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 simplydevastated (original poster member #25001) posted at 3:39 PM on Tuesday, November 12th, 2013

I'm trying to help my sister put together an employee handbook and I'm working on a dress code. I found one online and altered it to fit her needs (she owns a pet store). I included some examples of business dress even though it's not really needed but I wanted to make sure I'm covering everything.

Would someone be willing to review it for me and tell me if I need to make any changes?

Thanks.

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tushnurse ( member #21101) posted at 3:47 PM on Tuesday, November 12th, 2013

Why do you want a Lawyer?

I did have to rewrite the dress code when I managed an office. Two of my girls went out and got nose piercings, and my Docs were strongly opposed to that.

We switched it to include something like.

"Hair must be clean, and out of face to not interfere with any procedures. No more than two earrings in each ear, and nothing that dangles down, small simple hoops are acceptable. No other facial piercings. No tattoos that are not covered by your normal work attire. Management maintains the right to change this code without notice. "

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 simplydevastated (original poster member #25001) posted at 3:55 PM on Tuesday, November 12th, 2013

Because everything I've been reading said lawyers should review dress code to make sure it falls under the appropriate employment laws. Some people have filed claims of discrimination due to some dress codes and I'd like to avoid that for my sister.

That's a good one. I only mentioned "tucking in necklaces into the shirt when in close proximity to pets to avoid potential accidents" and "visible limited body piercings." But I'm sure my sister won't want to see a lip ring or facial tattoo.

I guess I need to be more detailed so there's no confusion. I've seen what can happen when people either don't read a dress code or when the dress code isn't detailed enough

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ajsmom ( member #17460) posted at 4:33 PM on Tuesday, November 12th, 2013

This is gonna sound very snarky, but...is this the sister who makes your life a living hell?

Just curious...

Also, I've written many handbooks and have had policies which are governed by federal or state law reviewed when needed. Internal dress codes? Never.

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tushnurse ( member #21101) posted at 4:38 PM on Tuesday, November 12th, 2013

It is my understanding that as long as your rules, and dress code have the statement about having the right to change as seen appropriate by management without notice that you are covered. But every state has different HR laws.

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 simplydevastated (original poster member #25001) posted at 4:53 PM on Tuesday, November 12th, 2013

ajsmom, yup, that's the sister. I'm either too nice, or a doormat. Not sure which at this moment. But this is fun for me. Maybe I can use this on my resume. Volunteer HR Rep/Recruiter? I'm also going to be screening and interviewing applicants for her.

I'll have to add that part as well. Thanks TN.

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ajsmom ( member #17460) posted at 5:02 PM on Tuesday, November 12th, 2013

I'm also going to be screening and interviewing applicants for her.

If you've never interviewed someone before, I highly recommend you find a seminar on proper interviewing techniques in your area before you do this.

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 simplydevastated (original poster member #25001) posted at 5:07 PM on Tuesday, November 12th, 2013

I've interviewed people before. It was a while ago, but...

Thanks for the tip. I'll have to look that up to see if we have anything like that.

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nowiknow23 ( member #33226) posted at 5:47 PM on Tuesday, November 12th, 2013

If it has been a while, be sure to check up on what you can't and shouldn't ask someone, just to make sure you're up-to-date with any potential law changes.

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