When I get to the car BH is of course seething. He asks if AP was in there and I tell him. He seethes some more. We start to leave and then he decides he wants to see what vehicle they are driving so we pull around the parking lot and I show him the same vehicle AP was driving during the A.
We leave and go to the superstore for things for dinner. BH receives the following text from the BW's phone and texts are exchanged as follows:
BW: Didn't know you could move so fast.
Me on BH's phone: This is (BH)'s phone. If this is (AP's BW) I'm very sorry you had to see me. I will always leave if possible if I run into you in public. I have no desire to cause you anymore pain than I already have. Please don't text (BH). Thus far he has said or done nothing to the one who helped me destroy his world but he would very much like to. And if this is not (BW), (BH) is using the utmost restraint.
BW: Utmost restraint is not beating the hell out of you every time I have to see your ugly face.
BH takes the phone and replies: (BW), this is (BH), I have done everything I can to maintain no contact with you and your family. I did not start this interaction and I don't wish to continue it. Please do not force me to take legal measure to enforce no contact. I know you are just as angry as I am but I haven't taken my anger out on you so please don't take yours out on me. Thank you.
BW: Then I will just text your bitch.
BH: Let me be clear. Any further contact from you to any member of my family will be considered harassment and legal action will be taken. I prefer not to bring further drama into my life. I have done nothing to deserve this. My wife is committed to leaving you in peace as much as possible (I know her existence is offensive to you believe me). I will not tolerate more drama being forced on me.
During this time we buy a few things at the superstore. We don't go to the lawn and garden center to get containers because BH wants to leave the store before they decide to show up here too. BH says he feels he is in danger of losing his cool if he is forced to look at the AP again. So we check out and are walking out of the store and they are walking in. BH tells me to turn around and go out the other exit before I notice them, then I see them too. So we are running from the AP and his pissed off BW twice today. I am upset and nauseated. BH is in a state. He says he feels we have let them "piss all over everything." I tell him we will handle things however he wants to. BH goes back in the store to buy drinks and we are walking into an area where AP and his BW are. BH stares the AP down and AP turn his cart and heads down an isle. We check out and go home….
I really want to move away from here.
In the car BH was angry and ranting about why does he have to be in these situations? It reminds him of high school.
I'm helpless. There's nothing I can do to undo what I've done.
I ask him what can I do to help. He says, "Shoot him in the head. Or cease to exist." Neither of those is an option...
I am back to wishing I could cease to exist….
I edit often to fix stuff ☺️
Profoundly grateful Every. Single. Day. that I am blessed with an H with strength, integrity, and compassion, and that he decided to try.
I can't find a damn thing that I would have done different. OK, it sucks. I'm sure Knight is having a hard time, because I know I would be. When the stone hits the pond, it makes a splash. Eventually, it's just ripples tickling the shore. Be strong.
[This message edited by cinnamongurl at 6:14 PM, April 12th (Saturday)]
Why would she feel the need to text you? Seems like she's spoiling for a fight. You didn't give her one, and that pissed her off even more. Your husband has your back, and God knows what OBS is dealing with in their M. As we've often seen on SI, it's common for a BS (especially in early days) to direct her anger at the AP, instead of where it (mostly) belongs, at her own spouse. But over a year and a half out and she's still directing this much vitriol toward you? Hmm. Could she be this threatened by your presence because there's trouble in paradise?
Not that we care what's going on in their lives. Until, I guess, it seeps into ours, as in this case.
Your (both) responses were way more brilliant than anything I could've come up with spontaneously, BTW. Well done.
“The most difficult times for many of us are the ones we give ourselves.”
― Pema Chödrön
Later in the evening he said, "there was no remorse."
Knight: "I looked in his eyes and there was no remorse. Smugness. He was smug and maybe sorry he was caught. But no remorse."
How horrible to be hurt so terribly by someone and feel they don't give a damn. I wish I could find a way to give knight everything he needs to process this toxic mess I've dumped him in and heal his heart and soul.
How horrible. I'm so sorry that you had to experience that.
I think you both handled the situation very well. I hope the OBS will not be contacting either of you again.
Sending good thoughts. I wish the two of you the very best. You're fine people.
Everybody, soon or late, sits down to a banquet of consequences.
