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hearbroken
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Default  Posted: 8:54 PM, December 9th (Sunday), 2007View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

No Mor,

OMG!!! I

was walking with my h and I said " Did you ever see someone who was a Whore able person?" The co-worker with her turned to look at me. Later my h and I walked out behind her when she was alone and I said Whore able, just Whore able. The looser freek kept walking.

I know you'd been waiting for this moment. I am rolling and tearing up from laughing so hard about this. You *did* it. Now, here comes a little 2 by 4.... You got to see her, make a biting comment (or two)... if I were you I'd let it rest after this. If she's as pyscho as you say, she might start documenting things & turn it around to say you are harassing her. But good for you for holding your head up with confidence AND making her as trivial and insignificant as she is now!

Well done, my friend! (holding up a toast & cheer)

HB


Dday1 8/05 (LTA)
Dday2 4/09 (online EA 2 weeks then confessed)
Dday 3 8/10 ("full disclosure" of more infidelity prior to 2009)

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Feeling so alone
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Default  Posted: 11:11 PM, December 9th (Sunday), 2007View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I know I've got a busy day ahead of me tomorrow so I think I'll knock this out tonight.
You all remember Rudolph don't you. Well he's had a little change from his old former self.

Beth the snaggletooth whore
Had a very saggy ass
And if you ever saw it
You would say Ho what is that

All of the other whores
Used to laugh and call her names
They never let poor snaggletooth
Join in any of their orgy games

Then one dumb ass husband of mine
Lost all leave of his senses
Snaggletooth with your saggy ass
Won't you bj mine tonight

Then when the beautiful wife found out
And she shouted out with her lawyer
If you ever do that shit again
You'll go down in HISTORY

Ya'll please excuse me. I just can't seem to help myself.

And snaggletooth bitch, I know you're not lurking b/c you don't have sense enough to use a computer. But if you were and you ever had any doubt that I was talking about you. Notice the first word in my song. Yea,it's you bitch!!!!!!

And aren't ow just Whore able I just loved that one

FSA


Together we're working through an LTA

If a man says something in the woods and there's not a woman there to hear it, is he still wrong?


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runoverbytruck
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Default  Posted: 9:03 AM, December 10th (Monday), 2007View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

YAY NO MOR!!! OMGosh, I know how you've been waiting for this! YESSSSSSSSSSS! Sweet success! Wonder how she explained to the co-worker what that woman meant? Did you know the co-worker?

HearTbroken, I feel for you. I hate that someone "has something" over you. Why does this woman think you backstabbed her? Is there any talking to her to reassure her that you didn't do anything of the sort?

Lost, where are you?

FSA, keep 'em coming!

So...had a bit of a meltdown this weekend. Some of you LTA old-timers may remember waaaay back when my daughter broke up with her little boyfriend. No biggie, right? They're just kids "going together". They don't even kiss. WRONG! I couldn't handle it. I fell totally apart. Cried for days for the poor rejected boy. My daughter thought I had lost my mind, and seriously--I would too! Well, new days, new boyfriend who adores her. They've been going together for almost 4 MONTHS! (That's big at her age.) Wullllll, she broke up with him on Friday. Me? Back to square one. My heart hurts so bad for this kid. WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME??? I've been crying my eyes out for him! Luckily, I've managed to keep it on the sly since my daughter has been so busy away from home this weekend. But she called me when we were at our friend's house for dinner on Saturday telling me the boy had called her and his mom was sitting with him helping him with things to say. I fell apart at the friend's house! CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS??? (These friends know my sitch, thank goodness--I guess.) My heart aches so badly. All I can think of is that he doesn't feel wanted. That he feels like he isn't good enough. He feels like he doesn't matter to her. And he hurts inside. I'm projecting all of my feelings of my H's affair onto their situation. My chest literally aches--again. My H doesn't know what to do with me. I don't know what to do with me. I'm sure there will be many more boyfriends. Am I going to fall apart for every single one? And my God! I'm going to totally disintegrate when it's my daughter with the broken heart!!!

Why does this happen?


LTA BS

If you think the grass is greener on the other side, it's because it's fertilized with bullshit.

The best protection a woman can have is courage.~Elizabeth Cady Stanton


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Default  Posted: 9:24 AM, December 10th (Monday), 2007View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thanks HB and Run. It is now over. When I see her again, I will have nothing to say. But I really am glad that I saw her. She isn't butt ugly, but close. It's a pity as she used to be cute. So sad, so sad!!!!

And I don't know the co-worker who was walking with her but my h knows her. I am sure that the fmow pretended to have no idea why I made such a comment.

Run, I have always felt sorry for those bf's and gf's that my kids dropped. It is no wonder that you triggered. Having a major meltdown is just part of this process.

