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Member # 16855 |  Posted: 12:21 AM, May 10th (Sunday), 2009 |     |
wiswounded and lalagirl,
welcome, although I wish I didn't have to welcome you to this forum...for people to have to go through the anguish of an A, but then to have to muddle through a double betrayal, is beyond words
But we are all here because we've been there.
And if any of us can help you in any way, just let us know.
My H had an A with my SIL/OW, and we all still live in a very close vacinity of each other, so I know the lasting effects of a double betrayal first hand.
(me) BW - (33)
WH - (37)
Married: 11 years
Children: DD - 11, DS - 8
D-Day: September 22, 2007
"I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me."
Posts: 2128 | Registered: Nov 2007 | integritymatters
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Member # 23681 | | Posted: 8:43 AM, May 10th (Sunday), 2009 | |
The OW in our situation was the wife in a couples friendship we had. They were new friends. We met through our kids. We had known of them before. Everyone really likes him and really doesn’t like her. She’s pretty much labelled as venomous and psycho.
It was a toxic, game of manipulation and control from the beginning. I am responsible for my own victimization because I chose to ignore my gut about her and fell into her games. After about 18mos. I woke up and realized, I really don’t care for her and why am I acting like her? I had no idea that I was being controlled. I “cooled” my interactions with her. This is when she and my H started to get closer. The A started about 4mos. later and yes, she was the gatekeeper and opened the gate. Her actual words to him were, “We have to have sex”.
The games she played during the affair with both me and my H were pretty twisted. It was like a little kid playing “I know something you don’t know” na, na, na, na, na. “Let’s put it to the man” and I was the man. I believe the whole thing was some twisted notion in her head that my mere existence diminished hers and I had to be destroyed.
I gained more than I lost. I gained priorities, re-found myself; I gained realization and appreciation for true friends and relatives, re-found how much I love my kids, and so much more. I lost nothing but a really sick person and tortured soul out of my life forever. Hey, That’s a gain too! My poor WH lost big time. His dignity, his integrity, his self-respect, his regard from others. But he is out of his fog and is starting to find gains too. I’m really glad I’m not him.
The FOW has no remorse. It just happened, it was no-body’s fault and I’m the psycho one for “not getting over it”. I am the reason she is being scorned by all and she’s not the problem, everybody else is. Her BH is falling into this too. Man, am I REALLY glad I’m not them!
I dropped my toast this morning and it landed butter side up! It's going to be a good day. :)
Posts: 1457 | Registered: Apr 2009 | From: Canada | wiswounded
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Member # 23928 | | Posted: 8:56 AM, May 10th (Sunday), 2009 | |
Thank you to all of you for your posts. I am spending Mother's day with a close friend because my kids live far away and are unable to visit. What I have learned from this site that is getting me through the weekend is that what I miss doesn't exist.
I miss the man I thought he was, the man that he could be. Not the man he really is or the man he became. I don't miss her at all since she is a complete phony. I regret my naivetee but not my trusting nature. "You may get hurt if you trust too much but you will live forever in pain if you trust too little." Trust but verify.
I am so happy to hear that many of you have gone on to have an even better life. Thank you again.
wounded
XBW - Me
XWH - Creep I used to be married to
Divorce 7-13-09 (State of WI fastest)
"You cannot stop the birds of sorrow from flying over your head, but you CAN stop them from building nests in your hair"
Posts: 822 | Registered: May 2009 | From: Wisconsin | wantingforever
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Member # 24132 | | Posted: 9:41 AM, May 26th (Tuesday), 2009 | |
Can anyone relate to me and my situation...My SO and I have been together for 13 years...around year 5-6 she strayed with a person she had known for years and was always attracted to, I stood by watched her go away on weekends for 3 months and it came to an end as I believed it would....Now 7 years later I just found out that she is again involved in something with another person who she used to teach and is now out of college, this person was supposed to be my friend as well, and they have always had some sort of crazy bond...the other person has been living with her boyfriend for 6 years but does not feel the passion she does for my SO, there is no doubt in my mind she is straight and could not handle what this type of relationship can bring, but she still sees my SO as this person she idolizes and does not even use her name (she calls her coach), I know my SO wants to believe in forever with me, and I know she did until she let this flirtation turn into something that got way bigger than it should have...The OW strokes my SO ego, and makes her feel good, she is almost 15 years younger. My SO agreed to go to counseling, she grew up in a very unstable environment and I believe she is afraid of losing me but also afraid that if she gives 100% that something may happen to me...I am not sure where we go from here but I do know we belong together, I feel that in the depth of my soul...we really do have a great relationship but she has NEVER been able to commit 100% to any relationship she has ever been in and she has always strayed....How do I get past this pain...and sickness I feel....she cannot leave this other person yet, she needs to figure out what it is although I am pretty sure it is mindless infatuation...I can't leave, I don't want to, but I am broken and can't seem to get myself together...Any advice
Posts: 5 | Registered: May 2009 | From: pennsylvania | pitofdespair
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Member # 24154 | | Posted: 7:18 PM, June 2nd (Tuesday), 2009 | |
So many forums that apply to me it's hard to decide which one to choose. Besides having had As with three OW my WH works with (not closely), I just found out that over 20 years ago he had sex with my sister. We had been married about 4 years at the time. I haven't read all the posts on this topic, but I'm not seeing sisters, mostly friends.
