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User Topic: Feeling Helpless - Uncomfortable Silence
♂ 42392
Member # 42392
Default  Posted: 1:23 PM, February 7th (Friday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

So DDay was three weeks ago (time seems to be moving every so slowly). I confessed to everything after being caught. I have ended relations with the OP, started IC, started taking group behavioral therapy classes, started meditating, reading anything and everything I can get my hands on... I have been doing everything I can to turn my life around, make sense of everything and become the person I always thought I was.

After finding out about my affair, my wife said that it was over between us. She said for the time being we are just roommates who are co-
parenting, until she can get the strength to leave. I've asked her if she wanted me to move out, if she wanted me to sleep in another which she replied it doesn't matter, and then went on to say I could sleep in the bed with her.

Besides dealing with children issues our conversations/discussions are few and far between. I have answered all of her questions, I have accepted full responsibility for my actions, I have apologized numerous times. I have let her know that I want to stay married and work it out. I have also let her know that first I need to fix myself, but I also want to help her heal as well. I get mixed signals from her about our future together. Besides the HB, which she has said don't get the wrong idea it's just sex and means nothing, she will make comments during our conversations that lead me to believe she is going to try and work it out. I know that it is still early and she is still processing everything. I also know that everything needs to move at her pace.

My question is I don't know what to say to her. She doesn't want to hear the apologies anymore, because she says they mean nothing. If I tell her how much I love her, she reply's with if I loved her I wouldn't have done this to her. I've told her I want to help her heal, to which she says I can't. What can I do or say to her to help her through this, to know what she's feeling, to know what she's thinking, to know if we have a chance together. Everyday seems so uncomfortable, as I am forcing myself not to do the things I normally would do, like holding her, kissing her, telling her I love her...

Posts: 1 | Registered: Feb 2014
♂ 25460
Member # 25460
Default  Posted: 1:49 PM, February 7th (Friday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

You are only 3 weeks in on a journey that takes a minimum of 3-5 years so don't panic yet.

It seems that you are taking some steps towards healing but the reality is that at some level, you have had quite some time to come to terms with your cheating alter-ego but for your wife, this seems like it was only yesterday.

Todkbear - What can I do or say to her to help her through this...

Continue with what you are doing. And then add the dimension of TIME into the equation, for it will take time and lots of it before your wife will come to term with what is happening, make her decisions and communicate this to you.

There is a healing library (yellow box to the left of the screen) that has many articles which can answer the questions that you have.


Stilllovinghim - You have got to work every single day on yourself and on your M if you want this to survive. This is the most important thing in your life. This is the air in your lungs. Don't squander it.

Donít listen to your head, itís easily confused. Donít listen to your heart, its fickle. Listen to your soul, God doesn't steer you wrong.

Posts: 3298 | Registered: Sep 2009 | From: Azilda, Northern Ontario
♀ 41166
Member # 41166
Default  Posted: 2:01 PM, February 7th (Friday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

BS here. It's so early in the process of healing for both of you that there's not a lot you can say right now. Be transparent, be sincere and above all, be completely honest when she asks you anything. It will be a long time before she can believe any words that you say.

Listen to her when she expresses emotions, even anger. Do NOT get defensive. Acknowledge that you are the cause of her pain and reassure her that you will never do it again. Repeat this process over and over again for as long as it takes for her to heal.

Me: BW 42 (39 at DDay 1)
FWH 42 (39 at DDay 1) (RibsInHerChest)
Together 23 yrs, M 19, 2 kids
DDay: 12/11/12 ONS with CW
Massive TT: 1/4/2015 full blown EA/PA with multiple encounters over several weeks
Didn't use condom, I got chlamydia.

Posts: 561 | Registered: Oct 2013
♀ 40212
Member # 40212
Default  Posted: 7:37 AM, February 8th (Saturday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

"BS here. I am so sorry that you have found yourself here. I am 6 months into the process and my "H" and I are doing really well. We have been going to therapy together for 6 months. You are very early in the process and my emotions were all over the place in the early stages. Some days, I could not even look at my "H". I suggest therapy together. Only time will tell if she will be able to move past the anger and start forgiving you. Please remember that you are not a bad just made bad choices. At 6 months...which was 1/31/14, I finally realized I really wanted to still be with him. Prior to emotions were like a rollercoaster. Give her some time. Just be VERY honest and answer all questions. Do not say things like.."I do not remember". "Hugs to you"...hang in there.

