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Gottagetthrough posted 1/2/2014 17:35 PM

Is that the same thing or are they two different things?

looking forward posted 1/2/2014 18:19 PM

http://www.wisegeek.com/are-gluten-free-foods-also-low-carb.htm

Informative article for you.

I am on a very low carbohydrate regimen - permanently. It maintains my weight loss from two years ago.

bestbecameworst posted 1/2/2014 18:32 PM

Different things... but you can do both!

GabyBaby posted 1/2/2014 18:43 PM

I'm a low carber as well.
I also maintained a huge weight loss (150 lbs) for almost a decade by eating low carb. Then I got lazy and fell back into my old eating habits, gained approx. 40lbs, which I am now working back off (by eating low carb and exercising).

The key for me is to stay under 50 net carbs and take in the bulk of my calories in fat and protein.

Gottagetthrough posted 1/2/2014 20:58 PM

OHHHH DAMN...

I was diagnosed as PCOS this year and looked online for natural ways to help PCOS symptoms (which aren't really bad, I actually had to ask several drs as several told me I never had fertility issues and don't 'look' like a PCOSer... finally had some bloodwork done this year that confirmed)

Anywho, I looked up diets that are good for PCOS, etc. Low Carb. I thought that was the same as Gluten Free. Even bought a boat load of gluten free pasta (Im a vegetarian, I eat a lot of bread and pasta)

my gluten free pastahas 2 MORE gs of carbs than my regular $1 pasta

Keep telling myself, Im learning...

So anyone do low carb vegetarian. Ive been veggie for decades. I cant eat meat. How do you do that low carb

looking forward posted 1/2/2014 21:10 PM

Keep under 60 grams of carbohydrates daily.
There are online resources, including healthy carbs...check them out.
Calories vs carbohydrates -- I don't count calories, just grams of carbs.

I do eat meat....prefer white chicken breast.
For my protein sources I eat eggs and cheese.
I also include salads daily.

I am not a fresh fruit or veggie eater, which I know is not the healthiest. However, I do take a vitamin supplement and very healthy for my age (62).

Sad in AZ posted 1/2/2014 23:18 PM

I don't know why anyone wants to do low carb. You NEED carbs--good carbs--low glycemic whole grains, fruits, vegies. You can do a little soy, a lot of barley/quinoa/farro (all high protein whole grains).

Gluten free is for people with wheat sensitivity/celiac/chrons.

betrayedfriend posted 1/2/2014 23:22 PM

You may want to try paleo rather than gf paleo is naturally low carb, healthy whole foods found in nature no processed stuff.

kickboxer posted 1/2/2014 23:34 PM

Yeah...as you figured out, GF and low carb aren't the same :(

My daughter has type 1 diabetes and celiac disease. We count every carb that child eats and drinks in order to calculate her insulin dose. When she had to transition to GF after her celiac diagnosis, I was shocked by the increased number of carbs it took to satisfy the same appetite in her growing body.

GF portion sizes are much smaller than "normal" food...so the carbs may look comparable at first, but when you carve out equal portion sizes of each, it's painfully obvious that GF food is much heavier in carbs :(

You might consider perusing some Paleo suggestions for ideas. While meat is part of a Paleo lifestyle, the foods eaten are GF and very low carb in general.

Good luck!

Bluebird26 posted 1/2/2014 23:48 PM

Different diets.

I have been looking for paleo foood ideas and what it includes etc, I have found pinterest is a great source of information. Hope that helps.

InnerLight posted 1/3/2014 01:11 AM

I am a nutritionist and am working w a PCOS woman who is a vegetarian. It's been challenging but she is doing really well now.

You may not be handling carbs well and have developed insulin resistance so that's why even carbs that are healthy for lots of people have to be kept to a minimum for you. You could also get a glucose monitor and track your blood sugar for a month. Different people respond differently to different carbs. I've known diabetics who have steady blood sugar when eating beans and other who's blood sugar shot up after 1 serving.

There's only 3 macronutrients so if you have less carbs then you must have more protein and since you are a veg and you can't get that high with protein, don't be afraid of healthy fat. Many nutritionally oriented doctors suggest up to 60% fat for the good health. (Dr Perlmutter -sp.)

Vegetables
Nuts/nut butters
Coconut fat/milk
Seeds, flax/chia pumpkin, sunflower
Flax seed oil for the omega 3s
Avocados
Beans
Root veg like sweet potatoes and beets in moderation.
Protein powder (whey, hemp, pea)
Tempeh, tofu (avoid fake soy meats)
Eggs
Cheese, yogurt, butter, ghee
Small amounts of whole grains (avoid all kinds of flour products)
Sweeten with stevia or xylitol.
Lots of Cinnamon!
Chocolate :-) (not the bars but making your own chocolate pudding with coconut milk, chia seeds, vanilla, cocoa powder, pinch of sea salt whiz zed smooth in a blender and set in a fridge.)
Try not to depend on artificial sweeteners like Splenda or aspartame as they create problems.

If you are at all open to fish, shrimp, etc ...or at least fish / cod liver oil as that makes the cells more sensitive to insulin. That would help a lot.

Make sure you are taking b12 methyl cobalamin at least 1000mcg. Especially if you end up on metformin.

Good luck. Take a few weeks to make slow changes, it doesn't have to all happen this week. Keep researching what healthy foods you enjoy and adding them in, slowly eliminating the sugar/flour foods/processed stuff.

