* I am a RS (Recovering Scumbag)
* Do as I say, NOT as I did. :-(
* I acknowledge the grace I have received. I know do not deserve it.
There are so many what ifs in life. What if I hadn't dated ex? What if I had never met QS? What if I never lost my baby. What if, what if.
However, those are not reality. And to get into fights about the possibilities? Not productive.
QS asked me several times, "What if you had met AP4. What would have happened?" Well I don't know! If I could see past, present, and future, I'd make money off it.
Would I have f*cked AP? Well....50/50 chance. I know the physical act was crossing a line. I was terrified of that. So maybe I would have backed out. But I also know I was wicked emotionally damaged. So really, there is no telling. Bottom line, I didn't. Doesn't matter. My wayward behaviors and thought processes were on full display. That's bad enough.
He hasn't asked me that question in a while. And when he does, its more of a "tell me what was going thru your mind. Tell me what you've learned" type of way.
I dunno how to answer your question. I can relate, but don't really know the answer. I think I told QS what I did above. I have no way of knowing, but it was a possibility, and I'm sorry he has these unanswerable questions and doubts.
This is something I'm working on now. But when my BH goes down that path all he can hear is me denying responsibility for what did happen. KWIM? So instead of saying, but that didn't happen (denial) I'm working on saying, you are right that my boundaries have been terrible and I have done things I knew you wouldn't like.
I'm not good at this. I often forget to do that. But my C and I spent a lot of time talking about what is important to communicate in these situations. Ownership, acknowledgment of the lacking boundaries, and apology.
TBH, a lot of her *what if* questions are probably rhetorical. Right now, she's asking herself those questions internally a hell of a lot more than she is asking you. She is struggling to redefine you as a person. I know you've heard this before, but actions speak more loudly than mere words.
How long will this go on? 2-5 years of consistently *proving* yourself to her. Hopefully, due to your actions, she is building a profile of you that shows you to be a safe person to her.
We are just past 2 years out. I haven't asked her *what if* in probably 6-8 months. Doesn't mean I haven't asked myself.
Keep it up! R is not for the faint of heart.
Ownership, acknowledgment of the lacking boundaries, and apology.
I think what you need to do is let her feel and process this,and then take about it. Don't make it a 'big fight'. Make it a catch for her to get out all of her emotions and feelings and your job is to listen, re-assure, and not try to prove her what if questions are wrong.
Separated transitioning to D
You know that this was a boundary that you wouldn't cross, but she doesn't know that. How could she? She thought that you were one type of person and you have shown that you are not at all who she thought you were, so now everything is up for debate, now she has to question every boundary that you might cross.
Be patient with her, allow her the what if's. And re assure her that these things won't happen and apologize for the fact that you have brought this fear into her life. After all, you are the source of this. Try not to get frustrated. At some point she will begin to trust again the person that is beginning to take shape in front of her.
Thanks for your reply. I must have given the wrong impression about strip clubs, see below.
I don't mean this in a snarky way, but she knew strip joints were a part of your life. She married you anyway.
Does your BS feel as though you are taking responsibility for your choices and actions?
I adamantly disagree, I know I am a better person now because of this horrible life experience and I also know that I never ever want to go back to the way I was.
You know that but she does not. I think you need to be a little more empathetic in your communication, see it from her point of view, and let her know that you understand why she thinks this way, that you understand how your actions have made her think this.
You know that this was a boundary that you wouldn't cross, but she doesn't know that. How could she? She thought that you were one type of person and you have shown that you are not at all who she thought you were, so now everything is up for debate, now she has to question every boundary that you might cross
I completely agree. I showed her someone who was completely different that who I really was for many years and hid all of the terrible things I did. So, you are right, why would she think that anything would have been out bounds for me. I would probably feel the same way if things were reversed. I need to do a better job of stopping and putting myself in her shoes even when we are in a discussion.
Thanks for your response.
thank you. I was just thinking the exact same thing because of what tired girl had written.