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The Book Club :
Getting Even: Forgiveness and Its Limits

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 TheAgonyOfIt (original poster member #39114) posted at 5:09 AM on Friday, January 31st, 2014

An interesting take, interesting and worth skimming for those who struggle with the need to take the "higher road."

Me BS 49, ExWS: narcissist! Jekyll Hyde. Left in secret early July, moved states. Left home, job, whole life behind and difficult** adjusting. Dog injured and too much to handle. Supremely bummed out.

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Ascendant ( member #38303) posted at 3:08 PM on Friday, January 31st, 2014

This looks like something I can get behind....good stuff?

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 TheAgonyOfIt (original poster member #39114) posted at 10:34 PM on Friday, January 31st, 2014

I've only started it. It's fairly academic and it's philosophy, so it's nothing definitive, but rather about "on the one hand, but on the other hand." But for "nice" folks like me, it's good ethical food for thought. the author is a professor of criminal law so it's written from that viewpoint, although he seems to touch on how these ethics can affect private law (and situations of betrayal) as well.

I wanted something meaty, above pop psych, to dig into. This book seems to mostly support the moral and even psychological right to retributive justice (at the societal, not necessarily personal, level), although in reading snippets of his later work, it seems his stance has mellowed to higher levels of forgiveness.

I'm not sure yet how i will ultimately feel about this book, but so far it's interesting...

Me BS 49, ExWS: narcissist! Jekyll Hyde. Left in secret early July, moved states. Left home, job, whole life behind and difficult** adjusting. Dog injured and too much to handle. Supremely bummed out.

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Ascendant ( member #38303) posted at 10:46 PM on Friday, January 31st, 2014

I bought it.

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 TheAgonyOfIt (original poster member #39114) posted at 1:57 AM on Saturday, February 1st, 2014

Wow! Our own little book club! : )

Hope to hear your opinions on the book! Will have to seek out your story too!

Me BS 49, ExWS: narcissist! Jekyll Hyde. Left in secret early July, moved states. Left home, job, whole life behind and difficult** adjusting. Dog injured and too much to handle. Supremely bummed out.

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Ascendant ( member #38303) posted at 5:33 AM on Saturday, February 1st, 2014

yeah....I'll start soon, let you know what I think.

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mainlyinpain ( member #39134) posted at 5:34 AM on Saturday, February 1st, 2014

I looked the book up on Amazon.....

and so had to laugh when I saw this in the middle of the page....

What Other Items Do Customers Buy After Viewing This Item?

Diabolical Revenge & Sabotage by anonymous

Kindle Edition

5.0 out of 5 stars (1)

$2.99

Can't decide which one is more appealing...no, I know

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 TheAgonyOfIt (original poster member #39114) posted at 5:57 AM on Saturday, February 1st, 2014

okay that one is so worth a picture!

This definitely appeals to my black humor... or should it be gallows humor?... coping mechanism, and reminds me of when I was the star of my own little horror movie!

Me BS 49, ExWS: narcissist! Jekyll Hyde. Left in secret early July, moved states. Left home, job, whole life behind and difficult** adjusting. Dog injured and too much to handle. Supremely bummed out.

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Ascendant ( member #38303) posted at 2:58 PM on Saturday, February 1st, 2014

Wait....there are books on how to do this....oh, hell....

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mainlyinpain ( member #39134) posted at 5:43 AM on Sunday, February 2nd, 2014

Reading is FUNdamental

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Ascendant ( member #38303) posted at 7:36 AM on Thursday, March 27th, 2014

About halfway through the book.....really digging it so far.

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Dawn58 ( member #37656) posted at 9:27 AM on Friday, March 28th, 2014

Just ordered the book, looks like something I can definitely relate too!

I got into the marriage, because I loved him. I got out of the marriage, because I love me.

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 TheAgonyOfIt (original poster member #39114) posted at 12:16 AM on Wednesday, April 16th, 2014

hey there Ascendant,

i've been not active on SI for a while, saw that you had read this book, or much of it. did it help you at all in some way? Would love to know. I wound up dabbling in other stuff and have been all over the map. Too bad about my little book club idea here, my intention was good but my follow through, not so good! Hope you're doing okay!

Me BS 49, ExWS: narcissist! Jekyll Hyde. Left in secret early July, moved states. Left home, job, whole life behind and difficult** adjusting. Dog injured and too much to handle. Supremely bummed out.

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Ascendant ( member #38303) posted at 2:54 PM on Wednesday, April 16th, 2014

Mmmm....I don't know if 'help' is the right word...it certainly provides several reasons why revenge could be a healthy idea, as well as hard-earned forgiveness. Forgiveness for the spouse and/or the AP needs to come only after they've earned it; giving forgiveness too easily cheapens it. I'm not quite done with it yet, but I'm getting there. I'll write a full report once I finish.

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