I have to say, the night this happened, we were all drunk. She was only 18 and was visiting us. We were in our late twenties. We were actually giving alcohol to my underage sister. I have felt horrible about this for years.
When I saw an IM between the two of them that referred to that night and what they had done, I almost died.
My husband is a SA, given. In the past 10 years he has been very addicted to porn, has had many, many online encounters that were beyond disgusting and vile, including a 9 year online A, and the three As that I know of.
I don't know what to do about my sister though. She seems to not know that I know what happened and she doesn't live in the same town, so I don't see her often. We do have a family wedding in July though. How much would it suck if I confronted her then? Do I need to take responsibility for allowing her to get drunk? I think I do.
What to do?
Me: BS
Him: Lying, cheating ho
Married 26 years
D-Day 1: 12-31-08
Still trickling?
Posts: 19 | Registered: May 2009 | LiveLuvLaph
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Member # 15536 | | Posted: 10:26 AM, June 3rd (Wednesday), 2009 | |
pitofdespair,
sorry you had to find us here at SI, but welcome
my ever changing story is in my profile
my sis and H deny an A. My sis would tell me early on that my H only made an advance at her. She would refuse to say how he hit on her though.
In the meantime, my h told me how he came onto her. Recently I had a discussion with my sister and her story doesn't match with my H's.
soooo, my take on it is that my H and sis did have a brief affair and that she broke it off. My H wouldn't quit bothering her, so she moved out of my parents' home at the time. (She was 29 years old then)
My sister is not my friend. She refused to tell me anything until recently. And then she had the balls to tell me she wouldn't have had sex with my h anyway because he isn't her type. 
Anywhoo, your sis nows what she did and after all these years, thinks nothing of it. She and your h have sided together and kept it from you for 20 years. She isn't your friend!
Who put the IM out there? Did your WH IM her first? How much contact have they had over the years? They may have hooked up more than once.
this has me wondering....did he IM her putting out feelers in hopes of hooking up with her at the wedding?
Did your sister scold him in the IM an tell him she's not interested, it was a horrible thing that she did, that he's M to you and that if he contacted her again she would *out* him, not to contact her ever again
Anything short of that, and she probably would still hook up with him. Her words in the IM, what she didn't say will tell as much as what she did say.
Unless she cut him to the quick, she left things open for a future connection. If that's the case, then it doesn't matter that she was a drunk 18 year old when it happened years ago.
Today, she's a 38 year old at least considering it if she didn't put him in his place. I hope she let him have it. But she needed to tell you.
your family probably knows all about your H's antics (sans sis as OW) and hasn't said anything to you. Don't be surprised if you find that's the case.
My family is very supportive of wayward behaviors. My own sis has a kid by a man who was married at the time she got pregnant.
My mom was gaga that my sister had finally gotten pregnant because my sister "had wanted a baby for so many years".
It's very painful when it's family. It splits you in half. You not only lose your spouse, but your family as well.
For me, I'm going to go with my gut feelings. When I get the $ together my H will be polygraphed. He says he'll take one. If he passes, then it's one time that my instinct would be wrong. I have a feeling though that it's not.
Take care of yourself and focus on you. Talk to you soon.
