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doistay2008
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Default  Posted: 11:42 AM, April 1st (Tuesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

BMC,

Your posts have given me hope that I can work through the anger. Not sure what H and I are going to do. Today is out 2 year anniversary. I do feel threatened that someone else could have his child and I couldn't. But I don't want to have negative feeling toward the child forever.
Thank you. I am adding your posts to my personal healing journal :)


Me: 30
Him: 30
Married 2 years/
Togetherish 8
OC: born feb 08
No COM

Posts: 210 | Registered: Mar 2008
SadMommie
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Sad  Posted: 12:43 PM, April 1st (Tuesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hi everyone,

I am really sad today. My H and I decided that he needed to make the right decisions about our marriage without my direct input (ie - me telling him what to do) After two days, he failed to mention 10 text messages from the OW. I told him that I couldn't live a life that I had to look over my shoulder. I wanted a life without his baggage. I guess it is over and I just can't stop crying. He is trying to place a guilt trip that I am taking our kids away from him on a daily basis. I reminded him that I did not make the decision to turn away from our marriage and create another child, one that is innocent but I cannot accept as part of my life.

I just don't know where to turn. He wants to do what he wants and not give me what I need most- security and peace of mind. My head knows this is probably for the best but my heart is having a hard time.

I am sorry to dump this on you guys. I just don't know where to turn. Thanks for listening.


Me - 36
H - 35
Kids - D-6years, S-3year
OC - 2 year old
OW - POS crazy 25 year old
D-Day - April 10, 2007

"I am where I am because of the bridges that I crossed." - Oprah Winfrey

"Excuse me, what level of Hell is this?" - Bu


Posts: 91 | Registered: Jan 2008 | From: Virginia
auntcis
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Default  Posted: 12:52 PM, April 1st (Tuesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

((((SadMommie))))

I'm so sorry! Sometimes thing's don't work the way we wish they would no matter how hard we try. It sounds to me like your H has his head placed firmly up his backside(I hope that doesn't offend you). Maybe this will be the wakeup call he needs. I hope it all turns out alright.


Me;36FBS,Him;31FWH,married 14yrs
D14,S12,S8,OC13
OC was adopted 8/13/09
"Lucky I'm in love with my best friend."

Posts: 3519 | Registered: Aug 2007 | From: New York
BMC0415
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Default  Posted: 12:55 PM, April 1st (Tuesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

((Sadmommie))

I am so sorry that it has come to this. My H and I were separated for 3 weeks and it almost killed me. My main motivation was to focus on me and my kids and that is what I did during that time.

I had no intention of taking him back at the time and he was very cocky until he lived with OW for 3 weeks and came to realize that is the same as living on the streets.

I know it will be hard,but maybe you need sometime apart for him can get of the fence. I don't understand him making decisions in your marriage that does not have your input, it just doesn't work. It is hard enough to even having OC existing, but when your H is not being remorseful, including you in the contact, put your feelnigs into account, it is almost near to impoosible to continue to have a happy, productive marriage.

Only you know what you can live with, is this what you can live with?

I am hoping that things turn around for you. I will be thinking of you and your family.

Hugs

[This message edited by BMC0415 at 1:07 PM, April 1st (Tuesday)]


Me: 40+ Him: 40+
Married: 20+ years
D-Day: 3/7/07
Children: 24dd,23ds,21dd
10 yr. LTA 3OC w/OW 10,10,14 8/14/12-gave custody of twins to ex 8/16/12-DIVORCED!

Posts: 2910 | Registered: Mar 2007 | From: Maryland
doistay2008
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Default  Posted: 1:38 PM, April 2nd (Wednesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Group,
Sorry to always bring questions to you, but I have another one. Yesterday was our 2 year aniversary. Aside from saying happy anniversary, we did not celebrate. One our one year anniversary, he took me out and booked a hotel for the weekend and thewhole nine. He told me that he was happy that he married me etc. One month later he had the affair (btw at the time of our anniversary, he had already started seeing this girl whom he did not tell he had a wife, but it became physical shortly after our anniversary)

Anyway, d-day was two months ago, and baby born one month ago. So I was not in the mood for celebrations.

