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User Topic: 4th antiversary triggers....
sisoon
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Default  Posted: 2:17 PM, August 11th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

To folks who are in earlier stages of R: It may be daunting to read that someone who claims R is going well is writing about feeling lousy more than 3.5 years after d-day, so I want to preface this with the following:

R still goes well. My W is committed to reclaim herself. She still loves me and is IL with me. I still love her and am IL with her. I still consider myself very close to the state I's call 'recovered', and I think we're pretty close to R'd. This isn't even a bump in the road. It just is. I'm sad, and I'm writing to get that off my chest.

During my W's A, we took an annual Thanksgiving trip to see family and friends. We basically took the same trip for vacation. We got home yesterday (physically, that is - I'm still negotiating the waves on the Jersey shore in my head). Just before we left for vacation, we saw The Devil Wears Prada. I mention that because my W kept telling me that her A was actually her work. (The heroine of TDWP loses her boyfriend because she chose work over him.)

August 8-9, 2010 was the start of sex between my W and ow. We were visiting some friends in 2010 during the A, and we left those same friends on 8/9. (People who grok numbers & dates know why I'm saying that.... )

The whole trip was a trigger. This trip was way different from 2010, of course. I had some of the feelings of the 2010 trip, but I knew as they occurred that they were residual feelings and that my W is very different now.

I asked a lot of questions about the A during the trip and felt awful while I was doing it. I think - AND HOPE - I'm wrapping up some loose ends, but who knows? I got some new info that cut very deep. OTOH, I said some things to my W about how I was reacting to her A that she wishes she had known earlier.

I feel like a wreck. My W says I'm nowhere near in as bad shape as I was after the 2011, 2012, and 2013 trips. Go figure.

My W said some of my questions and comments helped her figure out her part in the A. I don't understand why it took so long for her to understand some of those things, but I'm me, and she's not. (She gets some things a lot quicker than I do, after all....)

For example, she was manipulated into the A by threats of suicide. I think she said she just got that she could have said, 'If suicide is so imminent, I'll call 911.' Personally, I think that would have led to different manipulation, but I think W now sees she could have kept her boundaries up. That probably would have meant losing the relationship, but she lost that - and a lot besides - anyway.

I wrote to blaketseele a couple of hours ago that sometimes we use words not to illuminate but to protect ourselves. WRT this post, I'm writing so many words because I don't really understand what I'm feeling, other than sad and mad about my W's A.

I think writing this has helped me. I'm just not sure it'll help anyone else....

(signed) sisoon, more confused than usual....


fBH (me) - 70 (22 in my head), fWW (plainsong) - 65+, Married 45+, together since 1965
DDay - 12/22/2010
Recover'd and R'ed
I share my own experience because it's the only experience I know, not because I'm a good model.

Posts: 10775 | Registered: Feb 2011 | From: Chicago area
rachelc
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Default  Posted: 2:32 PM, August 11th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

((sisoon))


his Dday: 2/10 but TT until 7/11
my Ddays: 1/12, 4/12 broken NC 12/12

me (WW/BS): 48
him: (BS/WH)52
4 kiddos in mid 20's

“Follow your intuition. Be smart, be brave. Tell the truth and don’t take any shit.”


Posts: 5789 | Registered: Dec 2010 | From: Midwest
seethelight
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Default  Posted: 2:33 PM, August 11th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

{{{{{{{{{sissoon}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

The vacation was obviously a trigger.

As Peggy Vaughn has written, It's unrealistic for a wayward spouse to expect a betrayed spouse to ever get over a trusted spouses affair.

It will always be a wound. Healed over maybe to a scar, but even scars ache sometimes on cloudy days.

I get what you mean when you said you felt bad for needing to talk about the affair.

I feel that way, now almost always, when I am triggered and bring up the affair.

I really hate needing to talk about it sometimes.


“If two people truly have feelings for one another then they don’t have an affair. They get a divorce and they sort out their feelings. You are accountable for the people you hold hostage in a marriage when your mind and heart refuse to fully commit

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Crushed15Feb13
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Default  Posted: 3:10 PM, August 11th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I got some new info that cut very deep.

So sorry, Sisoon. The same thing recently happened to me. And I've been feeling sad about it too.