BW(me)now 44
DDay 9-11-02 DDay 2: 5-16-2012
"BS's spend way too many years fixing problems that only existed in the cheating mind of their WS."
Wincing_at_light
"Sometimes the breakups hurt far less than the relationship."
Aesir
Posts: 3303 | Registered: Jul 2007 | pitofdespair
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Member # 24154 | | Posted: 7:13 PM, June 3rd (Wednesday), 2009 | |
Liv, thanks so much. Can't believe how much this board helps me feel.
I don't remember who started the IM, but I still know how to get to it. My H was looking for whatever he could online, and it seemed as if he was doing some major fishing with her. More than once. How stupid am I?
He has seen her many times over the years. She's married with three kids! At one point, she got angry with me and told me I needed to tell my H to leave her alone. I thought he was just flirting with her and she was tired of it! But believe me, I told him to lay off the inappropriate behavior. I had no idea it went this far! DUH!
When they IMd she actually said she wouldn't have done it if she hadn't been drunk, but then she said "okay, yes I would have." Ugh. And yes, they were both drinking when they were IMing. That's a pattern with my WH. Don't get me started.
She also said she wondered what would happen if anyone ever found out, asked him if he had ever been with anyone else. He joked that he had been with my other sister! Can't get over wondering if that one is true, though he vehemently denies it.
And for the clincher, she confided in him that she had been having an A with someone she worked with for two years! Arghhhh! I love her children and her husband!!
This sucks so much!
Me: BS
Him: Lying, cheating ho
Married 26 years
D-Day 1: 12-31-08
Still trickling?
Posts: 19 | Registered: May 2009 | LiveLuvLaph
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Member # 15536 | | Posted: 1:16 PM, June 4th (Thursday), 2009 | |
I hear what you're saying pit
what are you going to do?
get the email and make a copies of it
that way you have it handy if you decide to expose
if your h told her he was with your other sister, believe it
he has consistently lied to you and kept secrets with her
her BS deserves to know what she's like
Are you considering staying with your H?
You have so much you're up against
BW(me)now 44
DDay 9-11-02 DDay 2: 5-16-2012
"BS's spend way too many years fixing problems that only existed in the cheating mind of their WS."
Wincing_at_light
"Sometimes the breakups hurt far less than the relationship."
Aesir
Posts: 3303 | Registered: Jul 2007 | pitofdespair
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Member # 24154 | | Posted: 2:06 PM, June 4th (Thursday), 2009 | |
Thanks, Live. It will be a long time before I even think I might have the whole truth. Just don't know if I will stay with my H. Still working on what I will do.
Also, still trying to figure out how I'm going to tell her BS that she was and maybe still is cheating on him. I think he needs to know, but I am fearful of breaking up their family and my BIL will be so devastated. He has put up with a hella lot from her over the years...believe me!
I did what you suggested and copied the whole IM file, emailed it to my own private email, so I'll have it if I need it.
I was reading back to some other posts and people were talking about how quiet it is on this thread. Maybe that's because of people like me:
Spouse of SA: check
LTA: at least one
WS Works with OW: uh huh
Online S: massive quantities
ONS: it's true
Passive agressive: I have to say yes
Double Betrayal:MY SISTER
Dealing with Depression: As best I can
NPD: I'm thinking that's true too
Fuck my life
Me: BS
Him: Lying, cheating ho
Married 26 years
D-Day 1: 12-31-08
Still trickling?
Posts: 19 | Registered: May 2009 | KayVee
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Member # 24373 | | Posted: 8:46 AM, June 16th (Tuesday), 2009 | |
Sadly, this group is for me too. WH had an EA with a good "friend" of mine. Both claim no PA and no physical contact of any kind. The EA lasted 2 months. Here is my story:
We have friends who have 2 kids similar ages to our 2 kids. We get together with them every so often as families. We were planning to vacation together for a week this summer. In January we are with this family at my house and I notice WH and the OW being a little too flirty. I distinctly remember OW looking at my WH in a way that made me uncomfortable. But I brushed it off. She contacts my WH at work for some "business" advice and it takes off from there. They start emailing, talking on the phone, facebook chatting, exchanging music etc. in secret. I know something is going on with my H and can't put my finger on it. He is hostile toward me and the kids, working out a ton, always on his iPhone or the computer. We are not getting along at all. All the while my "friend" the OW is talking to me and telling me to tell my H I am "done" with him to get him to change his behavior. She's asking questions about my marriage and sex life (which was fine for the most part). I had no idea she was using this info to get closer to my WH.