But my question is: will anniversaries always be like this? Does it get better?


Me: 30
Him: 30
Married 2 years/
Togetherish 8
OC: born feb 08
No COM

Posts: 210 | Registered: Mar 2008
redvixen
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Default  Posted: 7:24 PM, April 2nd (Wednesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Doistay, anniversaries change over the years. If you decide to stay together, then you'll find over time there will be anniversaries where you'll do the whole nine, and others where you're lucky you exchange cards. All part of the rollercoaster of life. Plus, all this turmoil is still very new for you, and that will change things. If your H is sincere, and you want to make it work, your anniversaries (and holidays/birthdays, etc.) will certainly get better over time. Sure, you'll have blue moments, and occasional triggers (that will seem to come from nowhere at times) but they will lessen.


Me, BS Him WS early 40's at the start, cheated before and after cancer diagnosis.
Two A's, two OW's, online looking for sex partners, two false R's.
Threw him out in January 2009.
Divorce final March 30th, 2010

XWH died Dec. 2010


Posts: 4104 | Registered: Jul 2007 | From: New Jersey
auntcis
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Default  Posted: 6:04 AM, April 3rd (Thursday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I couldn't say it ant better than redvixen already did.

The only thing I would add is that for me our wedding anniversary was something I wasn't going to let OW take from me, she took too much already.


Me;36FBS,Him;31FWH,married 14yrs
D14,S12,S8,OC13
OC was adopted 8/13/09
"Lucky I'm in love with my best friend."

Posts: 3519 | Registered: Aug 2007 | From: New York
sinhurts
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Default  Posted: 10:45 AM, April 7th (Monday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I originally posted in the Reconciliation forum and was directed here. I cut and pasted my post from there.I just found out about my husbands five year long affair on Feb 24. The OW is lives in latin america and he was basically leading a double life. We have five children ages 20, 15, 13, 10 and 7. We are attempting to reconcile and it seems that we are doing everything "right" If my husband can maintain the level of empathy and commitment to me and our relationship I know we can make it. Unfortunately the OW gave birth to his(?) child last May. We are in the process of trying to get a DNA test to validate the claim. Most likely the child is my husbands but we want to be sure. He paid for the delivery and has been sending her money every month. My question is for people who are dealing with this issue. How do you manage a NC agreement and visitation issues and everything else that goes along with sharing a child. I desparately wanted another child after our fifth but the marriage was in such trouble I knew it would be imprudent to conceive. I am willing to adopt the child if the OW will give him up and if I feel secure that the change in my husband is lasting. The issues with the child ensure that we will have contact with the OW either directly or indirectly for a very long time. The process of even getting visitation rights will be long and arduous. My husband's name is on the birth certificate but before we could bring the child here for visitation he must first obtain US citizenship. It looks like just getting the DNA test is going to take a couple of months. Even if the OW consented to give the child up (which she is not planning to do at the moment) it would be a long legal process to actually get the child here. I guess I figured that during the time we are waiting, we are working on our marriage and if things are not working out with us my H is still a good dad and would be capable of taking care of his child here. If we are together I would adopt--if we are not together he is capable of single parenting. OC is living in a third world country being raised by a single mom who until my husband ended the A did not even have to work because he was supporting her. Lest you think we are wealthy, we are not. I have gone without many things while my H ran our business into the ground with all his business related "trips". OW says it isn't fair that my kids have everything while OC doesn't. Honestly what H sends every month is more then a lot of people make in salary in that country so the OC is not in need materially--he just needs his dad. My husband told her it is within her power to change that--he is willing to bring the child here so that he can provide everthing his other kids have. I feel very sorry for the OC. What a mess. Also my H is not the kind of man that could forget about his son other then when he sends the support money every month. He feels horrible about what he has done and there is no painless easy solution. The fact that this is international makes it even more complicated--not like we could work out every other weekend schedule.

