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User Topic: My Descent into Hell
BlankPage
♂ 41985
Member # 41985
Default  Posted: 1:58 AM, February 26th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Well, where to begin........ I apologize in advance: This will end up being much longer than I want. I'll try to stick to the salient facts...

First off, if you knew my wife (BS), you'd also know that I was the stupidiest guy in the world to cheat on her. She's externally beautiful, wickedly smart with a great sense of humor, a lifelong athlete with a body to match, and she's a great mom on top of it all.

I feel compelled to tell the whole backstory leading up my infidelity, but none of it matters. My actions were disgusting and inexcusable. The backstory only matters in that we have other issues to address. We both know it.

We have two beautiful children and I'm fortunate enough to have a decent job which affords me a ton of flexibility and a decent paycheck. Those things are still in tact, mostly (as far as I know). My wife and I, and our two kids are still living together. I go "into the office" about 1x per week and work from home the rest of the time.

The chronology of my slide into hell: we went through a 14 month *zero sex period* where I spent a whole lot of time reading about "sexless marriages" on the internet, wondering what the hell was wrong with me. She spurned all of my advances. Although, I was crazy with frustration, I never sat her down and said, "hey, this is a big f'ing problem for me." Instead, I became sure she was cheating on me. (I remembered the saying, "if you're not screwing your wife, then someone else is....") I was SURE she was cheating. Who goes that long without sex voluntarily (oddly, I was faithful this entire time???).

I went as far as installing a keylogger on her computer. I quickly ascertained that virtually nothing was going on. I became disinterested, depressed, hyperfocused on work, etc. Neither of us really remember much of this time period....

About two years after we resumed having sex (still not as frequently as I would've liked, with several month+ dry spells mixed in). I started surfing Craigslist, and then migrated to Ashley Madison for sex partners. I was amazed at how many miserable people are out there. So, I made my situation worse by beginning to acquaint with them. First view chats, then for coffee...eventually, I met two of them for sex. Then, to really F things up bad, I wound up sleeping with one of my wife's friends.

So, for the record: who knows how many online conversations, maybe handful of no touch coffee dates, a one night stand, a long term affair, and another massive one time mistake with one of her friends. All over the course of about 16 months after 11 years of marriage. I suppose I had several emotional affairs with people also as I shared things with other women that I shouldn't have.

I am probably the world's worst cheater. I didn't take many steps to cover my tracks. My wife trusted me completely. I gave her my laptop, already logged into my email, where she found some absolutely deplorable conversations between me and the LTA person. Disgusting. Revolting. I cringe at the thought even now.

I eventually turned over everything to her: usernames and passwords, receipts, cell phone records, facebook, email, blah blah blah. It was all a bunch of meaningless junk. I thought it mattered. It didn't. I want my family. I want some type of acceptable life for us all. I hate that she now spends time consumed with my failure as a human being and partner. The unfairness of that alone is almost enough to make me leave. It's only because she is strong, that I am able to stay.

I wanted a fight. I was ready to be even more deplorable and, sadly, I'm capable of some really evil stuff. And she met me with kindness and compassion. I know I will never have anything close to this with another human being again. I'm not sure I would even want it. I want to be the best person I can be for her and my kids every second of every day. And if that means I stay, I stay. If she wants me to leave, I'll leave. She owes me nothing. Every second we're together now means so much. It's like borrowed time after getting a life sentence. I live in constant fear that she will grow tired of this mess. She could easily thrive without me. She could be gone any second. She should be.

We are trying to R. I'm in IC now as is my wife and we are looking for MC's. One interesting thing I learned is that I basically lied (lies of ommission) to her about EVERYTHING all throughout the marriage leading up to this: finances, medication, family stuff, anything for convenience. I went to great extremes not to "trouble her" never realizing that she was capable of dealing with a whole lot more adversity than I was....

R is hard. I never imagined she would have it in her to even attempt forgiveness. I'm not sure I would have - at least initially. It's very humbling. I never wanted to lose her, but I convinced myself that she didn't care about me. I turned her into a different person in my head. I betrayed my best friend. It's clear now that we could've talked about anything. I don't know why I didn't see this in the past. I wish I had.

As for sex, it has returned with a previously unknown vigor. Also, it seems sustainable? She is genuinely interested. I think it was the lack of communication that was the problem. I guess maybe I am lucky that the best sex of all is with my wife? I really don't understand how it could possibly be better with someone I didn't care about as much?

If you've read this far, thanks and please wish good thoughts upon me. I appreciate any and all advice.


Posts: 13 | Registered: Jan 2014 | From: Florida
Betrayed67
♀ 38134
Member # 38134
Default  Posted: 4:10 AM, February 26th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

You sound like you are really remorseful. You should be proud of yourself for resolving to be the best husband to your wife and dad to your kids. R is hard. The emotions of a BS go up and down. It's very unpredictable especially early months after Dday. You are on the right track. At least, it seems you've told your wife everything. Trickle Truth does not help R. My WH TT'd for a long time so it was very hard on me to really know if he is 100% into R or still continuing to cover his sorry a**.

Be gentle,and be patient with you wife.


Me-BW 46 yo;Him - WH 53 yo
Married 13years
One daughter together 9yo, 2 stepchildren(His from previous marriage)
Various DDdays (see my profile)
ONS and multiple "friendships" with women in various online dating sites

Posts: 131 | Registered: Jan 2013 | From: New Zealand
bionicgal
♀ 39803
Member # 39803
Default  Posted: 6:54 AM, February 26th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Oh Blank Page, sorry you are here. It is amazing how thoroughly one can crash and burn in such a short amount of time, isn't it?

