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plainpain (original poster member #40139) posted at 5:30 AM on Tuesday, May 13th, 2014
So, awkward, but... I told my H I wanted to go shopping for new underwear and I asked him what his favourite colour was. He said "baby blue... on you". Then he kind of flinched, changed the subject for about two minutes, before coming back to it again.
So, basically we now know OW wore baby blue underwear for him. Which leaves me in the mind-exploding situation of having to choose:
1. Never wear underwear in his favourite colour, knowing OW did, after he specifically said that is what he wanted.
2. Buy the baby blue, knowing OW was half my age, half my size, and will definitely have looked better in pretty much anything and nothing at all.
Either way, he had the flashback because of what I asked him. Clearly, he didn't want to. CLEARLY, what I do not want is to have him flashback to that when I am standing in front of him in underwear.
I do not want to have a con.ver.sa.tion with him about OW and her underwear, so I can't ask him what to do.
Thoughts from menz and waywards welcome. I just want to please him, without humiliating myself and reminding him of how much I am NOT 21. He already told me (while in the fog) that she was more beautiful than me... though he has since recanted on that (as if you can recant on that). I just hate this so very much.
Me: Believer, 40s
Him: Liar, 40s
Married 19 years
1 year EA/2 month PA/incidental infidelities I can't begin to process
OC born 2014
OW:21
In successful R. It only hurts now when it rains.
tired girl ( member #28053) posted at 6:49 AM on Tuesday, May 13th, 2014
What would not trigger YOU?
Have the two of you ever gone shopping somewhere like VS for underwear together where you can get his opinion on what he would like? And you can both pick something out?
Me 47 Him 47 Hardlessons
DS 27,25,23
D Day's becoming less important as time moves on.
"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." Eleanor Roosevelt
My bad for trying to locate remorse on your morality map. OITNB
gonnabe2016 ( member #34823) posted at 7:07 AM on Tuesday, May 13th, 2014
I would avoid baby blue. There is just too much *trigger* in that color right now. Do NOT wear a color that is going to make you feel like shit or *less than.*
Figure out what color (OTHER than baby blue) looks *rockin'* on you (either on your own, friend's advice, or *store* expert) and load up on that color. You will feel confident and you will bring the house down. Find lingerie that will allow you to go into an encounter with your WH feeling confident and sexy.......your attitude will most likely set the tone.
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive." - Sir Walter Scott
In my effort to be *concise*, I often come off as blunt and harsh. Sorry, don't mean to be offensive.
Zayda1 ( member #35387) posted at 11:38 AM on Tuesday, May 13th, 2014
If it were me I would avoid baby blue. Get some crazy neon colors or go for leopard print. What would YOU be comfortable wearing?
Married 10 years, together for 12 years
2 children (9 years & 6 years)
Discovery of PA 04/15/12 (It only lasted a "couple of weeks" but it still shattered my world.)
RockyMtn ( member #37043) posted at 12:43 PM on Tuesday, May 13th, 2014
No baby blue. I'm not a dude, but even those who have favorites when it comes to lingerie...they can forget it pretty quickly when presented with gorgeous alternatives in the flesh.
Me, BS, 30s
Him, WS, 30s, Steppenwolf
Kids: Yep
D-Day 1: September 2011, 6 week EA
D-Day 2: January 2013, discovered EA was a PA; there was another PA in 2010. All TT.
Goal = serenity.
tushnurse ( member #21101) posted at 1:45 PM on Tuesday, May 13th, 2014
Can I just say what a Jackass.
I too agree that Baby Blue is out of the fucking question, and I would also encourage you to tell him that. Nope aint' gonna happen as long as there is breath in my lungs.
Now to resolve the issue; YOU should choose what YOU like, and what feels and looks good to you. When you do that then you can wear them with confidence, and comfort, and honey that is way sexier than wearing something that he said he wants you to wear. Being strong, confident, and self assured is way more sexy than looking for approval.
Personally I went from wearing cotton granny panties to the microfiber boy shorts after dDay. I also bought myself some really pretty, and sexy ones, and I wear them on a regular basis, not just when I want to have sexy fun time. The thing is when you feel sexy, and pretty you exude that no matter what your size is.
Me: FBSHim: FWSKids: 23 & 27 Married for 32 years now, was 16 at the time.D-Day Sept 26 2008R'd in about 2 years. Old Vet now.
JanaGreen ( member #29341) posted at 1:59 PM on Tuesday, May 13th, 2014
I vote you get whatever makes YOU feel beautiful.
brokensmile322 ( member #35758) posted at 2:12 PM on Tuesday, May 13th, 2014
Yep.. There would be no baby blue in my drawer either.
