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4everfaithful83 (original poster member #41761) posted at 11:22 PM on Thursday, May 8th, 2014
Title says it all...
When/How do Waywards earn their F's??
Always know if the juice is worth the squeeze...
ME: 36
1 doggie
DDay: June 24th, 2013
DDay 2 : August 22nd,2017
Left him August 26th, 2017
Lucky2HaveMe ( member #13333) posted at 11:50 PM on Thursday, May 8th, 2014
That is purely an individual decision. For me, it was when I saw consistent, proven work & growth from him. And that took years, not months. I was very leery as I had 9mos of TT that marred the first year. Every time he would say "Swear to God there is nothing else..." but there was.
When it finally all came out, he hit bottom. He spent the next year in IC and a support group. He spent the the year recommitting to his family. He grew as a man, husband, dad, friend. That's when he earned his F.
7 years later, he is now *just* my H.
Love isn't what you say, it's what you do.
steadfast1973 ( member #24719) posted at 12:40 AM on Friday, May 9th, 2014
i can't wait until he's just H again!
We had gotten there, then he had relapsed, and became WH, again... He's earning the f. But it's scary. We are at a point where his remorse almost causes more anxiety than comfort... Because I am starting to trust... And it's scary to even consider! After 2 ddays, I am a little leery of allowing myself this trust...
Me- 42- BS Him- 38- WH D-day#1 5/25/09 multi EAs, likely PA, trickle truth, d-day#2 11/06/13 Prostitute Separated 1/2017
"I've seen your flag on the marble arch, our love is not a victory march, it's a cold and broken hallelujah"
brkn_heartd ( member #30396) posted at 3:01 AM on Friday, May 9th, 2014
My H earned his F about 2 years post Dday. It took a lot of effort on his part and I no longer was fearful of being hurt by him in the same way that he hurt me before. When I told him he earned and F and explained what I mean, he cried. He felt honored.
About 2 years after that, he lost his W. He is now just H. But once again, he had to continue to earn that. I do not hurt daily and feel safe most of the time. Without his work and dedication, he would not have lost it.
So...it is individual to each of us. I think your husband earns his F when you think he has earned it. ...an you believe he is now in "former" wayward status.
Good luck to you!
Me-57 BS
Him 65-WS
Married 38 yrs, together 40
Affair Aug-Dec 09
official D-12/14/09
broke NC 1/31/10
second D 3/19/10
learningtofeel ( member #39543) posted at 4:15 AM on Friday, May 9th, 2014
We are only a little more than a year out, but Aboutdamntime has worked so hard and is so aware of himself and his actions that he earned his "f" about six months out. He REALLY REALLY REALLY wants a different way of life FOR HIMSELF. Conveniently, I win in that too, but this is really about how he finally wanted to become whole. He has taken such good care of me along the way, too. He encourages me to feel my feelings and share them with him. He wants to hear my pain and face it.
But that's us. Everyone on their own path, their own timetable.
M 1989
3 young adult kids
D-Day 4.13.13
WS (him): 7 OW over 15 years
BS (me): had no clue
D-Day 2: 10.19.19, OW#8, a co-worker
Told him I was DONE
Herkemeyer ( member #36910) posted at 10:33 AM on Friday, May 9th, 2014
I think I gave out the F way too early. It was about a year, then at 18 mos. more TT. I'm not really sure it matters. She is ultimately going to do what she wants regardless.
BH-43
(F?)WW-39 (neznayou)
DDay-08/10/12 TT for 18 Months (I think)
Married 19 years
lordhasaplan? ( member #30079) posted at 3:04 PM on Friday, May 9th, 2014
Its not mine to give. Only she knew when she was a former Wayward. For me she is my W as soon as I was committed to reconciliation. I think a BS making the call on when someone's internal dialogue, old coping skills, and poor decision making are eradicated is impossible. At best we can see their actions and that only provides us a small glimpse into their real work. Leave the distribution of the F to the WS's. Their decisions when they give it to themselves can be an enlightening process in and of itself.
BS- Me (45)D-day: 5/18/10, lies and TT till (11/26/10). Currently in R.Don't carry others crap. It's your job to fix yourself, not your spouse.
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