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				    				 Lionne (original poster  member #25560)		posted at 6:46 PM on Saturday, April 5th, 2014	
			 
	Okay, looking for suggestions for shrubs to plant in a shady area, or short ornamental grasses that the deer don't like. Am I kidding myself? I looked on the Rutgers site but really want some RL information. 
 
 
	I am on the east coast, zone 7. 
 
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				    				Sad in AZ ( member #24239)		posted at 7:38 PM on Saturday, April 5th, 2014	
			 
	These are very popular in the west, but they grow in zones 6-9.  I know for a fact they are deer-proof, as the mule deer population is out of control in Alto, NM and they grow all over the place there. They are Kniphofia a/k/a Red Hot Poker plants and come in a variety of colors. 
 
 
	
 
 
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				    				tushnurse ( member #21101)		posted at 7:40 PM on Saturday, April 5th, 2014	
			 
	Not tulips. They munch em off whole. 
 
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				    				Sad in AZ ( member #24239)		posted at 7:42 PM on Saturday, April 5th, 2014	
			 
	Russian Sage (Perovskia atriplicifolia) is another. It's also known as tumbleweed 
 but I doubt you'll have that problem in the east. 
 
 
	
 
 
 
	ETA: I missed the part about shade; kniphofia won't grow in the shade, but Russian sage will.
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				    				 Lionne (original poster  member #25560)		posted at 7:54 PM on Saturday, April 5th, 2014	
			 
	They don't eat anything in the narsissis family either. I do have some Russian sage. I'll get more of that. 
 
 
	It's an new area, a slope, I've given up on grass and the ground cover is too slowly covering it. I need to plant something to stop the drainage there. In my rose/lavender garden, I'm going to invest in a motion activated sprinkler and cross my fingers. They can munch away on the rest. They were here first. 
 
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