I know what it is like to have the younger OW without an ounce of fat and no stretch marks because she is unmarried and has no children.
No way would I ever allow myself to be compared….standing there in baby blue underwear. Jerk!
Sometime down the road, if **I** wanted baby blue, then I would buy them, for me. BUT never, ever would I buy them for him, to please him.
Hugs! You are beautiful. Remind yourself.
Me BS 42 Him WS 44
OW Coworker DDay April 7, 2012
EA on a slippery slope...
When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves. ~Viktor Frankl
"When you are happy, you can forgive a great deal."
BetrayedbyONS ( member #42603) posted at 2:26 PM on Tuesday, May 13th, 2014
I agree with gonnabe2016. Find out what looks good on you other than baby blue.
My wife wears basically black, white or flesh color (to match her skin color) and she rocks them all. She wears sexy underwear every day, not just for special occasions. She has always done this. At first when we were dating many years ago I thought she wore sexy underwear just for me but then when we moved in together I discovered that she did not own any non-sex underwear. I asked her about this and she told me then that she wears them to make herself feel sexy and she had been doing that since she moved out on her own in her late teens.
I have to admit, when she gets undressed and I see her in just her bra and panties it is a real turn-on. It is not just that she is still physically attractive. I think a big key part of it is that SHE feels sexy and exudes the sexy self confidence. She still exudes that sexy self confidence even after giving birth to two children naturally and the resulting changes to her body (i.e. stretch marks, weight gain, slight sagging of her breasts). I attribute part of her sex self confidence to the fact that she wears sexy undergarments every day.
WS her 34 (when it occurred)
BS me 46 (when it occurred)
Together 9 years, married 5 (when it occurred)
2 children (1 and 3 years old when it occured)
twisted ( member #8873) posted at 3:24 PM on Tuesday, May 13th, 2014
Obviously it's not the "baby blue" that's the problem, it's the "...on you" part.
On behalf of the male half of the species, I'd like to apologize for us being complete morons at the worse possible times.
Since he "flinched", we can assume he realized what an idiotic thing leaped out of his mouth.
BbONS
I think a big key part of it is that SHE feels sexy and exudes the sexy self confidence. ... I attribute part of her sex self confidence to the fact that she wears sexy undergarments every day.
Would someone explain this to my WW! It is all about attitude. Men aren't looking for perfection, we're looking for willingness to please and a sexy attitude.
"Hey, does this rag smell like chloroform to you?
sisoon ( Moderator #31240) posted at 3:26 PM on Tuesday, May 13th, 2014
2 slight alternatives to gonna's great approach:
buy 1) your favorite color or 2) the color you feel best in (could be 2 different colors), whether it looks good on you or not. (Of course, if favorite = feel best = friends say you rock is the same color, that would be ideal, but the key is to please yourself.)
What you did sexually had nothing to do with your H's choosing to cheat, and I think letting him choose the color of your lingerie will have no impact on his doing or not doing his work for R.
Showing him what you like best is doing your H a favor. I mean that seriously.
fBH (me) - on d-day: 66, Married 43, together 45, same sex apDDay - 12/22/2010Recover'd and R'edYou don't have to like your boundaries. You just have to set and enforce them.
Rebreather ( member #30817) posted at 4:19 PM on Tuesday, May 13th, 2014
I agree that baby blue probably would be banned for life in my house.
But, I think this is something you need to talk to him about. It is probably going to suck, but you don't know for sure what his reaction was about. We get into trouble when we try to read minds. So I would suggest telling him you need to talk about what happened, and then hold hands and walk through that mine field together. Gently.
Me BS
Him WH
2 ddays in '07
Rec'd.
"The cure for the pain, is the pain." -Rumi
WhatsRight ( member #35417) posted at 4:25 PM on Tuesday, May 13th, 2014
Am I the only person who thinks he could have meant that on YOU he likes baby blue - but maybe he preferred another color on HER?
Sorry if I'm dense. Having a bad day.
"Noone can make you feel inferior without your concent." Eleanor Roosevelt
I will not be vanquished. Rose Kennedy
LdyD ( member #42870) posted at 4:41 PM on Tuesday, May 13th, 2014
Personally I went from wearing cotton granny panties to the microfiber boy shorts after dDay. I also bought myself some really pretty, and sexy ones, and I wear them on a regular basis, not just when I want to have sexy fun time. The thing is when you feel sexy, and pretty you exude that no matter what your size is.
I'm a full figured woman but I did the same as above (except I replaced high cut briefs with lacy thongs! I chose what colors look the best on me, and it makes WH wild! He loves them all because they're on me! Choose what colors/styles YOU like! Avoid baby blue like the plague!
