/8-3-12


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She11ybeanz
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If he could show he could add benefit to Piper that would be different but he doesn't. He would just break her heart too.

I agree with you here. I watched as he neglected his 13 year old daughter....never spending time with her because she was a "girl" and only spend time with his 11 year old son because he could play Xbox with him for "quality time." His daughter would spend her time with his mother upstairs for the duration of their 1 time a week 2 hour visit.

I question if he could be physically violent and I think its possible. He threatened to kill himself a couple of times... said he had a rifle... he threw a beer can at a wall when I was pregnant and told him that I wouldn't marry him. He called me "F-ing stupid" a bunch of times. If anything...he was very emotionally abusive.... and the drinking made it worse. I just know that he is not a good person and he doesn't care about Piper. He told me in an email in February that he didn't want to be a part of her life. He SAID he didn't want to see her.

The thought of her one day sitting on a doorstep crying because he decided to bail on her for a visit breaks my heart...


"Sometimes your knight in shining armor ...is just a douchebag in tin foil!!"

ME - BW - 35
HIM - XWH - 39
D day: November 15th, 2009
Married: 5 Years, together 8
Divorced: December 13th, 2010
New Beginning: Piper/8-3-12


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She11ybeanz
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gahurts...

I do want to say that I appreciate a difference of opinion and I know that you are coming from a "good" place of good intentions in the best possible way! I think you weren't around a lot when I was with Ex-SO (sperm donor) so you didn't get to hear a lot of what I went through with him. My SI Peeps hit me upside the head with many a 2x4 to finally get up the inner strength to leave him. It took my little Piper to wake me up and realize that it wasn't just about me anymore.

I totally agree with you that it would be optimal for a child to have both parents. I remember weeping thinking about how lucky I was to have both of my parents growing up (even though my mom went to have an A and they are D now) when I was going through my own. If he wanted to be a part of her life or if I thought he would be good for her, I would not stand in the way, but his family as well as him want nothing to do with her. So, we have moved on. I wish things were different .....but those are the life cards we have been dealt.


"Sometimes your knight in shining armor ...is just a douchebag in tin foil!!"

ME - BW - 35
HIM - XWH - 39
D day: November 15th, 2009
Married: 5 Years, together 8
Divorced: December 13th, 2010
New Beginning: Piper/8-3-12


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gahurts
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Shelly,

I am very sorry. No I wasn't on the boards when you were with him. When I first started reading your posts you were fairly far along in your pregnancy. I normally bite my tounge but this one was really bothering me for some reason. I really feel for you and your DD and the struggles you are having right now.

He knows where I live, he has my phone number, my email address, etc...and I have chosen not to block him from contacting me because if he truly wanted to see his daughter, I would let him. He has not contacted me since the Spring! I live 15 minutes away from him.

OK This makes a huge difference. My step-sons' father lived 20 minutes away from us when the boys were growing up yet he only visited them 2 or 3 times over 6 years. If he is willfully pulling himself away from Piper then screw him. You are right. She does not need that kid of hurt in her life. He is the one who is missing out. Not her.

I have to retract my comments. It does indeed sound like you ar emaking the best choices for both of you. And yes, I meant all of my post in a caring way, now as a 2x4 to create drama.


"Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indominable will" - Mahatma Gandi

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." - Aubrie


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She11ybeanz
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Default  Posted: 8:23 PM, October 16th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((gahurts))) I actually got teary-eyed reading your response.

OK This makes a huge difference. My step-sons' father lived 20 minutes away from us when the boys were growing up yet he only visited them 2 or 3 times over 6 years. If he is willfully pulling himself away from Piper then screw him. You are right. She does not need that kid of hurt in her life. He is the one who is missing out. Not her.

I have to retract my comments. It does indeed sound like you ar emaking the best choices for both of you. And yes, I meant all of my post in a caring way, now as a 2x4 to create drama.



It was really hard for me to finally come to the internal acceptance that Piper's father didn't want to be a part of her life. I mean...who wouldn't want to be a part of such an adorable, gorgeous, cute, funny, bald sweetheart like my daughter?? Right??
But, apparently he doesn't care. His mother doesn't care and his father doesn't care. None of them do. I still, to this day, cannot quite grasp an understanding for it. I can't wrap my head around how people can turn their backs on their own children and grandchildren. But, I suppose, I just fell into the HUGE statistic that is widespread in the United States today. He is the epitome of what a "deadbeat dad" truly is.

There are so many dads out there who get a bad wrap and are called that....but actually do want to be in their children's lives and make the effort to do so. But, he doesn't even ask about her. He didn't care when she was in my tummy.... and even after holding her and looking into those big anime' brown eyes of hers... he still doesn't care about her. So, she and I are living our lives like I am the mommy and the daddy.... and my sister has helped raise her. She watches her while I work full-time. She is a very blessed little girl.

One day.... he will "have to pay the piper" .... in more ways than one!

I'm embarrassed to even admit that I was ever with such a horrible person...... but I was broken when I met him.... and I honestly don't think that "at the time" I deserved better. Now I KNOW I do... we both do. Someday we will meet an amazing man.... who will love and accept both of us. Just have to be patient!

I'm glad you didn't have to be witnessed to all I went through with douchebag... it was NOT pretty!


"Sometimes your knight in shining armor ...is just a douchebag in tin foil!!"

ME - BW - 35
HIM - XWH - 39
D day: November 15th, 2009
Married: 5 Years, together 8
Divorced: December 13th, 2010
New Beginning: Piper/8-3-12


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Default  Posted: 9:13 AM, October 18th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I just left my WH and I am getting similar things. I haven't gotten any angry ones yet but I do expect them. There has been a lot of "please don't let me feel the hurt of not having you and the boys" and "i will give you all the time you need and leave you alone, just let me know how the boys are." He's been using our boys to get to me a lot. I hate that! "For the sake of your daughter" Ugh! Should have been thinking about that before HE screwed up. I love how they always place the blame on you after you leave. Like you are the one who broke up the family. Nope, sorry that's all on THEM!


Me BS 31
Him WS 34 Trying4change
Together 3 years, married for one
D-day: 07/23/13 cybersex with COW
D-day: 12/27/13 found out he met and kissed a "friend" in 2011
"A clear and innocent conscience fears nothing."

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