My IC/MC told me he thinks I need to see a psych for them as my current pain is worse than any I have ever had before. I found soul crushing information that basically puts a lie to my whole last ten years. And have no support from WS. Yesterday I was crying in bed in the morning and he swore and told me he is not feeling well and I was f-n selfish. (he is dealing with an infection in his arm).
But even before that was said I have been feeling such crushing pain it has been intolerable. Before this was bad enough, but I got through. I know I need help, I can't survive this pain. I hate saying stuff like that because I feel weak, I feel pathetic, but this is soul crushing pain and I cry all day and night. I feel pains in my chest, my stomach, my abdomen.
I was hoping for the IC to recommend some homeopathic treatment or hypnosis or something more natural if it exists.
Has any one had any success treating what I guess is clinical depression, really bad, with natural remedies?
Here are some studies you can read about this:
Compared to placebo, treatment with SAMe was associated with an improvement of approximately 6 points in the score of the Hamilton Rating Scale for Depression. (This degree of improvement is clinically significant and is equivalent to a partial response to treatment.)from:
I hope this helps.
It was hell, but the way I handled it was through a combo of, I hate to say it, diet and exercise. I did really low resistance type stuff (like walking, yoga) and I ate a very, very light diet that was essentially vegetarian, but with very little sugar and carbs (so no candy, no bread, not a lot of fruit). I ate some fish, but prepared very simply. Very light portions. And sleep was mostly impossible, so I tried to supplement by doing things like taking long, hot mineral baths and that sort of thing.
Took about 6-9 months of just being consistent with that and I'd say I'm back to probably 90-95% of what my mood was before DDay now. I'm also sleeping normally again. And I've started to eat more normally... but I find that I feel better in general when I still keep things light.
I tried SAM-E and something else (St. Somebody). I didn't notice a difference. I did like to drink Yogi Bedtime tea at night to calm me down. I did start taking an iron supplement to make sure I had energy (given my lack of food and sleep), occasionally protein smoothies for a boost. And I started using magnesium oil after I bathed and it relaxed my muscles.
[This message edited by PhantomLimb at 4:34 PM, March 13th (Thursday)]
Your suggestions are great. A healthy lite diet, cutting out as much processed food and fast food and red meat as possible can help. Also quitting caffeine and sugar helps.
Exercising like yoga, tai chi and walking can naturally elevate the mood.
Next, while I don't have the fix-all answer, here is what helped for me:
• Exercise even when you don't feel like it. Walking counts.
• Cut all sugar out of your diet. It reeks havoc on immune system and brain.
• Drink tons of water and take vitamins. (Omega 3's, Multi, etc)
• Connect with your faith. Life has a bigger meaning than our significant others.
• Meditation/Prayer calms me way down.
• Talk to friends. Talk to family. Ask for help.
• Lavender (Bath & Body makes a good therapy lotion, I believe it's called: Sleep)
Be kind to yourself. Allow yourself to grieve. I know it's painful but you will get though this and you will be so strong.
"Don't look back, the road is long."
The exercise thing....I know it works. It really helped me after first Dday ten years ago. I just have not been able to ...since last October. I say I am going to and I just look at the weights or treadmill and feel such heaviness in my limbs I can't pick one up. This is where I was hoping I could try something to start lifting me up even a little so I could force myself to exercise. Cause i would just cry that I could not even do exercise.
The Lavender bath and body sounds nice, lonely. I have been talking to family more but my contact left me feeling that I was sounding desperate, unleashing so much pain I felt like I was losing control of myself and I need to get a handle on me.
Anyway, makes me feel better just to read all these suggestions and have some hope they will work for me.
My job involves a lot of writing and late nights, so I used to be a pretty bad coffee addict. I'll put it this way, for xmas once, my family bought me stock in Starbucks as a joke.
I gave it up cold turkey about a year and a half ago and switched to green tea. I can tell you that green tea doesn't give you the same immediate pay off as coffee-- but it is a more stable and sustained boost. I basically just chug green tea and water all day.
My fave green tea is Yogi super antioxidant. I don't know what they put in that stuff, but it helps me not cry over missing my latte.
Additionally, supplements are not as well regulated as pharmaceuticals, so quality and dosing is more variable. Be sure to get top quality. And talk with your do for to be sure you're not choosing something that is contraindicated for you.
It wakes me up nicely and helps me concentrate with work, without any jitters and does not affect my sleep. Plus ginseng is supposed to help the immune system.
Another article about SAM-e in Psychiatric Times might be of interest:
Here is a good article about dosage:
Always get a name brand for supplements and usually stay away from discount store brands. Read as much as you can about SAM-e and brands. It seems different brands affect people differently.
Worth a try, no?
[This message edited by Want2help at 1:56 AM, March 14th (Friday)]
Madhatters. More Ddays than birthdays, at this point.
I really believe that drugs should not be taken unless all of the methods listed in the above two books are used first. If you want to know why and about all of the things I have learned about researching the topic, feel free to message me.
Make a list (don't start long), just one or two things that you want to accomplish every day. Do those things and over time add more to that list when you feel you are ready. Force yourself to open up the blinds and get some sunlight. But don't give up on yourself. You can do this! You can do that one thing on your list today.
Have your WS read this: http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2012/05/08/9-best-ways-to-support-someone-with-depression/. It will help him understand more about how to help you.
While I do know that some people have great results with SAM-e and St. John's Wort, I would tend to proceed cautiously if you've had bad reactions to prescription pharmaceuticals.
Two articles that I found interesting --
And, gently, it might also help if your H wasn't being such an ass?
I liked the idea that someone gave about giving yourself one or two goals everyday. This is a great idea for days when you can't function. Life will get better! Hugs.
"Your value doesn't decrease based on someone's inability to see your worth." -Unknown Wise Person