Me - BW: 43
Him - Ex WH: 42
D-Day #1: 2/16/14 - OW #2
D-Day #2: 11/21/14 -OW #1 Exgf and mom of his 1st DD 2 year EA via email started 2 months after we married.
TT and 9 months of False R - Separated in house and Divorcing.
Married 12 years, Tog
LifeIsTooWeird ( member #42093) posted at 4:52 PM on Tuesday, May 13th, 2014
I went on a panty shopping spree too, not for him, for myself. I bought all sorts of colors and patterns and even though they don't sell them as matching sets anymore, if you find a bottom or top that catches you eye, get it and be one the lookout for a match next time around. I went with lacy, silky, panties in low rise, and boy short styles. Comfortable push up bras to accentuate the girls. I also got 2 packages of cottons for that week :).
[This message edited by LifeIsTooWeird at 10:53 AM, May 13th (Tuesday)]
Me - GF (38)
Him - BF (33)
DDay - 08/13
Together 8 Years
In R
kansas1968 ( member #32214) posted at 6:01 PM on Tuesday, May 13th, 2014
I think most men always love red and or black. Baby -blue would be out for me I think. Just get a sexy black bra and panties, or red, and knock him out.
Me - BS
Him - FWS
DD - December 14, 2010
Married 43 years 1/14/2011
Affair lasted 7+ years
Affair had been over for 2 years before I found out. OW sent me a letter.
standingonmarble ( member #31217) posted at 6:15 PM on Tuesday, May 13th, 2014
If it was me I would go get some baby blue stuff, surprise him with it, give him a night to remember and then toss it.
Eventually the good memories that you make with him will crowd out and diminish his other memories. It takes time though...unless he is unwilling to let them go. That's on him, not you. Don't do that to yourself.
FOG talk is so painful and just unreliable. She might have had a pretty shell but underneath it is just rotten, and that's not something that baby blue can cover up.
At one time he was a man standing on marbles. Now I am a woman standing on marble.....
We are done fighting with each other and decide to fight FOR each other.
Crushed15Feb13 ( member #38846) posted at 6:16 PM on Tuesday, May 13th, 2014
I fall on the side of thinking that baby blue should be retired permanently. I hate the idea of comparisons.
I'm not sure what this says about me, but I find the leopard prints pretty exciting, wild and sexy. That and basic black.
Completely agree with the advice about wearing what YOU like and what makes YOU feel good though. I think feeling good about yourself is an attitude that's contagious, and good things can happen.
[This message edited by Crushed15Feb13 at 12:17 PM, May 13th (Tuesday)]
Me: BH, 56
Her: WW, 56 5+ yr LTA
Married 34 yrs, 2 DS
DDay #1: 15Feb13 - OBS phone call
DDay #2: 27Jan14 - TT, length of affair 1.5 yrs longer than admitted.
Trying to understand
MoreWould ( member #37982) posted at 6:17 PM on Tuesday, May 13th, 2014
Take it from a male MH who is over 30 years out from my W's A, and almost that far from mine.
There is nothing in the world that looks as good as a trigger feels bad. Even this far out. Baby Blue is over for you, possibly for life.
Waywards say so much stupid stuff there's a recurring thread on SI devoted to the topic. Possibly because when they get triggered, their brain stops working for a little while. We have to learn to forgive them. It ain't easy but it can be done.
And last, my loving W went to being a WW in a few memorable seconds, and then to a FWW over a long period of time, and now graduated back to my W. She was in her 20's when this all started, her 60's now, but through it all I never stopped thinking she was beautiful.
Not the same kind of beautiful, but hey, I lost some hair and put on some pounds and aren't the same kind of handsome I used to be either.
You'll do just fine, in any color undies but baby blue.
Me BH/WH, 63
Her WW/BW, 62
Her DDay Dec 1976 OMW at the door
My DDay, ~ 2years later, confessed ONS the next day
R via "Sweeping under the rug"
Still married, 40 yrs, mostly OK
2 kids, 24 & 20
bytheboard ( member #37741) posted at 6:17 PM on Tuesday, May 13th, 2014
There is a lot of good advice here... I agree with so much and not a lot to add... But I wanted to send some love and support your way. I am sorry for the pain that comes with that trigger and I really hope you can do some shopping that makes YOU happy!!
BW: sparrow 34
WH: 45 SA(regretswhatidid)
DDays: 9/3/12 ,9/10/12 ,9/12/12 ,10/01/12 ,12/03/12, 2/24/12... quit counting most recent 4/19/17 all pre DDay but no end to TT
3x ONS= 2CL hook-ups,1 on TDY
46 Craigslist Ads, AFF, chatrooms,
4EA w/pas
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