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User Topic: What is it with "stupid" people and guns?
jrc1963
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Default  Posted: 2:34 PM, February 24th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

For the record I'm not talking about responsible gun owners here!

FWSO was visiting a sick friend (he has cancer) and was having a nice chat in the living room when the friend left the room to retrieve something from his bedroom.

He came back and said he was so proud he wanted to show FWSO something... that something turned out to be a 9mm handgun.

He than showed FWSO how he could pull back the slide to cock the gun... (apparently he hasn't had the strength to do this for a while) at this time FWSO asked him if there was a round in the chamber...

Friend says no... pulls the trigger and BANG!! Put a bullet into the tile floor.

FWSO said he never moved so fast to the door... sprinted to his car and left. He didn't wait for any explanation or apologies or anything. He said he was so mad he was shaking for hours.

He is so mad... I'm not too happy myself.

You hear about these things on the news all the time... "So and So was showing his/her new gun to Such and Such and the gun accidentally discharged and Such and Such was mortally wounded."

Today that could have been FWSO.

Thank God it wasn't.

ETA: FWSO is not a big fan of guns in general and doesn't own them or use them. I grew up in a house with guns and had classes and learned to be responsible and respect them.

[This message edited by jrc1963 at 2:36 PM, February 24th (Monday)]


Me: BSO - 46
Him: FWSO - 69
DS - 13
D-Day - 12-11-09,
R - he finally came home
Your life is an Occasion. Rise to it. - Mr. Magorium, "Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium"

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tushnurse
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Default  Posted: 2:38 PM, February 24th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Jesus pete.
Can anyone tell me what the first rule of firearms is? ? ?

Anyone????

Yes ALWAYS TREAT THE WEAPON LIKE IT IS LOADED, AND ALWAYS KEEP THE MUZZLE POINTED IN A SAFE DIRECTION.....

Second rule ???

YUP Keep your finger off the trigger unless you are certain you are going to fire the weapon.

IT ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE PEOPLE.....

It's idiots like this that give us responsible gun owners a bad bad name.


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jrc1963
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Default  Posted: 2:42 PM, February 24th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

It's idiots like this that give us responsible gun owners a bad bad name.

Exactly...

This is his 4th accidental discharge in 8 years.


Me: BSO - 46
Him: FWSO - 69
DS - 13
D-Day - 12-11-09,
R - he finally came home
Your life is an Occasion. Rise to it. - Mr. Magorium, "Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium"

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TrustedHer
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Default  Posted: 4:15 PM, February 24th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

At my gun club, 1 accidental discharge is an automatic 1 year suspension. 2nd one is a lifetime ban.

Several hundred members, only 2 AD's that I know of. Over 10 years.

4? In 8 years? NOT a responsible gun owner.


Take care of yourself. There's a great future out there. It won't come to you; you have to go to it.

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Clarrissa
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Default  Posted: 4:47 PM, February 24th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Exactly tushnurse. Never *ever* assume a gun is not loaded, with the possible exception if the gun has been dismantled. The dude may not have had the clip in and he assumed that since it wasn't it wouldn't fire. Obviously didn't check the chamber.

Hope your SO has calmed down, jrc. Personally, I'd have been shaking for hours after an incident like that.


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TrulyReconciled
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Default  Posted: 4:48 PM, February 24th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

It's not an accidental discharge.

It's a NEGLIGENT discharge.

This is what happens when you break EVERY one of Cooper's Rules.

RULE I: ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

RULE II: NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO DESTROY

RULE III: KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

RULE IV: BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT


PS - no 'clips' were involved.

[This message edited by TrulyReconciled at 4:50 PM, February 24th (Monday)]


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sisoon
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Default  Posted: 5:06 PM, February 24th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'm very glad he wasn't pointing the weapon at your FWSO.


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GabyBaby
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Default  Posted: 5:23 PM, February 24th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Tushnurse nailed it.
What an idjit that "friend" is!


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jrc1963
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Default  Posted: 5:46 PM, February 24th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

This man is now 73... (age is really irrelevant).

All of his Negligent Discharges have been inside a residence with people present.

One time he shot out the switch on his sister's stove in her kitchen.

This is his third discharge inside his own residence... once in the bedroom closet, once in the ceiling of his living room and now the tile floor.

FWSO said he's never witnessed anything like that in his life and hopes to never see it again.


Me: BSO - 46
Him: FWSO - 69
DS - 13
D-Day - 12-11-09,
R - he finally came home
Your life is an Occasion. Rise to it. - Mr. Magorium, "Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium"

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GabyBaby
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Default  Posted: 5:48 PM, February 24th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Someone should call and report this.
He should clearly NOT have firearms.