We got together with them in late Feb at their house and I overhead a bit of a conversation between the 2 of them that felt weird, but I brushed it off again. Then in March I spent 8 hours alone with OW driving to rent a vacation home for our 2 families. Then we all hung out together that night. Again, I felt a weird vibe but brushed it off. End of March she invites us over and this time there is no denying something is up. So I start snooping and find a FB chat H left open on is iPhone -- thinking of you, sweetheart, looking forward to morning email. It was enough for me to bring it to OW's BH (who was actually my friend long before he married her). Together we gather evidence, he more than I since my WH was having his contact with OW at work while she is a SAHM doing everything on home computer and phone.
We both confront. My WH is somewhat open and seems remorseful, but sets up a private email account to contact her a week later. He says for "closure." We do MC and he seems very open. I'm still skeptical. I finally get him talking and he starts answering my questions. It seem that this was an EA that had not progressed to a PA yet. It was a lot of finding each other attractive, if only they weren't married, etc. I'm 99% sure there was no physical contact since it's highly unlikely they ever got together besides our get togethers. WH is very ashamed, doing everything right, etc. My gut is telling me I have the truth, but I still have seeds of doubt.
I really hate her and I am pissed that I have to deal with my feelings about my "friend" as well as my WH. Infidelity sucks. Double betrayal double sucks.
Posts: 149 | Registered: Jun 2009 | wiswounded
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Member # 23928 | | Posted: 9:09 AM, June 16th (Tuesday), 2009 | |
Wow, KayVee
Your story is similar to mine but it did graduate to a PA and STBXH moved out. Her BH knew about it for months before I did but didn't tell me because he was trying to reconcile with OW and thought if he told me, she would leave. She wasn't playing along apparently. After I found out through other means, I talked to her BH and learned more information.
I can't believe the number of times we talked about our relationships to our spouses, even our sex lives. I thought she just needed me to be a friend but she was fishing for information. She and her STBXH were motorcycling buddies of ours. We had them over for dinners and movies. Strangely, my WH always insisted I invite her to stay at my house and go shopping or to a movie or something to "cheer her up". Stupidly, I did. WH must have thought it was pretty funny watching us together and interracting with both of us at the same time. She was probably gleeful that they were pulling one over on me.
I hate her worse than I hate anyone. She doesn't exist to me right now. If STBXWH mentions her (and lately he's been talking like she isn't in his life anymore) I completely ignore it like it was never said. Any mention of her in an email is never addressed.
I have made sure my feelings about her are clear to all our friends and aquaintences and she is now friendless. Oh...she recently moved up here to her cabin to be with STBXH but he's sinced moved somewhere else. Heard a few "bunny boiler" type rumors about her lately.
I'm still getting divorced. They may get back together. If so, NC with either of them ever. Support payments are being sent EFT to my bank and I am moving away.
XBW - Me
XWH - Creep I used to be married to
Divorce 7-13-09 (State of WI fastest)
"You cannot stop the birds of sorrow from flying over your head, but you CAN stop them from building nests in your hair"
Posts: 822 | Registered: May 2009 | From: Wisconsin | KayVee
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Member # 24373 | | Posted: 11:40 AM, June 16th (Tuesday), 2009 | |
wiswounded -- thanks for your reply.
I actually talked to OW a few times since d-day. We exchanged a few emails started by her lame apology email. I called her on the phone at the encouragement of her BH. I really called b/c I wanted info about my WH, but she thought it was to hear her side and all she did was cry and say she was sorry and tell me half-assed excuses. I could see through every one of her lies b/c I was her friend and knew her. Her BS is in denial about what she is like. He told me that she really was my friend and all I could do was laugh because that is so far from the truth. She stopped being my friend when she started coveting my husband. And prior to that I believe she was coveting my life. And I just hate her. And I hate that I ever thought she was my friend and ever shared anything with her.
Wow. I really am still so bitter LOL. Her and her BS and so very concerned with who I have told. I've had several phone calls from him asking who of our mutual friends know. This actually makes me feel so powerful over her b/c I know and she knows that I can make her life quite uncomfortable at any minute. They are so much about appearances.