[This message edited by sinhurts at 10:49 AM, April 7th (Monday)]


Me-40
WS-40
OW-23 yrs old
Married 16 years
Dday- Feb 24, 2008
Children- 20,15,13,10,7
5yr LTA
OC- 10 months (paternity yet to be established by DNA)
Working to rebuild our marriage

Posts: 5 | Registered: Apr 2008
25wimsey
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Default  Posted: 11:12 AM, April 7th (Monday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Sinhurts, sorry you find yourself here. We have a lot in common. My H had a 5 year LTA with a woman from Europe, he confessed when she became pregnant, he broke the infidelity off, and we have contact with the child as he too is a good dad. We have 3 adult children.

It's been very difficult--OW is somewhat crazy and has put a lot of obstacles in the way of having a regular visitation relationship since she is insane on the topic of her seeing me at all. OW and OC went back to Europe when OC was about 14 months old and he is now 27 months old. We have been visiting as we can, it's been about every 3 or 4 months. H calls every two weeks, from home and in my presence, to talk to OC, and unfortunately OW.

It takes lots of negotiations and tears and time to deal with all of this. One of the hardest things is that it's so important to work on your marriage, to rebuild some trust and a different way of relating to each other, and all the infidelity issues--and there's just not enough time in a day or week to do that plus deal with the OC stuff.

Hang in there--sounds like you just found out and are still reeling. Feel free to PM me anytime--I have lots of experience with dealing with a long distance OC!!

And read everything you can about healing from affairs, here in the healing library for starters. And peek in at the LTA thread--a great bunch of women, and a few men, who are dealing with infidelity of their partners which lasted over two years or so.!


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lmacdonald
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Content  Posted: 3:10 PM, April 7th (Monday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

This might be long. I guess more than anything I just wanna say thank you to the people who put this site online, and to everyone that posts. I came here in January after my wife confessed she’d had an EA/PA with one of our employees. I think I must have eventually read the entire library and so much of the forum posts while I tried to decide what I needed to do. It’s far from “all good” for us right now, but after a couple of weeks of just being miserable from processing what was happening, I realized I wanted us to work on reconciling (she'd apologized and stayed away from OM almost immediately but I just didn’t know if I could really accept the apology) and it felt like this huge weight being lifted. She agreed to NC with OM after a couple of sessions with the therapist who’s seeing us and I realize reading all the posts of people who decided to R and the ones by people who decided to divorce helped me make up my own mind. The support and advice I got from the forums, even on posts that weren’t directly for me was great because the therapist can have the best ideas on earth, but he’s not going through it so he doesn’t know how it really feels just how it should feel according to most people's experiences.

The biggest problem for me was the fact that she was pregnant by OM and (I had a vasectomy 5yrs ago) and we’d decided we wouldn’t have children years before. I don’t really like kids. I mean I have nieces and nephews and I like hanging out with them sometimes, but never wanted any of my own. It was like a double betrayal that I felt so lucky Tess felt the same way and then she was pregnant by this a-hole who was supposed to be my friend on top of it all. Anyway, in dealing with that and talking about it with my wife was where this forum was most helpful, especially this section where people were dealing with the same things I was dealing. I felt horrible because the whole sense of trust is gone in a flash on top of it I was feeling like crap for just not wanting to raise a kid at my age (let alone someone else's) and DEFINITELY not being okay with any arrangement where OM got to stay in our lives.

I'd kept putting off making a decision for not knowing how to say things until we actually talked one night after dinner for like ten hours straight. Just to put my feelings out there like everyone here suggested was the best thing because once I told her I couldn't deal with the kid, we started making progress and she felt free to tell me she couldn't really deal with it either. It's like we were so rusty about marriage... I never thought that was possible. We've been married for sixteen years so it was like if anything we should have had extra experience put away for rainy days.

Rambled long enough now and not even sure I made my point except to say thanks SI forums.

Lmacdonald, now in the painful, slow process of reconciling.


Posts: 5 | Registered: Jan 2008 | From: Florida
BMC0415
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Default  Posted: 6:33 PM, April 7th (Monday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

((Lmacdonald)),

I have been wondering about you. We only had the 1 post from you and I wasn't sure how things were going for you.

