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GabyBaby posted 2/26/2014 10:28 AM

I have a question for the car "experts" on the board.
Hubby bought a truck about a year ago (used). Its due for registration renewal including a smog check. Unfortunately, we can't get the smog paperwork because the air filter system on the truck is after market.
The smog place told us we need to contact the air filter manufacturer and get documentation on the part or the smog cant be completed. problem.
We contact the manufacturer several times and have gotten no response.

So NOW what do we do?! Help!

TrulyReconciled posted 2/26/2014 11:01 AM

What's a 'smog place' (other than LA, I mean).

TrulyReconciled posted 2/26/2014 11:02 AM

Is this something like a K & N filter system?

Tred posted 2/26/2014 11:05 AM

Is this pertaining to the catalytic converter in the exhaust system?

dontknowwhyme posted 2/26/2014 11:16 AM

Probably easier to find one in junk yard and just put it back to stock for the test.

GabyBaby posted 2/26/2014 11:43 AM

Is this something like a K & N filter system?
I believe so, yes.

Is this pertaining to the catalytic converter in the exhaust system?
This I'm not sure on.

Probably easier to find one in junk yard and just put it back to stock for the test.
That's an interesting idea...
Unfortunately, funds are very limited at the moment, so making major changes to the vehicle is the last resort for now.

Thanks all!

TrulyReconciled posted 2/26/2014 11:51 AM

K & N systems can be anything from a filter replacement only, to a complete housing AND filter.

Do they just 'sniff' the exhaust? There's no reason to think that emissions would necessarily be worse with a K & N filter, I think.

Emission Warranties on New Vehicles

THE MYTH: A manufacturer's new-vehicle warranty is automatically voided once an aftermarket part (non-original equipment) is installed.

THE TRUTH: Rarely does the use of aftermarket parts violate a new-vehicle warranty.

THE RULES: Federal law, (the Clean Air Act), requires two emissions warranties: a "defect" warranty and a "performance" warranty.

"Defect" warranties require the vehicle manufacturer to produce a vehicle which, at time of sale, is free of defects that prevent it from meeting required emissions levels for its useful life, as defined in the law.

"Performance" warranties require that vehicle manufacturer make repairs - at no cost to the owner - should a vehicle fail to meet certain levels of emissions performance during the warranty period. This period ranges from 2 years (or 24,000 miles) to 5 years (or 50,000 miles) for most parts, and up to 8 years (or 80,000 miles) for certain emission-controlled parts, specifically, the catalytic converter, the electronics emission-control unit and the on-board diagnostic device (check owner's manual for specifics on your vehicle).

Consumers are protected under a parts self-certification program administered by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).

If a parts maker self-certifies it's parts under this program, the vehicle manufacturer cannot void the emissions warranty even if the certified part fails and/or is directly responsible for the emissions warranty claim. In this situation, the vehicle manufacturer must arrange a settlement with the parts manufacturer, but the new vehicle warranty is not voided under the law.

If a parts maker chooses not to self-certify it's parts, the only case where a vehicle manufacturer can void the emissions warranty is if a non-certified aftermarket part is proven to be responsible for an emissions claim.

GabyBaby posted 2/26/2014 12:11 PM

Thank you so much, TR (and everyone).
I'm an idiot when it comes to cars, so I'll show all these posts to Hubby when I get home and get his input.

wifehad5 posted 2/26/2014 17:19 PM

They can probably help you here:

GabyBaby posted 2/26/2014 17:45 PM

Thanks for the link, Wifehad5!

According to hubby, the part(s) that are aftermarket are the air filter and assembly.
We need a decal from H&N to submit with the documents to DMV.

Grrrrrr......note to self: next time we buy a vehicle, take a closer look under the hood.

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