You will feel better! My client is running half marathons now.

GabyBaby posted 1/3/2014 01:36 AM

Low carb doesn't mean no carb.
I choose to limit carbs/sugar and, for me, it works well. I don't feel sluggish and bloated after meals and I have a lot of energy.

Gottagetthrough posted 1/3/2014 07:58 AM

Try not to depend on artificial sweeteners like Splenda or aspartame as they create problems.

I was drinking almost 3 20oz bottles of diet soda when i got my diagnosis of PCOS...

And Im not on metaformin yet, but thats been discussed as a possibility.

I also had a 10lb baby, and the ob at the time was sure i had gestational diabetes, but i did not. Wonder if that has anything to do with the PCOS...

Hmmm... lots to think about! Still pissed that I just went shopping and got bulk quinoa and bulk gluten free pasta LOL!!!

and MANY thanks for that list of foods to start me out with. My SIL is doing low carb to lose weight, and told me that peas have lots of carbs So much to learn, i had no idea.

[This message edited by Gottagetthrough at 7:59 AM, January 3rd (Friday)]

cmego posted 1/3/2014 09:28 AM

I"m a PCOS, primarily vegetarian and I have taken Metformin for 10 years.

I did lose a lot of weight, but it took a while to do that. It comes back on really easily too.

If I"m being really "good", here is what I eat:

Mostly I live on greek yogurt, fat free. I eat it in the morning with fruit and a little honey. Or an egg sautéed with some peppers, mushrooms and a little low fat cheese. If I"m being "bad", I might cook an egg or two with a piece of whole wheat toast.

I made tuna salad (I do eat a little meat…) with greek yogurt, adding celery or whatever. I put it on salad or fill an avocado. I use greek yogurt as sour cream too. I create salad dressings or make a great dip with yogurt, natural peanut butter, honey and cinnamon. Perfect for dipping with apples or as a topping for fruit salad…my kids LOVE this. Sometimes I add a tablespoon of chocolate to it too.

I make my own soups and freeze in individual portions. Butternut squash, broccoli, sometimes chicken and quinoa, bean soup. I generally add a little milk when they are thawed to add some protein.

Dinner is salad with cheese, cottage cheese, salmon, tofu. Quesidillas (whole wheat) with cheese and veggies. Sauteed zucchini with goat cheese..yum! Or a soup...

Snacks are nuts, cottage cheese with a little lemon olive oil on top, a low fat cheese stick. Desserts are fruit with whipped topping and a cup of decaf coffee or tea. I do put a tablespoon of half and half in for richness. A touch of splenda.

The trick for me is to always eat a carb and a protein together. Over Christmas, I didn't care..I ate what I wanted. Now I"m having to take that weight off…I wish I didnt' do it, but every Christmas I allow myself to splurge.

Gottagetthrough posted 1/3/2014 09:53 AM

thank you so much for all of this wonderful information!

Gottagetthrough posted 1/3/2014 09:56 AM

are kidney, black, navy beans OK and low carb

also, whats the deal with quinoa... i see differing opinions on it

if i can eat beans, vegetables, salsa, hot sauce and quinoa i will be A-OK.

cmego posted 1/4/2014 14:38 PM

I use quinoa sparingly.

You'll have to find out what "sets you off". Most nutritionists tout the benefits of oatmeal. Well, that makes my blood sugar all wacky. I crash fast afterwards. Feel shaky, etc.

If i eat too many carbs, I feel shaky or sluggish or can't form my words correctly, I also become short tempered. My ex used to tell me, "you need to go eat something."

Beans are good, but they aren't a complete protein. But, beans with brown rice is a complete protein. Do you have a nutritionist?? It really did help me in the beginning.

Oh, I do rice cakes with peanut butter as a snack. Just had a greek yogurt with fruit because the 3pm time is a major crash time for me.

You need to find a way to get more protein in your diet.

I made low fat broccoli and cheese soup for dinner tonight with salad. The kids will have grilled cheese to dip in

Seriously, find a good nutritionist and then start listening to your body! No one is the same, you have to find out what you triggers your body.

Fireball72 posted 1/4/2014 20:17 PM

Speaking as a diabetic and fellow pasta-lover, I use Dreamfields pasta - it's low GI/low carb and it tastes JUST like the real thing. You'll never know the difference.

I devour pasta - if Dreamfields didn't exist, I'd be heartbroken.

(You may want to test it with just one box to be sure - sometimes it doesn't work for everyone, but for those where it does, it's a LIFE SAVER.)

Gottagetthrough posted 1/4/2014 21:11 PM

I saw dream fields tonight at the store, but it said 41 g of carbs? My sil does low carb and eats it, too. I'm confused

I bet it has something to do with low glycemic index. but I'm not sure.

I think I will make an appt with a nutritionist, good idea :-)

nolight posted 1/5/2014 05:24 AM

I eat paleo and love it I've never felt, trained or looked better. I jumped off over Christmas and now feel awful so am starting on the Whole 30 diet tomorrow. It's a 30 day clean eating programme to reset your eating habits just google it if you're interested there are heaps of free resources and no products to pitch!

Won't proselytise here but there are some great websites check out Marks Daily Apple and Everyday Paleo. Let me know if you decide to try the Whole 30, it really helps to have a "sponsor"