I am so happy that you are trying to R. If this is what you truly want it is possible. Your W has made some good first steps by going NC with OM and expressing her feelings, very important.

I am glad that you feel that you have gotten some valuable advice and experience from SI and I wish you and your W good luck in the future.

BMC0415

[This message edited by BMC0415 at 6:34 PM, April 7th (Monday)]


Me: 40+ Him: 40+
Married: 20+ years
D-Day: 3/7/07
Children: 24dd,23ds,21dd
10 yr. LTA 3OC w/OW 10,10,14 8/14/12-gave custody of twins to ex 8/16/12-DIVORCED!

Posts: 2910 | Registered: Mar 2007 | From: Maryland
SadMommie
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Default  Posted: 7:13 AM, April 8th (Tuesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Well, My H made a couple of promises to me to try to get me back - the first one was that he would only have contact with the OW's mother concerning the OC (the grandmother is taking care of him while she is experiencing depression - whatever)and that he would not keep the OC overnight. He broke both promises within two days. He spoke to the OW on Saturday night when she broke her ankle while riding one of her beloved horses - why do you love your horse more than your kid???? And then he told the grandmother that he may be able to keep the OC for a weekend while they went to the races!!!! Now they are asking my H to pick-up the OC each morning and take him to the sitter b/c she can't drive and the grandmother needs to leave for work at 7:30 but she can't get up 30 minutes earlier to take him to the sitter herself. My H has him to the sitter by 7:15!!! This grandmother is a school teacher!!! Why he is agreeing to help them when he wouldn't help me - when I had a sick baby that couldn't keep anything down and he went out of town with the OW. I was left to take care of two kids by myself while he was running around!!!! Why does he feel the need to help. Can anyone explain??? Am I being unreasonable that it hurts me too much for him to do this???? Why do I put myself through this????


Me - 36
H - 35
Kids - D-6years, S-3year
OC - 2 year old
OW - POS crazy 25 year old
D-Day - April 10, 2007

"I am where I am because of the bridges that I crossed." - Oprah Winfrey

"Excuse me, what level of Hell is this?" - Bu


Posts: 91 | Registered: Jan 2008 | From: Virginia
BMC0415
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Default  Posted: 7:27 AM, April 8th (Tuesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

((Sadmommie))

I going to tell you what my H told me and I think it may be the same in your case.

He told me that I was a stronger woman and he knew he would not have to worry about me and our kids because he knew that I would handle everything.

Whereas the OW was a mess, didnt take care of the OC and he had to be there. I think the same thing may be going on with your H. This OW seems weak, dependant, maybe even neglectful of the child.

Does it make it right? HELL NO!! Please remind me, did he get DNA test done? Whether he has or not, again he is putting your feelings 2nd. I went thru this all the way up until we got the DNA tests, my H kept breaking promises to NC with OW. Kept using the excuse about her needing to talk to her kids. If she was such a bad parent that CPS took her kids, why would you keep contact up for her? I think he felt obligated because she spent 10 yrs. of her life on him.

Until your H can keep his word and promises to you, you are not in R. Boundaries are still being crossed.

And no you are not being unreasonable, it is about respect and you are not getting any!

[This message edited by BMC0415 at 7:29 AM, April 8th (Tuesday)]


Me: 40+ Him: 40+
Married: 20+ years
D-Day: 3/7/07
Children: 24dd,23ds,21dd
10 yr. LTA 3OC w/OW 10,10,14 8/14/12-gave custody of twins to ex 8/16/12-DIVORCED!

Posts: 2910 | Registered: Mar 2007 | From: Maryland
redvixen
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Default  Posted: 1:13 PM, April 8th (Tuesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

SadMommie, BMC said it best, as always. I'm so sorry for what you're going through.

Imacdonald, I'm glad to hear from you, and I'm glad to hear that you both are working on your lines of communication. Good luck to both of you on your R journey.