Me - 42
SorryInSac (STBX WH#2) - 47. DDay 7/12/14
Married 4, together 7yrs total
Status - Done

DD(21), DS(18, PDD-NOS)
6 Furkids - 4 dogs, 2 cats

WXH (serial cheater, 12+ OW) - Legally married 18yrs

I edit often for clarity/typos.


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jrc1963
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Default  Posted: 5:59 PM, February 24th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Who would you report it too?

I have no experience with this... every gun owner *I* know is responsible!


Me: BSO - 46
Him: FWSO - 69
DS - 13
D-Day - 12-11-09,
R - he finally came home
Your life is an Occasion. Rise to it. - Mr. Magorium, "Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium"

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GabyBaby
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Default  Posted: 6:02 PM, February 24th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Call a non-emergency police number (not 911) and discuss your concerns.
They should go out and make contact. They may even take his guns and place them in "safekeeping". He'd then have to go through the court system to prove he's competent to own a gun.

People who've threatened suicide get their guns taken and have to go through a similar process.

ETA:
It isn't an arrest, so you don't have to worry that he'll have a criminal record. Its more of a public safety thing.

[This message edited by GabyBaby at 6:02 PM, February 24th (Monday)]


Me - 42
SorryInSac (STBX WH#2) - 47. DDay 7/12/14
Married 4, together 7yrs total
Status - Done

DD(21), DS(18, PDD-NOS)
6 Furkids - 4 dogs, 2 cats

WXH (serial cheater, 12+ OW) - Legally married 18yrs

I edit often for clarity/typos.


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jrc1963
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Default  Posted: 6:05 PM, February 24th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

As this is FWSO "friend" I'll have to see what he wants to do...


Me: BSO - 46
Him: FWSO - 69
DS - 13
D-Day - 12-11-09,
R - he finally came home
Your life is an Occasion. Rise to it. - Mr. Magorium, "Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium"

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lynnm1947
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Default  Posted: 8:07 PM, February 24th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Oy, this guy is a menace. With friends like that..........

I have a hard time understanding this. I'm Canadian; the only people who have guns are 1) police and military, 2) people who seriously hunt, and 3) a few criminals/gangbangers who buy Saturday Night Specials in the US and smuggle them over the border. This does not translate to many firearms. I do not know anyone who accidentally discharged a gun once--let alone several times. My mind boggles when I hear stories like this. I do not know anyone who owns a gun for personal protection.


Age: 64..ummmmmmm, no...............65....no...oh, hell born in 1947. You figure it out!

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Pentup
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Default  Posted: 8:20 PM, February 24th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Most everyone I know has a gun. I know of one accidental discharge 30 years ago. I would never be in this mans home again. Scary!


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ThoughtIKnewYa
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Default  Posted: 8:23 PM, February 24th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Interesting you should post this now. I've been struggling with what to do about my NINE year-old next door neighbor who got a shotgun for his birthday. He's out back just slinging that thing around and shooting at I-don't-even-know-what- all unsupervised! And it's clear, from the way he handles it, he hasn't been told how to properly handle a gun and, IMO, is far too immature to be our shooting without a parent there. Someone is going to get hurt and I hope it's not one of us.

I'm sorry your FWSO had that happen. That would have scared the crap out of me!!


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jrc1963
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Default  Posted: 8:48 PM, February 24th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

TIKY...

You should call child protective services or the police about that nine year old with a gun... God Lord!


Me: BSO - 46
Him: FWSO - 69
DS - 13
D-Day - 12-11-09,
R - he finally came home
Your life is an Occasion. Rise to it. - Mr. Magorium, "Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium"

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sparkysable
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Default  Posted: 7:24 AM, February 25th (Tuesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

This is his 4th accidental discharge in 8 years.

AYFKM??


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Marriages that start this way, stepping over the bodies of loved ones as the giddy couple walks down the aisle, are not likely to last.


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Tred
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Default  Posted: 8:09 AM, February 25th (Tuesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

One less stupid person with a gun: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/24/michigan-man-shoots-himself-dead-demonstrating-gun-safety/

"A Michigan man killed himself in the course of telling his girlfriend how safe his three handguns were, the Oakland Free Press reported on Monday.

Authorities said the unidentified 36-year-old victim placed two of the handguns to his head and fired to demonstrate that they were safe while unloaded, before fatally shooting himself with the third firearm."


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TrulyReconciled
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Default  Posted: 8:43 AM, February 25th (Tuesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I have a hard time understanding this. I'm Canadian; the only people who have guns are 1) police and military, 2) people who seriously hunt, and 3) a few criminals/gangbangers who buy Saturday Night Specials in the US and smuggle them over the border. This does not translate to many firearms. I do not know anyone who accidentally discharged a gun once--let alone several times. My mind boggles when I hear stories like this. I do not know anyone who owns a gun for personal protection.

Canada has approximately 31 firearms in private hands for every 100 residents, ranking them 13th out of 178 countries. This is about 10,890,000 firearms, statistically.


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