Being one here is as good as, if not better than, MC. I feel so much better being able to freely share and not be judged and to have people really understand where I am coming from!
Posts: 149 | Registered: Jun 2009 | brokenhearted512
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Member # 21456 | | Posted: 5:49 PM, June 17th (Wednesday), 2009 | |
KayVee, I too can relate to your story. My WH had an A with my cousin's wife. I have so much hatred towards that women. I know my H is to blame also, and he owns up to his part in all of this. But she has not owned up to hers, and I think that is what gets me sending. After about 3 months she did send me an apology email. It was two sentences. And within those two sentences she had to state how she was hurt. WHAT?!?!? I don't think so.
You don't even know what hurt is then. And I don't know why, but I think she could have ended this, she kept on talking my H into going further, in getting the phone, etc... So I think that is where my anger is at too. Because in way I think she was the gate keeper in all of this. If you need someone to talk to I'm here.
me BS 51
H WH 52
ow my COUSINS WIFE!!!
D Day 8/19/08
R since D Day, going to IC and MC
Posts: 141 | Registered: Oct 2008 | From: Chicago | jolene
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Member # 17993 | | Posted: 2:28 AM, June 22nd (Monday), 2009 | |
KayVee, I responded in the thread you made recently.
I hate the OW too. I can't seem to stop being paranoid that she's going to show back up (thank God she moved far away during the A). She still has family in the area and last news (thru coworkers of my H) she and her BH should be coming to town soon... probably to talk to the real estate agent who's renting their apartment (hey, maybe they're going to SELL IT!).
I managed to get myself into her email loop w/o her knowing it, and I can't stop keeping tabs on her-- where she's going (especially to know when she'll be back here and if she takes any "business" trips that are coordinated with my FWH's).
The obsession is unhealthy but it's like I'm doing it to protect my M. I know that is weird thinking.
I hate her soooooo much. she did everything your OW did-- played MC on us, would call me up to see what I knew about the A (I was stupidly suspicious for a long time but I never thought they'd go PA, really, how naïve of me  !), she was just treacherous to a degree that I couldn't possible trust her being anywhere near FWH again.
H is pissed at me today because he wanted us to go somewhere with a colleague who doesn't know about the A (but who is OW's BH's boss). In the past, this guy has asked FWH what was up with OW, if FWH had any news, etc. I asked FWH, "What do I say to him if he asks me this? Should I tell him the truth?" The idea that I would out the A even though it's over really pissed him off.
He's still protecting her.
Will it ever end?  [This message edited by jolene at 2:30 AM, June 22nd (Monday)]
Separated, divorcing.
Posts: 2189 | Registered: Jan 2008 | From: btn rock and hard place | hurt789
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Member # 20937 | | Posted: 4:12 PM, June 22nd (Monday), 2009 | |
We exchanged a few emails started by her lame apology email.
OW sent me a card and letter. I poured lighter fluid on it and set it on fire. I have no ideal what it said. I am sure it was telling me that my WH didnt love me and loved her and he only used me all these years...blah blah blah.
I think about her daily. Mostly ways to hurt her. I think about just showing up at her house. I still have a key, I could let myself right in. I wonder is she would stroke out if she seen me just walk right in!! I wrote her a letter making sure she knows I havent forgotten about her. I havnt mailed it yet. I dont want to be that kind of person, but thats what I have become. That is what she has made me.
BS 40
WS 43
MARRIED 20
TOGATHER 22
1 PERFECT DAUGHTER
DDAY7/13/08
LTA - ALWAYS
Posts: 240 | Registered: Sep 2008 | brokenhearted512
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Member # 21456 | | Posted: 6:45 PM, June 22nd (Monday), 2009 | |
Boy do I relate to everyone here. I had something happen to me last night, and it has been bothering me since. I didn't know where to post this. But I figured everyone here really knows what I'm going through. Double Betrayal stinks!
Well, here goes, last night I got an email from my cousin's wife, this cousin is brothers with OW H. Does that make sense? I hope so. Well any ways, she is asking me how I am doing, she knows all about everything, and really hasn't offered much support. She is going on about what they have been up to during the summer, and she tells me that OW and her girls just spent 3 days with her while their H's were off fishing. Why did she have to tell me that?