Me, BS Him WS early 40's at the start, cheated before and after cancer diagnosis.
Two A's, two OW's, online looking for sex partners, two false R's.
Threw him out in January 2009.
Divorce final March 30th, 2010

XWH died Dec. 2010


Posts: 4104 | Registered: Jul 2007 | From: New Jersey
SadMommie
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Default  Posted: 12:42 PM, April 9th (Wednesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thank you for all your advice.

I am becoming so bitter!!! I haven't done anythig to deserve this - nor has anyone here!!!! Why does this crap keep happening. I am a good person who has worked hard to give my family a good life. I used to be nice, positive and face all my challenges head on, now I want to crawl into a hole and never come out. Why did he feel that I was worth so little to do this to me and claim that he took my feelings into consideration when picking the OC up from the grandmother/OW house to take to the sitter. (He says he chose a time that would not affect my kids or me). I wouldn't have asked him to do it for me and during our marriage, he would have told me that he was too busy. Why does he have the time for them???? I just feel that anytime affects us. This family is just going to keep asking for extra help. Why is that our responsiblity!!! Why should my kids have to give up time with their dad???? What did my kids do to deserve this???? None of us asked for this baggage. Why does he expect me to continue to deal with it????

MY H thinks that I am blowing a small issue (picking up OC to take to sitter while the OC's mother recovers from her broken bones)out of proportion. I just feel that this is just the tip of the iceberg. These people want the OC, why ask us to help out. No one helps me. I hire a sitter or make my schedule work. Uuuughhhhh.

What do I do????? MY h says that he wants this to work but I can't handle the OC and his annoying and needy family.

Also, my h wants to introduce my kids to the OC. How do you do that??? How do you explain to a 4 year old about the OC and where he came from????

I just want everything to go away!!!!!! Why won't it get better??????


Me - 36
H - 35
Kids - D-6years, S-3year
OC - 2 year old
OW - POS crazy 25 year old
D-Day - April 10, 2007

"I am where I am because of the bridges that I crossed." - Oprah Winfrey

"Excuse me, what level of Hell is this?" - Bu


Posts: 91 | Registered: Jan 2008 | From: Virginia
BMC0415
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Default  Posted: 12:55 PM, April 9th (Wednesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Again, I say you are not getting any respect. It is time to make a change to take care of you and your children.

Did he have DNA test to prove his paternity? He should not even be doing all of this without proof. I think you need to get tough, JIMO, I would consult an attorney to see what your rights are. Are you still living apart? Some people don't know what they have until there is a threat of losing it.

As far as introducing this OC, I don't think it is a good idea that your kids be exposed to this. And if he was a decent father, he would think about your kids welfare before trying to introduce this OC. He is saying that he is not trying to make things difficult for you are take away from you and your kids, but he is everyday.

This is your life, only you can decide what you can live with. I see nothing but heartache for you in the future if there is not a change here. One thing it took me a long time to learn, I can only control myself.

I am so sorry that you are going thru this constantly.


Me: 40+ Him: 40+
Married: 20+ years
D-Day: 3/7/07
Children: 24dd,23ds,21dd
10 yr. LTA 3OC w/OW 10,10,14 8/14/12-gave custody of twins to ex 8/16/12-DIVORCED!

Posts: 2910 | Registered: Mar 2007 | From: Maryland
SadMommie
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Default  Posted: 2:18 PM, April 9th (Wednesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

No, he has not had the paternity test done. He actually told me that he believes the OW when she says that she was faithful to him!!!! Funny isn't it. I have asked several times to have it done but he just doesn't see the point.

Everyday this week, I have told him that I cannot handle the OC and all that it entails. I have also told him that I want to move on, that I don't like my life right now, I want to be happy and peaceful again. He keeps saying to me that I am blowing everything out context and proportion - that we need one another to work this out. He keeps telling me that the OC will always be in my life whether we are together or apart. My response to that has been that I will only have to hear about it when my kids mention it to me - not as a daily slap in the face when the OW sends a text needing help. How do I make him understand that if he can't have it both ways. He can't keep the OC's family happy and his family happy at the same time. Someone is going to get hurt every time. If it is not me, it is one of the kids. I feel that if I am happy and content with life, my kids will be fine and well adjusted. If it wasn't for my kids, I would have lost my mind a long time ago. They really are the best. And they deserve teh best.

