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 Chrysalis123 (original poster member #27148) posted at 7:50 PM on Saturday, November 2nd, 2013

What do you know about this??

Thanks

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ZooMa ( new member #11152) posted at 8:37 PM on Saturday, November 2nd, 2013

I eat Paleo! Best thing I have ever done. I am Gluten Intolerant and tried the gluten free thing. Processed foods and rice/grain products are not the answer! I healed faster and feel better than ever in my life eating this way. Plus, I dropped 30lbs without even trying.

What Paleo is~ No grains, sugars, legumes,(beans, soy, peanuts) alcohol & I limit my dairy to hard aged cheeses and stonyfield plain whole yogurt. Some people don't do any dairy.

No processed or packaged foods. Everything has soy, hfcs, or gluten in it anyway.

I eat meat, eggs, veggies, fruit, nuts & seeds.

Like the Caveman did. That is what we are supposed to eat, not all of this crap they put in our food.

Eat. Real. Food.

So, without all of this crud in my system? I no longer have allergies, colitis, eczema, headaches and the list goes on...

Best thing I ever did and I will never go back.

I will cheat a couple times a month and drink hard cider.

Tried to cheat with rice or corn and I suffered, so that's a no no for me.

Are you going to try it? I've been paleo for over a year but, went real strict last July. Anything you want to know, just ask! Everyone should eat this way!!

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 Chrysalis123 (original poster member #27148) posted at 8:54 PM on Saturday, November 2nd, 2013

Thanks for the reply. I am thinking of trying it, and am reading a book about it. I am easing into this week.

Do you make special recipes? Or just eat whole natural foods?

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ZooMa ( new member #11152) posted at 9:34 PM on Saturday, November 2nd, 2013

Great!! I do both :) We eat a lot of meat and veggies. I have tried the cauliflower pizza and it was great. We eat a lot of spaghetti squash, kale, cabbage, spinach & sweet potatoes, always looking for a new way to do the veggies. I cook everything I eat at home (because gluten makes me violently ill for weeks)

In fact, there is no gluten allowed in my home.

Are you on Pinterest? Tons of Paleo recipes on there.

That's where I get most of my recipes. Search Paleo or Caveman and start following boards.

Also, I forgot to mention, you need to change your oils.

Extra virgin coconut oil is amazing, I use it to cook with (it can take high heat) and I use it in place of butter. Also, on my skin and make my own toothpaste.

I use olive oil raw, on salads. I have one of those misto sprayers for the olive oil. Works great.

You can use nut oils or avocado oil.

Sweeteners, I use local honey and real maple syrup.

Organic brown sugar if I need to bake a cake or something.

Use almond flour or coconut flours for baking.

I try to eat as much organic as possible. Produce isn't always exciting in the winter. Luckily, we have a wonderful butcher in town, excellent fresh meat and fresh bacon (<which I live on, btw. lol)

You really have to read those labels on grocery store meat!! They put crud in there. Natural flavors, msg, soy, ect. Stay away from the packaged stuff.

Eat 4-6 small meals a day. It's "grazing" like the caveman did. I like to eat this way. I listen to my body and eat what I want, when I want.

Do you have health issues?

Does your book mention a detox? I was very sick when I started. I did the SCD intro diet to get myself off the sugar and other grains I was still eating.

When I cook, I always cook extra protein. There is always something in my fridge ready to eat. Keep fruit, cooked protein, hard boiled eggs ect.

Use nut butters in place of peanut butter. Almond butter and sun butter (sunflower seeds) are excellent.

I'm so excited for you!!

You are going to feel better than ever!

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meaniemouse ( member #10798) posted at 2:55 AM on Sunday, November 3rd, 2013

So glad you started this thread, Chrysalis.

I've heard about this from people who saying eating this way has changed their life and they feel and look better than they ever have before.

I would love to do both (feel better and look better) but I'm not sure how to get started. This would be a RADICAL change for me since I have a horrible diet and am addicted to sugar.

ZooMa--do you have any suggestions for someone just starting out? Especially someone who is notoriously low on willpower, with a short attention span and needs immediate gratification?? Is it hopeless for me?

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 Chrysalis123 (original poster member #27148) posted at 3:04 AM on Sunday, November 3rd, 2013

I don't have health issues. Thanks for all the great info.

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Sad in AZ ( member #24239) posted at 3:08 AM on Sunday, November 3rd, 2013

I think the cavemen died very young and had many of the same diseases that modern humans have, including cancer.

Just my 2 cents.

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circe ( member #6687) posted at 3:30 AM on Sunday, November 3rd, 2013

I think the cavemen died very young and had many of the same diseases that modern humans have, including cancer.

