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User Topic: Balancing remorse and honest strength
NoGoodUsername
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Default  Posted: 5:45 PM, October 21st (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

There is a struggle that I am having and I'm not quite sure how to handle this. It's not really something that I see people talking about around here but I'm sure that I can't be the only one dealing with this.

Essentially, it is a matter of figuring out how to embrace and work through this soul-crushing remorse and own what I did to my wife, marriage and myself while also working on ways to be authentically good and strong and build honest measures of self esteem.

I cognitively realize that these two categories are complementary to one another in the long term but figuring out how to work both sides at the same time is stumping me.

Building things about me and in my life to take legitimate self-esteem from is going to be part of what I must do in order to get away from my problems of external validation and all of the charismatic overlays that I used for so long. Also, if our marriage is going to survive, my wife needs to see something in me worth her interest.

At the same time, I am committed to having the full emotional experience of the wrongs that I have done. Living the pain of what I have done to us; grieving the loss of what I had with my beloved wife and really working to understand her feelings about the ways I betrayed her are part of the process of healing and growing.

How the in the world does one build honest worthiness while looking your own unworthiness in the face?
There is only so long that you can declare your faults and cry mea culpa before that becomes the narrative for both of you. By the same token, moving on to build the "new you" without delving the badness that you are trying to expunge is just a matter of trying to plant a new garden on top of a cesspool.

I know, there are no magic answers. I just needed to get it out for a moment. I wish that I had never done this. All that I want out of life any more is to be worthy of the love of my wife, cats and myself. Everything else is gravy.


Me: WH
Her: BW
Dday 7/11/13
"May you be protected from hearts that are not humble, tongues that are not wise and eyes that have forgotten how to cry."

Posts: 261 | Registered: Aug 2013
LosferWords
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Default  Posted: 6:59 PM, October 21st (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I think "balance" is definitely a key word here. Showing remorse and building yourself into a healthy person can be difficult, balance-wise, especially near the beginning.

Another thing to be careful of is toxic shame and self flagellation. We can be remorseful, and yet at the same time not call our selves names or look upon ourselves as useless.

What are the plans you have so far to build the "new you"?


There will come a time, you'll see, with no more tears. And love will not break your heart, but dismiss your fears.

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Joanh
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Default  Posted: 7:10 PM, October 21st (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

The self condemnation it probably the hardest. I knowfor me I already saw and felt shame from my past and feel worthless, then I added all the shame and guilt and the remorse now, and to find the ability to say its okay to build myself backup and not beat myself up is a struggle. I started a grateful diary, and I try to remind myself I am worthy and I deserve to be loved and to love the best I can be. I have programed it into my phone , just to remind me incase I get into a slump. I don't expect my BH to do it for me. This time its all
on me.
There is a lot of times, I want to build the self esteem and the guilt will beatme down. I have saying and quotes around the house to help remind me, I am growing and building for today and tomorrow. I can't do anything about a minute ago. But I am worthy of the next minute.
Hope you can find your way.


BH 39
WW 43
D day November 9, 2012
3 children 22, 8, 6
Just....

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breakingpoint
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Default  Posted: 8:05 PM, October 21st (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

One thing to think about is that you A is not who you are. People are complex. We are not good or bad (most of us). We are a pile of hurts, wounds, but also grace and love.

The same part of you that was hurt (which led to selfish coping) is still hurt but can choose to deal with pain in a healthy way.

The way to gain honest strength IS to face the bad choices we have made. By facing the bad, you grow, you change for the better. It may look like a big ole mess in the process, but the product of a healed (or forever healing person) is a healthy, strong, and honest person.

These things aren't mutually exclusive. One births the other.

If that makes sense.


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erzulie
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Content  Posted: 8:33 PM, October 21st (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

NoGoodUserName ... I don't have any great wisdoms to share with you, unfortunately. But I felt compelled to post.

Your words were very moving to me. There is a deep sincerity that is apparent to me, and it takes a HUGE amount of courage to put forth the energy to understand what has gone on with yourself as well as with your wife.

I am a betrayed wife. I would have given a right arm to hear my WH adopt even an ounce of the introspection that you summarized in your post.

I wish you the very best of luck in your journey.


A saying for my SI Family: "We may not have it all together, but together we have it all".

Fooled twice - almost exactly 10 years apart.


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NoGoodUsername
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Default  Posted: 9:18 PM, October 21st (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

LosferWords- Like with all of us, it's a combination of removing behaviors and adding better ones. I'm going to be succinct because it's bedtime and my wife is waiting for me.

No more flirtation, no more grand gestures that make me look cooler than I am.
Drawing boundaries with everyone but my wife and I on the outside. Those are the no-brainers.

Figuring out ways to have simple self-esteem is harder. We've been doing a lot of work on the house in preparation for sale. The work has been good and pretty. It is making a more attractive place in the world through the work of my hands and it will directly benefit us in the sale of the house. Supporting my wife's design and vision with my own contributions is hard-earned and real.

I've been a martial artist my entire adult life and it is very important to me. After we move, I'm going to find a dojo and start from the beginning. No teaching, no tournaments, no flash. Just quiet work and getting back to basics.

Taking all the time in the world to do things with my wife. My job has been given boundaries and they will be followed.
There are other things, but it is time to go in to bed.

Thanks to everyone who replied. See you tomorrow.


Me: WH
Her: BW
Dday 7/11/13
"May you be protected from hearts that are not humble, tongues that are not wise and eyes that have forgotten how to cry."

Posts: 261 | Registered: Aug 2013
LosferWords
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Default  Posted: 8:20 AM, October 22nd (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

NoGoodUsername - What you have listed so far sounds really great. I see a lot of actions and a lot of fundamental changes going on. You seem to have the right attitude, too. Keep it up, man.


There will come a time, you'll see, with no more tears. And love will not break your heart, but dismiss your fears.

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Stayingstrong15
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Default  Posted: 4:33 PM, October 24th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

This is what I tell my husband who betrayed me ... I hate what you did ... I do not hate you. It's the act's that are hated.please remember this. You can be better and time proves this. Sometimes longer than you hope for but it will happen. Decide who u want to be and be that. Every day. No matter what. Peace will come from that. Remember it is not you but the actions and you can change the actions.

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