~Robert Louis Stevenson
I am back to wishing I could cease to exist…
Honey no. You don't want that, and Knight doesn't either. I have not had to run into AP, but I'm sure that would be a one way ticket to triggertown for both Crazz and I and the result wouldn't be pretty.
This WAS an awful weekend. You guys need to talk about it. Obviously there were unresolved feelings from the other interaction, and stuff like that acts like kindling for the next big spark.
Take a deep breath. Your face is NOT ugly, and your existence is important to many. Breath breathe breathe. This isn't the end - it's a dip. They come and they go. Some are more painful than others. Try to reach out and have a mutually compassionate talk with knight. We're rooting for you both.
(((knightsbff & knight)))
And sure, your BS will feel better in a couple days but what about the resentment he has from being put in this position? What about the feeling of always looking around the corner to see if they're there, and not knowing how either of you will react? That's what I struggle with.
I'm glad you told her you'd leave if you saw her in public but she should have just let it die right there.
[This message edited by rachelc at 7:49 AM, April 13th (Sunday)]
me (WW/BS): 48
4 kiddos in mid 20's
“Relax, everything’s out of control” – Adi Da Samraj
I would definitely change your mobile numbers. I changed mine and it's given us both peace of mind.
Is moving an option? We will be moving soon and it honestly can't come quick enough.
Chin up. Unwavering. Fight. I can do this.
She sent another text reply today. It broke my heart. So humbling to continue to look the at pain I have caused others.
OBW: I want to apologize for yesterday. We have grown a lot through this situation as I know y'all have since you are still together. There are still two areas that I struggle with, one is coming face to face with (KBFF) and the other is having to sleep in the room they had sex in. God has done a mighty work in our lives but I still have a long way to go. I pray that God has also worked in your lives. Again, I apologize for yesterday and next time I will try to remain calm.
Knight: I understand completely. I'm not angry with you. I can't go to the high school, etc. without a lot of pain. I know you must be really hurting. God has worked in my life along with a lot of therapy. I still have a ways to go. I knew that running into y'all would be inevitable, we live in a small community. If there's anything I can do to help you let me know.
OBW: Thanks, you too. Keep praying for God to soften our hearts to his will.
That's all. It made me cry (again). The AP and I had intercourse 3x. In her bed, in his truck, and at the high school. She is still living in her bedroom (hopefully they burned the bed), she was riding around in that truck yesterday, luckily she has no reason to go anywhere near the HS but my DD15 now goes to school there so BH has to go there to watch her perform in plays, the band, her sports.... How could I have been anymore selfish and stupid?!
She actually used my name in her text without a curse word attached to it. I can't imagine what that must have cost her...
This stuff never goes away. Will we ever get strong enough to endure it well? All of it could have been avoided with a few strong boundaries and good choices instead of bad ones.... I could have been the difference in all of our lives. God help me to remember this always and forever...
D-Day, June 10, 2012
This is (BH)'s phone. If this is (AP's BW) I'm very sorry you had to see me. I will always leave if possible if I run into you in public. I have no desire to cause you anymore pain than I already have.
As a BS, this brought tears to my eyes. What I would not give to hear this from my FWH's OW.
I am sorry that you had to go through such a debacle at not only one store, but BOTH, but I feel your response speaks volumes.
I wish you well on your healing journey.
Will we ever get strong enough to endure it well?
Yes. I strongly believe it. The fact that OBW was able to apologize is proof of this. Small steps for EVERYONE towards healing.
So for now we won't change our numbers. I can't really fault OBW for firing off a text after running into me. I bet if we would have ignored the initial text it would have ended. Unfortunately BH was badly triggering and I engaged to prove to him that the text was from OBS and not the AP (I knew it wasn't).
As for moving, we would both like to move, but this is where we need to be for now. I dream of living somewhere foreign and far away from here...like New York, or Montana...where it snows (and I HATE the cold).
It's really good to think of the OBW experiencing healing too. My mind has a snapshot of her in agony on her d-day and the few weeks after. We had been in contact several times then and I was truly trying to help but was still very foggy so I was just a blundering hot mess of NOT helpfulness. I know it's for selfish reasons (guilt) but I pray for her to find peace, happiness, healing, to feel prized above all others by her husband, to know her value as a person, mother, wife, professional, woman, etc. these are the things I want for my BH and myself as well (the male versions for BH ).
picking out some pots for a bunch of plants that I want to grow in containers.