Yep, and we already know that actual paleolithic "cavemen" didn't eat what is sold as "the paleo diet", so it's all a wash.

But even though the "paleo" sales pitch behind the diet is wrong, any diet that has you giving up sugar and processed foods generally works. Most of the weight loss is seen in the beginning, and maintained in the first couple of years. Like any way of eating, once your body gets efficient with the nutrition you're giving it, you might have to switch it up a bit to maintain any loss.

In our family we have two celiac sufferers, and one child who had a neurological disorder that was kept in check by a very low carb diet. Our entire family ate that way for years with mixed health results. Initially DH and I lost weight. Over the years, without any change in diet, without eating sugar or alcohol or starch or grain, we both came back to our pre-diet weight, though our stomachs are still flat. Our family doctor says this is the normal pattern.

We still of course eat gluten free and will forever because of the family allergies, but we've incorporated some things like sweet potato and peanut butter and wine, and oddly our weight shifted back down with the new additions. I actually think except for the nuts and wine that we're accidentally eating fairly close to what is sold as the 'paleo' diet. It's fine.

I think it works best as a weight loss tool for people who are trying to kick the habit of eating sugar and processed foods. Those are the people who will see the most difference.

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ThoughtIKnewYa ( member #18449) posted at 3:34 AM on Sunday, November 3rd, 2013

I just posted this on another thread and thought it was appropriate here, too:

http://www.sott.net/article/268279-Its-official-Time-to-drop-hazardous-low-fat-guidelines

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TrustedHer ( member #23328) posted at 4:46 PM on Sunday, November 3rd, 2013

I think the cavemen died very young and had many of the same diseases that modern humans have, including cancer.

And what you think may not be supported by the facts, though it certainly is the "conventional wisdom".

When "civilization" started, via agriculture, about 10,000 years ago, there is some evidence lifespans shortened, and people became more sickly and shorter.

My problem with paleo is twofold. I'm addicted to carbs, and I travel for a living. I like the idea, but haven't been able to implement it for myself.

Take care of yourself. There's a great future out there. It won't come to you; you have to go to it.

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solus sto ( member #30989) posted at 5:48 PM on Sunday, November 3rd, 2013

I eat Paleo without the label. Lean protein, beans, veggies---and fruit in moderation. I just arrived at this way of eating by trial and error; I have ridiculous metabolism and can't eat more than 800-900 calories a day (to lose, and then to maintain)---so I have to make every calorie count. Eating Paleo permits this.

I have never felt better. It is the way my body likes to eat.

I don't think rigid adherence is necessary for most people. The cauliflower pizza is wonderful, but if you only eat pizza now and then, regular pizza isn't going to hurt most people in any way. For me, it does cause a problem---but most others have more leeway.

I do not buy into the rationale behind it. I think most diets have their own story or spin, and it's unnecessary.

Different bodies are different. If anything became apparent to me in my quest to lose 100 pounds, this was it.

It works for some people.

It doesn't for others.

If it works for you, you'll feel great.

If it doesn't, you'll find another way of eating.

For me, it's THE way to eat. It's not a diet. It's how I eat all the time, and have for almost 4 years (except for a brief flirtation with Starbucks and diet soda and an even shorter foray into the world of Halloween candy, this past week).

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Want2help ( member #20547) posted at 8:42 PM on Sunday, November 3rd, 2013

I love it.

For me it's all about lack of energy and terrible mental fog (not to be confused with "The Fog" spoken of in General, haha). Eliminating grains fixes this for me. Eliminating dairy fixes some gastrointestinal issues I have always dealt with.

I agree that it feels like the way my body was meant to eat, even if all I want is a big, fat, roll of sourdough bread.

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ninebark ( member #24534) posted at 12:48 PM on Tuesday, November 5th, 2013

I have been eating paleo for almost 2 years now and will never go back.

It started because I have a ton of digestive issues and have a dairy allergy.

It didn't take long into my food changes that I felt better. Now I rarely have any problems, I eat very healthy organic food and grain fed meats.

I have lost weight and have a ton of energy. And to top it off a lot of this was reccomended by my doctor. He didn't call it a paleo diet, but it pretty much is.

Oh I should mention I do a lot of paleo baking and cooking for my friends and family and they all love it.

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 Chrysalis123 (original poster member #27148) posted at 2:08 PM on Tuesday, November 5th, 2013

Thank you all for the great feedback. I am slowly trying this and have noticed I eat less and feel more full and already feeling less tired.

Someone I once loved gave me/ a box full of darkness/ It took me years to understand/ That this, too, was a gift. - Mary Oliver

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idkam ( member #18375) posted at 2:14 PM on Tuesday, November 5th, 2013

Hello all, can someone tell me what a typical day is like? What do you eat for breakfast, lunch, and dinner?

