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LA44 posted 2/12/2014 16:28 PM

Today we were driving home from a funeral. It was actually a lovely service for a woman in her 90's. I did not know her but her four kids spoke great things of her and made me wish I did. I was there to support my H who did know her.

When my H's BB rings the caller is displayed. About a half hour from home it rings. The display reads, "Unknown Caller" and then the number. I recognized the first 3 digits.

He said, "oh, I recognize this num...ber..." and then his voice trailed off. He looked angry. I said, "Who is it?" Pretty sure of the answer. He said, "LA, that was the AP."

We drove a bit. I asked if there could be any work reason. No. I asked if this date meant anything. No. And neither does the 14th, he added.

There was no message.

The last time she pocket dialed was when I saw her for the first time at a three day conference back in Sept. She "accidentally" pocket-dialed him on her way out of town. I thought it was a farewell FU to us, frankly.

A day or two later he texted her and told her to remove his name from her phone. She said she already did and said she had "no intention of speaking with you."

A N/C note was never sent Dec. 2012. I did not know about NC letters back then. It should also be noted that after he told her via phone in Dec. and to her face at a Jan. 2013 conference that it was done, she contacted him 3 more times in the name of work.

Do we send a NC at this point?

Rebreather posted 2/12/2014 16:44 PM

I would be inclined to say no. The verbal "take me out of your phone" should suffice.

It's time for him to block her number, so you don't have to get this kind of call.

Otherwise, I'm saying all crickets, all the time.

whattheh posted 2/12/2014 16:51 PM

Would he be able to change his number? My fWH did on dDay and it has given us both peace of mind.

LA44 posted 2/12/2014 17:14 PM

He could whatthe.....goodness knows he gets plenty of weird area code phone calls at odd hours anyway.

Rebreather, he believed he already blocked the #. I know he deleted her from his contact list.

I guess in some ways I want there to be an official note. But I am on the fence.

RidingHealingRd posted 2/12/2014 17:23 PM

I am with Rebreather on this one. She knows quite well that contact is not welcome. I would ignore, ignore, ignore ~ the best way to let her know that she is a nonentity in your life.

atsenaotie posted 2/12/2014 17:28 PM

I would not respond, and do whatever can be done to block the number, though she could use other numbers.

I identify all the calls from people I know. Calls from others go to voice mail, I never pick them up.

SisterMilkshake posted 2/12/2014 17:38 PM

I'll be the voice that says I feel you should send a formal NC letter.

D-day for me was in March 2010. The affair ended in 2004. FWH had gotten a new cell phone and #. He told OW many times to not call. OW fished and stalked for 6 years. Then OW outed the affair to me. OW continued to fish. Finally, in February 2012 we sent a NC letter to OW. Almost 2 years after d-day.

We haven't heard from OW since, unless the hang up calls from blocked and private numbers are OW. I feel a certain kind of letter may do the trick for you, too. Here is the letter my FWH sent to the OW.

Ms. XXXXX XXXXX
I love my wife. Milkshake is the most amazing, wonderful, caring, loving and forgiving woman I know.

I have re-dedicated myself to Milkshake and our marriage. I am so grateful Milkshake is giving me the chance to prove to and show her how much I love her. I will be doing that until the day I die.

I am horrified, disgusted and ashamed by what I did. Even more so that I did it with you. I regret the day I met you and every minute I spent with you or even talked to you.

I hate you and will never fogive you for the part you played in causing my wife pain. She was innocent and didn't deserve the pain our selfish behaviour caused her.

Milkshake is my past, present and future. You are the past and simply irrelevant.

Do not contact Milkshake or me again in anyway shape or form. We have made a report to the police and our lawyer is prepared to take legal action if needed.

Again, I hate you and never want to see or hear from you again!

MisterSister

eta: We ignored OW for quite awhile. That doesn't work for all AP's.

[This message edited by SisterMilkshake at 6:09 PM, February 12th (Wednesday)]

Rebreather posted 2/12/2014 17:55 PM

he believed he already blocked the #. I know he deleted her from his contact list

Most have to go to their carrier and request a specific number be blocked, and I have learned here that they have to be redone every few months.

blakesteele posted 2/12/2014 17:59 PM

(((LA44 and Mr LA44)))

This is bordering on harrassment....believe me, I know. I had a very nice conversation with a sheriff when he called me to tell me that "AP can fuck your wife, but you can not fuck with him. You need to stop calling him or I will have to arrest you for harassment." He was a very nice sheriff....told me he knew how it felt. His wife fucked around on him and he D'ed her.

So that could be an option....to have the law call her.

But I like what Rebreather said....change his number.

I also like what RidingHealingRd said....she is an adult, she has been told once....hell, she knew what destructive choices she was doing while IN the affair itself.

I am sorry to read this......this is tough enough without this occurrence.

Hang tough.

Keep the faith!

LA44 posted 2/12/2014 18:08 PM

I am sorry to read this......this is tough enough without this occurrence.

Thanks guys and gals.

Thanks blake. My H said this to me tonight. He said, It's like we have a leak in our roof and we are going on our 6th day of rain.

I did not know that about the blocked number Rebreather. Will do!

Hang tough.

Tough as nails (been hammered a few times though.... and not in the fun way).

