My husband and I were different. He had never cheated, he was an amazing husband for the then 20 years we had been married.
It was initially very easy for me to believe the little lies I told myself, to believe he hadn't gone through a transformation and become someone I didn't know...and couldn't trust.
The day after dday he lied, the OW lied, collectively they had their game plan if they got caught. I believed it, why wouldn't I? He was always honest, we were so happy and our life was near picture perfect.
I would have come to SI, told my story, inserted all the "yeah buts" where my husband was different, where we were not the same as the other 40,000 SI members. I probably would have said some smart-mouth parting message, closed my laptop and said a big FU to everyone who doesn't know me or my situation.
And I would have been wrong and missed out on all of the opportunities SI has afforded me.
I allowed myself to see the truth, the broken pieces in me, in him that made up my marriage and we went to work on it. It gave me relief to finally have a plan and a knowing that although it's broken now, if we do what we need to and face our issues we can fix it, we can get it back on track.
I know your pain, I feel it in the posts I read, I cringe when a member takes what someone says to be as hurtful, non-supportive or mean. I know the anger is more about hurt.
Recently there have been a few posts on not being supportive, or the wrong advice given.
If you feel that way at anytime, I understand. The BS has to take time to see what is really in front of them just like a WS has to see what they have done.
We all come to help and guide members, we all have a special story and we are all unique. Unfortunately most of our stories have similar backgrounds.
I was the puddle on the floor. I cried in the shower so nobody could see how weak and afraid I was to look into the dark places.
I didn't want anyone to tell me truths about my husband, how could they? How dare they?
They could because they were also married to my husband. The lies, the stories, the false hope and bullshit. They had all seen it before me, walked through these halls before I even arrived.
So now we stand in these same halls and we see your pain coming in through the door, we feel the pain in your posts, we know where you are coming from and usually can tell you what the next step will be.
Not because we are smarter, but because we have seen it, lived through it and have seen countless others do the same.
There is a wisdom here that you can't find in a book or on the street.We are all getting our Phd's in infidelity and the aftermath and have the ability to show others the way.
So when you want to believe it couldn't be, you want to know it's different, your story isn't normal, you want to be angry at us for saying what we believe to be truth, just know it's ok. We understand.
But also know, when the light shines through and you see a different truth, start to want different answers, find strength and live authentically we will still be here.
Not angry because you doubted us or had choice words thrown our way. We will be here to comfort you through the revelations, throw f bombs when the WS's don't get it and cheer you on when you need us.
Because right now, when there is nothing but pain and you are on the bathroom floor wishing, hoping for it to all go away...we are lying right beside you and we will help you get up, when you are ready.
And when you are ready, know that all the advice is given with the best intentions, but from the experience of the advisor. You take what you can use and leave the rest...someone else may be able to use it.
[This message edited by karmahappens at 3:53 PM, October 31st (Thursday)]
Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic.
Don't fuck with me, I fuck back.
Is that normal? I am always afraid to walk away and one morning wake up and regret.
Not sure yet what is necessary to do.
Happy for you. You seem to be in a better place. It takes time ... I know
Each of us is unique, each of our stories is unique in it's own way but the circumstances that brought us all here are unfortunately very common and the combined experience and wisdom on these boards is a great resource for people looking to survive infidelity.
I've read many posts from people who say it took them a long time to see the truth and support in the responses they initially objected to, but I've never seen 'I told you so.' It's always been, 'OK, you had to learn for yourself. Here's the support I can offer you now....'
Changing your mind is no crime on SI.
There is a wisdom here that you can't find in a book or on the street.We are all getting our Phd's in infidelity
..i've said it before..
" This site should be required reading in high school."
..good post karma!
Me -BS (49)
DS 21, DD 17
I admit to being one of the PITA BS'. I never wanted 'what should I do' advice. I blazed my own trail, so to speak. Most of my posts were regurgitations of conversations with (now)stbx followed with an "I got this, I'm just gonna see where it goes".... Well, guess what. It ALWAYS went *exactly* where the SI'ers predicted it would.
I would have saved myself a whole ton of brain and emotional damage if I would have had a different attitude at the time. I do have to point out, though, that there are people that wrote me off and weren't there for me when I *finally* came around. But, TBH, I totally deserved it. (I really was an idiot.) OTOH, there are so many that are *still* in my corner.....
To reinforce your point, karma......we've *been* there. we *get* it. Register, post, get pissed when you don't hear what you want to hear......and always, always feel welcome to come back when life blows up again. The feet may be held to the fire....but there are plenty of hugs and no 'I told you so's'.
In my effort to be *concise*, I often come off as blunt and harsh. Sorry, don't mean to be offensive.
This is it. The darkest day. The blackest hour. Chin up, shoulders back. Let's see what we're made of, you and I.
― The Doctor
And live by the sea
What about the past. How can we let go the past
The past doesn't need to go away IMO. It serves a purpose in making us who we eventually become. I really think, for me, I had to pick apart traumas, events and issues to see how they affected me and make peace with them.
As you said, there is a lot of time involved. Lots of anger, tears, talking, patience and hope.
An M doesn't always survive. But soon after dday when you are on the initial crazy train isn't a time to make decisions. Continue with your healing. When you are ready to commit to a decision you will know.
And again, thanks to everyone for the support. I know I can come here and toss anything on the table and get back some real truth and help.
[This message edited by karmahappens at 11:42 PM, October 31st (Thursday)]