OH - We are still living apart. I refuse to sell or move from my wonderful townhouse. : )


Me - 36
H - 35
Kids - D-6years, S-3year
OC - 2 year old
OW - POS crazy 25 year old
D-Day - April 10, 2007

"I am where I am because of the bridges that I crossed." - Oprah Winfrey

"Excuse me, what level of Hell is this?" - Bu


Posts: 91 | Registered: Jan 2008 | From: Virginia
redvixen
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Default  Posted: 8:19 AM, April 15th (Tuesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

bump


Me, BS Him WS early 40's at the start, cheated before and after cancer diagnosis.
Two A's, two OW's, online looking for sex partners, two false R's.
Threw him out in January 2009.
Divorce final March 30th, 2010

XWH died Dec. 2010


Posts: 4104 | Registered: Jul 2007 | From: New Jersey
auntcis
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Default  Posted: 9:11 AM, April 15th (Tuesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((everyone)))

Just letting you all know you are in my thoughts, and I'm hopeing all is well .


Me;36FBS,Him;31FWH,married 14yrs
D14,S12,S8,OC13
OC was adopted 8/13/09
"Lucky I'm in love with my best friend."

Posts: 3519 | Registered: Aug 2007 | From: New York
dreamer1
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Default  Posted: 7:34 PM, April 16th (Wednesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Its been awhile , Sorry, but have still been reading posts here. They are very helpful for me. I recently found out the due date, as my friend set up a dummy web page, and she accepted her as a friend, she has informed her that she will take 2 months off after the birth of the twins, and they are due July 14th.

I have also found out that she had told my FWH that she was on birth control, and after she disclosed to him that she was pregnant, that she had been taking fertility pills, She is almost a stalker to us. I have gotten a restraining order against her, for me.

But it has come to my attention that my H was trying to end it with her, and she found out that I was unable to have children, she thought this would be here way of winning him back, or that after she got pregnant he would leave me for her.

Well she could not be more wrong, H does not want kids now in this stage of our lives, and she might have done me a favor, of making him realise how pathetic she really is, She is still hanging on to the notion that maybe after he sees the kids, he will fall so in love with them, that he will choose to stay with her. LOL

But I am getting scared about the whole contact situation. I still have not seen her face to face, how do you handel that? And I also think she will probably move back to Washington, where her family lives, because it will be to hard to raise 4 children on a nail tech's money. With 2 new twins in the mix (all boys).

She is still posting pictures of my H & Her on the web, now she is posting new pregnancy pictures there.

What a Tramp. How a women can justify to them selves, what they are doing is right, taking fertility pills to get pregnant by an older married man, sleeping in his wives bed with her husband, telling me what excites him, like I don't already know much more than she will ever know.

Sorry about the long post, just need to get it out. FWH and I had a great talk about all of this, and now I feel we are so much closer and stronger.

One good thing came out of all of this, we have become better friends and lovers. Which I don't think our marriage would have become this strong, close and better bonding without the A. But the OC could have not happened, and the A could have not as well, don't get me wrong, but it is a way for me to accept what happened, and not try to let the "what if's" take over my thoughts, so this is how I have learned to accept what the past, has done to my future.

Just not sure what will happen when the OC arrive. I really think she will realise how much my H did not want kids and all it intails. He works long hours, with 1 day a week for himself & I. And I will not let her have my special alone day with him, our children already know that is mom & dads day. Hardly any one ever calls or comes by on that day. And it will stay that way if I have anything to say about it.


S(he) Be(lie)ve(d)
Me-BS 48
Him-FWH 50
Friends 34 yrs-Married 26 yrs
D-Day 1/20/2007
LTA-To Many False R to count and D-days, Last D-day June 11,2010
4 stepchildren SS 28, SD 29, Twin SS 2yrs.
Twin OC, born 6/23/2008
Trying to see if R is pos

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