And I will keep the faith. I hope my Joel Osteen book speaks to me tonight!


hopefulmother posted 2/12/2014 18:09 PM

LA44

So sorry you have to deal with this. Did you check the phone records just to make sure about how often that number has popped up. It just seems so uncanny that it happened at that precise moment. I can block numbers via website. It only lasts for 3months or something. Then I have to go back and block it again.

This close to Valentine's Day, that is not a butt dial. That is her way of trying to elicit contact or at the very least stay on the radar. Making him be reminded that she still exists.

I say, change the number then keep an eye on the records to see if it pops up again. If it does, then you know that is too uncanny.

PinkJeepLady posted 2/12/2014 18:31 PM

(((oh LA!)))

I happen to be in a kick A** mood right now and it's pissing me off! You are doing great!!! It's a bump in the road, that's all, no matter what you do!

Love love Sister/Mister's letter, if you do send her one use that for a guide for sure!

Hang in there LA!

LA44 posted 2/12/2014 19:18 PM

Thanks PJL, and thanks hopefulmother.

I definitely have my own choice words for her and since I majored in Communications I think I could really get the message across loud and clear!

Another time she called was last March Break - first day of the break in fact. Guess she start she would kick things off with a rousing start.

I say, change the number then keep an eye on the records to see if it pops up again.

So question....if you block a #, it would still come up in the records?

He said there has been absolutely zero contact since the last butt dial in Sept. And that is when he asked her to take his name off her phone as clearly it was on memory.


Ascendant posted 2/12/2014 19:37 PM

SisterMilkshake-

That letter was the cat's pajamas. Just awesome.

Best parts:

I am horrified, disgusted and ashamed by what I did. Even more so that I did it with you. I regret the day I met you and every minute I spent with you or even talked to you.

I hate you and will never fogive you for the part you played in causing my wife pain. She was innocent and didn't deserve the pain our selfish behaviour caused her.

Milkshake is my past, present and future. You are the past and simply irrelevant.

UKlady posted 2/13/2014 03:35 AM

I think changing the phone number is the absolute best way to deal with this. I asked my WH to do this on D-Day and he did immediately. Yes it was a bit of a pain to inform other people but it was a clean break and gave me the peace of mind that OW couldn't make contact in this way (I also secretly delighted in the fact she would continue sending messages to the old number and be receiving radio silence!).

Changing the number should give peace of mind.

sinsof thefather posted 2/13/2014 05:05 AM

I think I'd ignore it this time LA, because I think that is exactly what got to her last time - being ignored at the conference. She did not like that at all. I think that's why her face magically appeared in the background of your picture and why she so accidentally (not) butt dialed - you both - on your way home. That call was for you both then, and I think this is just as much for you both again this time. LA, she is a pissed little bunny boiler who didn't like getting dumped and most of all she didn't like being ignored. I think she just wants to make her presence felt again. I think she does know it's 'over' but is angry towards you both about it and just wants to twist the knife any way she can.

That's why I think she's called so near to Valentines Day - if she's not sharing a romantic Valentine with him this year, she's trying to make damn sure that neither of you get to share one either. She just wants to be on the radar again upsetting you both.

I think it's more to do with her anger than any real hope that your husband wants her back. Her motives could be: 1)It forces him to have to contact her back again. 2) He ignores her but has to tell you about it, thus spoiling any hope of a romantic Valentines for you both. 3) He hides the call from you but has to spend his Valentines day worried in case you find out about it or she contacts again. 4) She elicits another response from you both.

For that reason, I'd probably block her number and ignore her again. However, if she contacts any more after this..then I'd think about giving her a no contact letter - sent from a lawyer. I'd give her no more contact from either of you personally LA because that's what I think her goal is - not to be ignored.

ETA: I do just have to say though that I do also love SisterMilkshake's husband's no contact letter, and it seems that it was the perfect response to that particular OW - because so far it's worked, when nothing else did - for six long years. So although I do generally think ignoring them is best, there are always exceptions to the rule and everyone has to do what they think is best for their own personal situation.

[This message edited by sinsof thefather at 5:34 AM, February 13th (Thursday)]

karmahappens posted 2/13/2014 05:35 AM

I would ignore her.

Sending anything now just screams "we got your call and it bothered us"

I wouldn't give her the satisfaction.

Block her number and carry on....

MrsDoubtfire posted 2/13/2014 05:42 AM

sorry to t/j but SISTERMILKSHAKE:
That was a fantastic NC letter to send.

Succinct, to the point, no apologies and no sentences that could be misconstrued.

I LOVE it. You should get this put into the Healing Library as a template for all BS to send as a NC letter.

Awesome

end of t/j - sorry

SusanR posted 2/13/2014 05:53 AM

(((LA)))

Sometimes, when I am feeling weak, I think about contacting OW or just messing with her in some way. MyWH told me she fears my retaliation.

I have managed NC and that often gives me great pleasure. I have taken the high ground. She can wallow in her pitiful cheater world!

[This message edited by SusanR at 5:54 AM, February 13th (Thursday)]

Gipper posted 2/13/2014 06:04 AM

I agree with the others. Just try to ignore. You can't engage and mess with her......but you can send me her number.
No, wait. Abort! Abort! Don't send me the number. I really should wake up good before posting!

Seriously, I am sorry that you are having to even think about this. Hugs to you.

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