I am a BS, so I don't know how helpful I can be for you at this point, other than to say that healing is possible. We are only 8 months out, and it is a long, hard journey, but my H and I are closer than we have been perhaps ever, and we've been together 20+ years. Don't get me wrong, it is the worst pain I have endured, but there can be growth from the crisis, as well.

There is a lot sage advice here and on the Reconciliation board. Some books that helped us were "How to Help Your Spouse Heal from Your Affair", "How Can I Forgive You" (for both people). and "Sexual Detours." The latter helped my normally strong, capable and moral husband figure out how he went so terribly astray. Of course, everyone suggests "Not Just Friends" as well.

There are lots of lights here to guide the way. Keep the faith -- and maybe your wife would find some comfort here as well. My advice though -- tell the truth. . . all of it that she is willing to hear. Even the parts you think she can't handle - let her make that call. It will be your willingness to be vulnerable that is your best bet to get you through this.

Peace and strength to you.

[This message edited by bionicgal at 6:58 AM, February 26th (Wednesday)]


me - BS (45) - DDay - June 2013
A was 2+ months, EA/PA
In MC & Reconciling
"Getting over a painful experience is much like crossing monkey bars. You have to let go at some point to move forward." -- C.S. Lewis.

Posts: 2159 | Registered: Jul 2013 | From: USA
BlankPage
♂ 41985
Member # 41985
Default  Posted: 10:56 AM, February 26th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thank you both. I don't deserve any credit though. I failed to mention that I put her through two weeks of false R (only admitting to an EA) before coming clean after she discovered the mutual friend deal. Then, I tried not to trickle truth her by disclosing all sorts of sexual details. (Which is what I thought mattered. I only discovered later in IC that I was disclosing the stuff that was complimentary to her, and omitting the other stuff - every time we met, how much money was spent, how long we stayed together, etc.)

Thanks for the book recs. I'm reading Not Just Friends and will progress through the list. Thanks also for the words of encouragement.


Posts: 13 | Registered: Jan 2014 | From: Florida
BlankPage
♂ 41985
Member # 41985
Default  Posted: 7:16 PM, February 27th (Thursday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I just also wanted to mention - if anyone has any "alternative" or non-traditional books that they think were helpful - PLEASE pass that information along. We're looking for any and all resources we can find!

Posts: 13 | Registered: Jan 2014 | From: Florida
20WrongsVs1
♀ 39000
Member # 39000
Default  Posted: 8:45 PM, February 27th (Thursday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I can relate to a lot of what you wrote, about convincing yourself that your BW didn't care about you. We project our shortcomings onto our spouses, and displace our anger or sadness onto them, so that it looks like it's all their fault. During our delusional affairs, I mean.

You didn't mention how things ended with the APs. Do they know your BW found out? Are any of them married? If so, have you given any thought to outing them to their husbands? I was on Ashley Madison too (God, for all I know, you might've messaged me) and I'm guessing any APs you met there were married. And lying to you about their horrible marriages, just like you did.

You asked for non-traditional books, and you mentioned communication issues. You and your wife should read Non-Violent Communication by Rosenberg. Wow. I use those techniques (basically empathic listening) on my kids, and it works wonders.


fWW: 42
BH: 52
DDay: April 21, 2013
Sweet DS & fierce DD, under 10
"Between stimulus and response there’s a space, in that space lies our power to choose our response, in our response lies our growth and our freedom." V. Frankl

Posts: 1252 | Registered: Apr 2013 | From: Redneck land
Lobo
♀ 42456
Member # 42456
Default  Posted: 7:17 PM, March 1st (Saturday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

BlankPage, I highly recommend you read "The Mindful Attraction Plan" by Athol Kay.


Imagine a world where the words you speak appear on your skin. Would you be more careful of what you say?

Posts: 32 | Registered: Feb 2014 | From: Australia
BlankPage
♂ 41985
Member # 41985
Default  Posted: 1:01 PM, March 2nd (Sunday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

20WrongsVs1 - How things ended. Good question. They know my BW found out - we blocked them from my phone, I let my wife reply to an email or two from an EA (former childhood gf). I was "broken up" with the LTA, no longer talking to the ONS, and the mutual friend thing....well, that took care of itself. Remember, I had a two week "False Recovery" period so I guess I pretty much put everyone on notice, then when the bomb eventually went off, it was easy (and very liberating) to stop all contact. The first thing I noticed was how much more time I had.

I didn't have any delusions that I REALLY liked any of these people (or that they liked me for that matter). I tried to make myself believe how evil my wife was, but yet I was scared to death of her finding out. Funny how that works. I guess deep down inside I really knew how terrible what I was doing was...

Anyway, thanks for the book recommendation. My wife tells me she just downloaded it, so I'll fire up a Kindle and get to it as soon as I can.

Lobo. Thanks, I will put that one on my list as well. I did a bit of research on the author and found he also a pretty interesting blog (not sure on the rules here for posting links, so I'll refrain, but it's easy to find by searching "Athol Kay"). Thanks again.


Posts: 13 | Registered: Jan 2014 | From: Florida
Lobo
♀ 42456
Member # 42456
Default  Posted: 5:22 PM, March 2nd (Sunday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

BlankPage, his blog is fantastic and he also has a forum promoting strong, healthy marriages. Lots of wisdom there.
Good luck to you.


Imagine a world where the words you speak appear on your skin. Would you be more careful of what you say?

Posts: 32 | Registered: Feb 2014 | From: Australia
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