Posts: 164 | Registered: Aug 2013
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Default  Posted: 5:24 PM, February 8th (Saturday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Welcome to SI. After hanging around here for several months, one starts to see patterns.

She doesn't want to hear the apologies anymore, because she says they mean nothing. If I tell her how much I love her, she reply's with if I loved her I wouldn't have done this to her. I've told her I want to help her heal, to which she says I can't.

What you're describing is normal, and to be expected. Imagine how you'd feel if you'd caught your wife having an affair. If you really think about it, I'm guessing "devastated" wouldn't begin to cover it, am I right?

What can I do or say to her to help her through this, to know what she's feeling, to know what she's thinking, to know if we have a chance together.

What I'm sensing here, is that you're afraid she'll leave you. Gently, left her. You ended the marriage. What you can do is respect her wishes, give her space, and heal thyself. It's not up to you to "help her through this," if she doesn't want you to.

Everyday seems so uncomfortable.

Oh, you poor thing! How awful for you, not being able to hold and kiss your wife. Look, I don't want to read you the riot act, but your post reads very self-centered, with a very high "I" count. Again, this is common with WSs close to DDay. Our affairs were the epitome of selfishness. I don't expect you to turn on a dime and suddenly put your wife's needs and feelings first.

Besides dealing with children issues our conversations/discussions are few and far between.

Around here we call this "the 180," and it's for BSs to protect themselves. As she should be, at this point, because in this post you're not showing any sign of recognizing how deeply you've hurt her. I'm basing that on the number of times in your post you mentioned how hurt, sad, and devastated your wife probably feels. Let's see, hmm, count by two, carry the one, I'm getting

fWW: 42
BH: 52
DDay: April 21, 2013
Sweet DS & fierce DD, under 10
Former motto: "Fake it till ya make it." Now: "You can't win if you don't play."

Posts: 1461 | Registered: Apr 2013 | From: Redneck land
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Default  Posted: 6:33 PM, February 8th (Saturday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Well, Todkbear, I'm a FBS and I can say that it just takes a long time. If she doesn't want to talk- don't! Especially not at this point! All you CAN do is work on yourself and BE the man you always thought you were. Maybe she'll see it and want to work things out, maybe she won't. Just as she wasn't in control of your actions, when you had your A, you aren't in control of her response to it.

You can TRY to empathize with her pain, but I think that's mostly impossible, unless you've been through it. I don't know how many BSs I've seen here talk about how they didn't truly understand, until it happened to them. So, I get that you may not truly understand, and I understand WHY. I hope you never have to truly understand because it is soul crushing.

You can't tell her how much you love her, right now, because your actions have shown her that you treated her with complete disregard. The only thing you can do is SHOW her, with your actions- and this has to be a consistent pattern of loving behavior that persists from now on. If you are inconsistent with your behavior, she won't be able to trust you again. What I mean by this is doing things without her having to ask- it could be as simple as making dinner or taking out the trash, etc. It doesn't have to some grand gesture because she'd probably find that unbelievable, too. Just little things on a daily basis from now on.

If you haven't told her about SI, you might want to tell her, at some point. This place has saved a LOT of marriages, including mine.

Posts: 11832 | Registered: Mar 2008
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Default  Posted: 7:48 AM, February 9th (Sunday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

BS here- at 3 weeks out I could hardly function. I was so traumatized that beyond taking care of our kids (which I could barely do) and the pretense I had to put up at work, I was not able to speak. There was just nothing left in my tank for it. I would literally just lay for hours just staring at the wall. I was crying without making a sound. FWH would just hold me and apologize, but I was not in a place yet to respond. The pain was just to overwhelming. It took the dreaded four letter word here...TIME. Time and him being completely 200% about putting the effort in to fix what he broke.

As another is a 3 - 5 year rollercoaster. Keep doing what you can. Be honest, transparent, loving, and accepting of her pain. It is VERY raw and VERY real. There will be good days and bad days on this road. There will be anger a few months from now too. Keep doing the hard work of IC/MC. There is no crystal ball of knowing if at the end, this was a dealbreaker this early on.

DDay 9/2011
4-6 months of TT'ing
11/2012- Thanks for the HPV!!!
Fully R'd
"Just as ripples spread out when a single pebble is dropped into water, the actions of individuals can have far-reaching effects"-Dalai Lama

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