I've been reading more & more abt this lifestyle and the more i learn the more i lean towards it..

Please educate me..

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circe ( member #6687) posted at 5:00 PM on Tuesday, November 5th, 2013

And what you think may not be supported by the facts, though it certainly is the "conventional wisdom".

No, it's pretty well supported by science so far. At this point we know some of the viruses they carried around, how many cavities on average they had, and a lot of the different types of cancers they died from at various ages in some well preserved specimen. Bone density, proportion of grains and grasses they ate, stuff like that. Of course it depends on which environment they found themselves living in, like close to the ocean, savannah or forests, but it's pretty clear they ate a lot of grass grains when they had access to them.

I think refined foods and sugars are definitely great to cut out, and at least in our family, cutting something out and only eating it when the rare occasion presents itself is way easier than trying to moderate on a daily basis.

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GabyBaby ( member #26928) posted at 5:26 PM on Tuesday, November 5th, 2013

Hello all, can someone tell me what a typical day is like? What do you eat for breakfast, lunch, and dinner?

I'm similar to solus sto in that I dont necessarily label my way of eating as paleo, but it does mimic some of those principals.

Over the course of the last year and a half, I've noticed that when I keep my carbs at 150g or less per day, I feel better and am not bloated and tired. (If I am trying to lose weight, I drop my carbs to less than 50g per day and increase protein slightly and make the difference in my calories in fat. I usually end up eating LESS because I'm full). I've personally noticed that when I eat a lot of carbs, it triggers me to eat more. I crave more. When I eat less carbs, I dont crave sweets.

ETA: Paleo pairs well with eating lower carbs in a lot of ways.

A typical day for me:

Breakfast: Hard boiled egg, cup of tea or coffee, and a homemade muffin (made with either almond flour, coconut flour, or sunflour...or a combination of those).

Lunch: 6-7oz of protein (chicken, beef, etc) from last night's dinner and fresh veggies.

Dinner: 6-7oz protein and a healthy pile of fresh veggies.

Dessert/Snacks: Homemade low(er) carb treat that I generally make myself or fresh fruit (depending on my carb load).

I generally dont use a lot of boxed foods anymore (quickie/convenience foods). They have too much salt and a lot of unpronouncable words.

I do use canned items, but I read labels to see what's in it. If I want to make a pumpking pie, I use canned pumpkin puree- 100% pumpkin with no other additives.

For me its been more about eating food that is actually food and not food-like products that are in boxes.

Hubby and I go grocery shopping once a month for "staples" (canned goods, restocking things like rice, flour, meats on sale, etc), but I buy things like veggies, fruit, a couple of times a week.

Some of the things I make myself:

I grind most of my own flours (almond and sunflour...I buy coconut flour already made).

I make my own breads/muffins using my own flours- no additives!

I make my own yogurts, butter, and stock (chicken, beef, veggie stock).

The way I eat isn't a diet per se. I eat this way because I feel better.

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GabyBaby ( member #26928) posted at 5:28 PM on Tuesday, November 5th, 2013

Also, I use MyFitnessPal to track my calories, carbs, protein, fat, and fiber when I'm restricting foods to lose weight.

It works rather well.

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DD(27), DS(24, PDD-NOS)

WH#2 (SorryinSac)- Killed himself (May 2015) in our home 6 days after being served divorce docs.
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rachelc ( member #30314) posted at 5:37 PM on Tuesday, November 5th, 2013

can someone tell me what a typical day is like?

i eat mostly paleo and giving up dairy and sugar has helped me immensely with my digestive issues, which I've had since birth...

breakfast: bacon and eggs, coffee

snack: nuts

lunch: huge salad

snack: nuts

suppers: a piece of meat and slow carb like beans

snack: one piece of dark chocolate...

also: a rum and coke. is this on the paleo plan?

I workout intensely at least an hour a day. It is taking the place of me having to take AD's and getting rid of some belly fat that is heriditary (or from my rum and cokes)

at any rate: I love protein/meat.

I buy a grass fed cow every year and my Mom subsistence fishes in Alaska every year and sends me lots of salmon.

I make hubby eat Paleo when he's home. He grumbles sometimes but he knows it's healthier for him. Plus, he doesn't have to make such healthy choices when finding something for lunch when hes at work.

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GabyBaby ( member #26928) posted at 7:18 PM on Tuesday, November 5th, 2013

If you're on Facebook, you should check out DJ Foodie's page (or go to DJFoodie.com).

He is a low carb/paleo guy and ofen links FREE ebooks that center around Paleo, low carb, and gluten free eating.

He also posts lots of recipes and articles as well.

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