Why did she have to type her name. I don't want to see that name, I don't want to hear that name......why did she do that to me??? I just want to scream.
I haven't responded, because I don't know what to say. I want to say, please don't mention her to me anymore, but would that be too weird?
I know that everyone would just love if everything would go back to the way it was before June of 2008, well I'm sorry, it just won't. So they just keep throwing things out like this. That is why I have avoided everything involving that side of the family.
What would you do?
Thank you in advance for your help!
me BS 51
H WH 52
ow my COUSINS WIFE!!!
D Day 8/19/08
R since D Day, going to IC and MC
Posts: 141 | Registered: Oct 2008 | From: Chicago | Dreamboat
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Member # 10506 | | Posted: 2:05 AM, June 24th (Wednesday), 2009 | |
I haven't responded, because I don't know what to say. I want to say, please don't mention her to me anymore, but would that be too weird?
Does this person know about the A? If so, respond and simply say that hearing about OW still hurts you. No further explanations needed. Of course you want to be diplomatic if you wish to retain this person as a friend. If so, then perhaps respond to any comments made before the mention of OW, tell her about your family, and then add a closing paragraph simply stating that you have NC with OW because of the pain and destruction she has caused. Then maybe a statement like "I have no desire to hear about that woman or her family." If possible refer to OW as "that woman", if you can get the message across without explicitly using her name.
((hugs))
And it's hard to dance with a devil on your back
So shake him off
-- Shake It Out, Florence And The Machine
Posts: 16407 | Registered: Apr 2006 | From: A better place :) | brokenhearted512
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Member # 21456 | | Posted: 10:02 AM, June 24th (Wednesday), 2009 | |
She does know about the A.
When I found out about the A and that my cousin's wife was the OW, I emailed my cousins and their wifes that day. I was hurt and distraught, I wanted everyone and thier uncles to know what she did. (And my H too) So I sent out a broadcast email to them. I didn't want any more secrets I wanted them exposed.
What is weird that transpired from that email is that my cousin (OW's H) he is mad at me for sending out that email. He hasn't talked to me since that day. That hurts, I would really like his perspective on all of this.
The wife that did email this has kept in contact with me this year, she has sent a couple of emails since. But always very general nothing too personal. I have not really seen any of them since this all broke out. Just one cousin at Christmas time he stopped over. But that is it. That is what hurts the most. I feel like I have some sort of disease and they don't want anything to do with me. The problem is I didn't do anything. It was OW and H.
OW loves to play the victim so she has cried and told them her sob story. And I really believe they kind of feel sorry for her?!?!? She even told one of my cousins that I harrass her........please. If you want to see harrassment I can bring that on. I sent her 3 emails since this all started. I wouldn't call that harrassment.
Thank you so much for the suggestion, I think I will do that. I will write what you said, and she what happens. It will probably keep me more shunned. OH, well, I don't have anything to loose!
me BS 51
H WH 52
ow my COUSINS WIFE!!!
D Day 8/19/08
R since D Day, going to IC and MC
Posts: 141 | Registered: Oct 2008 | From: Chicago | funny story
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Member # 16855 | | Posted: 1:25 PM, June 24th (Wednesday), 2009 | |
broken,
Yes, I would agree with e-mailing her back and just stating the obvious...
...that this betrayal has severly affected you, that you feel a little like an outcast in the family now because nobody has offered you support, and that in the future, you would appreciate not being involved in conversations including the OW.
I think you have to be real clear and up front about the "elephant in the room" with your family (or H's family). If not, and if you never let them know what bothers you, they will continue on as if nothing has happened (which is a pretty common coping mechanism for extended families dealing with double betrayals, as I've come to learn). 
(me) BW - (33)
WH - (37)
Married: 11 years
Children: DD - 11, DS - 8
D-Day: September 22, 2007
"I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me."
Posts: 2128 | Registered: Nov 2007 | humboldtmom
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Member # 21569 | | Posted: 3:02 AM, July 3rd (Friday), 2009 | |
pit,
I haven't been on here in awhile, but I have the same situation. H had an A with my sister. Sucks!
Me BS - 32
FWH - 34 - 1.5yr PA (with my sister, RIP)
Together 13y Married 10y
3 children: 10 & 9 & 1 1/2
D-Day 9/08
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