My WW says her AP manipulated her also, and I sometimes wonder if those words are meant to as you point out, not illuminate, but protect herself.

I wish I could be the help to you that you have been to me, but just know you'll be in my thoughts today.


Me: BH, 54
Her: WW, 54 4 yr LTA
Married 32 yrs, 2 college age boys
DDay #1: 15Feb13 - LTA 2008-2013
DDay #2: 27Jan14 - ONS, same AP 2007 - turns out it was a 6 yr LTA
Trying to understand

Posts: 267 | Registered: Mar 2013 | From: Colorado
wolf_heart
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Default  Posted: 4:03 PM, August 11th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Sometimes I think WS don't know just how deep the wounds go. How many triggers there are to the A.

Can you change the vacation location? Maybe do something different next year to stop the triggers?

I feel bad when I have the need to ask more questions too. I feel that I should have all the answers already and not have to bother him anymore. Well, I still have plenty of questions. Some I will probably not ever ask. At least your Ws was willing to help you understand things.

Good luck on your R. We know minor hiccups will happen no matter how much time has past.


Married 27 years
BW: Me, 48
WH: 48
DDay#2: March 2012
DDay#1: October 1992
Attempting R
Without honesty, loyalty, and commitment; saying you love someone, simply means nothing.

Posts: 328 | Registered: Apr 2012 | From: Southwestern Area of USA
LA44
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Default  Posted: 5:42 PM, August 11th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Just sending a big Cdn hug to you, ((Sisoon)). I negotiate waves too...here's to finding some peace in the water you tread. Glad your wife is there to answer questions and discover more about herself.


Me: 44
He: 47 WH
Married: 15 years
D Day: December 2012
Affair: Fall 2009 - Dec. 2011
R is not linear

Posts: 2677 | Registered: Feb 2013 | From: Canada, eh
karmahappens
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Default  Posted: 7:51 PM, August 11th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((Sisoon)))

thought about you lots this week.

The whole trip was a trigger

you aren't a wreck, you are a man who had a lot to take in....a man who has processed his wife's A with dignity, compassion and a desire to grow and understand.

I applaud you for not stuffing...at 3 1/2 years out many people would be uncomfortable bringing it up and not being "healed"

You face your truth, accept your wife's and continue to move forward.

I hope you feel better soon, but know that just feeling, good or bad, is really good.

(((hugs)))


“And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom”
Anaïs Nin
Me: 45
Him: 47
Dday 8/2007
We have R'd

Posts: 3872 | Registered: Jun 2012 | From: Massachusetts
sisoon
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Default  Posted: 9:01 PM, August 11th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thanks for the hugs. They help.

For the record, my W took responsibility immediately on d-day. She's never used being manipulated as an excuse. She's been honest and supportive since d-day.

The new info could be TT. I count it as 'just didn't come up', though, because she's answered all my questions, and she's volunteered stuff that I didn't ask about. Also, this never would have been a deal breaker at any stage. It just fell through the cracks until now.


fBH (me) - 70 (22 in my head), fWW (plainsong) - 65+, Married 45+, together since 1965
DDay - 12/22/2010
Recover'd and R'ed
I share my own experience because it's the only experience I know, not because I'm a good model.

Posts: 10775 | Registered: Feb 2011 | From: Chicago area
hopefull77
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Default  Posted: 11:41 PM, August 11th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thank you for sharing...
You are a voice I listen to on this site...
love wins in the end.....bruises and all...


me-BS
him-WS
3 adult children 1D 2S
married-1977
LTA 06-2010 - 11-2012
D-day - 11-11-2012
status - reconciling and very hopeful
"Let Go of Control; Let God's Life Flow" ...Richard Rohr



Posts: 705 | Registered: Apr 2014 | From: sunny california
HardenMyHeart
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Default  Posted: 12:52 AM, August 12th (Tuesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

sisoon, sorry to hear you are struggling a bit. Sending best wishes that tomorrow is a better day.


Me: BH, Her: FWW - Long Term EA/PA
d-day: June 25, 2007
Married 30 years, Reconciled

Inner peace begins the moment you choose not to allow another person or event to control your emotions.


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