Good news!!!! My h and I booked a 12 day 4 country cruise for the summer. This is in celebration of our 35th anniversary. Who would have thought!!!!

As an old timer in age ( I am sure that at 61 I am the oldest lta fbs on this thread), and an old timer in surviving the lta (d day 6/04), I want to say that with work and time it gets better.

Love and Hugs to ALL


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Default  Posted: 10:01 AM, December 10th (Monday), 2007View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Yeah no mor!!!! A victory for all BS!!! I hope her heart was pounding right out of her chest. And isn't it great to SEE the internal detrioration hitting the external!!! Ha! I hope she looks like a human prune in a couple of years. And congrats on scheduling that cruise. What a wonderful thing to look forward to. I had one of those, 'who would have thunk' moments last week when H and I began excavating all of our collectibles out of boxes to be put around the house now that we're in the final, finishing touches in the 4 year home construction project. There were all sorts of things we collected in our travels and trips all over the place. So many memories and so many good times. When we stood back to look at our work for that afternoon and I saw all these things around us I burst out in tears. H knew immediately what had moved me to this and he welled up too. It was a very powerful moment and as I cried I said, "Who would have thought we'd get to this place?". It was very sweet and affirming for both of us. I hope when you're standing on the deck of that ship no mor you have one of those moments.

(((((Run))))) So sorry to hear this brought it all back for you. The trauma of it all has a way of kicking you butt when and how it wants. It sucks! But I think it's really important to look at how far you've come and now you can look at some of these isolated incidents and do some work around them. I know you'll get past this Run. You've made it through so much already.

FSA - You're killing me with those ditties!!!

[This message edited by OneToughCowgirl at 10:04 AM, December 10th (Monday)]


M 20 years / together 25 yrs
6 yr LTA
Me 47
FWH 48
D-Day Jan. 2006
We're good and getting better every day!

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OneToughCowgirl
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Default  Posted: 10:08 AM, December 10th (Monday), 2007View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Over time though, as females we are the ones to show the ulterior motive of the female. Um, simple things like, "She probably wanted more than sex with you." Hard for those male egos to fathom that one. To push the point further, "Um, she probably wanted a permanent relationship with you." Ooooh, that's a big one for them to comprehend. Then, you nail them with the big one "She wanted to be the step mother to OUR children." Well, as obvious as it is to us. WE can sum up OW's motives in a few sentences, they really don't see it that way. It's just good times that they took advantage of. Any feelings were secondary and more of nuisance than a motivation.
Great point Zanny. I think there is a whole element to this that we as BS don't consider and that's the compartmentalization that many of the WS's have to do to not see the feelings the OP has developed for them and to not see what you're saying above Zanny. I think they know it, they just want what they want and so compartmentalize the betrayal to BS and also compartmentalize that the sex means so much more to the OP than just sex. My H is just starting to talk about this a little. I think it's a hard pill to swallow that he knew damn well the SOW was head over heels and just waiting for me to die or something, while he was telling himself it was just sex/friendship. So there is remorse on that end too after Dday I believe when they realize how they used the OP and the reality of that comes crashing down on them too.


M 20 years / together 25 yrs
6 yr LTA
Me 47
FWH 48
D-Day Jan. 2006
We're good and getting better every day!

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Default  Posted: 10:08 AM, December 10th (Monday), 2007View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

zanny - I gain so much from your insight. Sometimes we all need that 3rd party to see the positive in what we thought was negative. I do believe he is taking responsibility for his actions (maybe too much). He still believes he "ruined her life" and hopefully he will eventually see that they both need to take responsibility for their lives.

FSA - Put a big smile on this Monday morning face.

Runover - When my daughter broke up with her BF this summer I felt bad for him, but also saw the pain my D felt for hurting him. There is nothing wrong about feeling pain for our kids and meltdowns are a part of this pain.

no more - So happy for you, you give us all hope that a future is possible.


M-25 years
2 kids

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Default  Posted: 10:18 AM, December 10th (Monday), 2007View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

OTC - We were posting at the same time. Just read yours and I believe that is exactly where WH is. I think he feels tremedous guilt that he used the OW for sex/friendship. While I think he believes he LOVED her, he also knows he NEEDED her and she was ready, willing, and able.


M-25 years
2 kids

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Default  Posted: 10:31 AM, December 10th (Monday), 2007View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

What incredible restraint you showed No Mor!
You had your moment..yay!

Hi robt!
Gosh, I dont know what to say about your sitch.So will just send some hugs ok?
(((((((robt)))))))

FSA, you are so bad!

Had another IC session today.She was worried about me being so down last week, so scheduled one today too.

Today she told me that she was going to tell me something I wouldnt like, but its true.She said,"Your H abused you, and still does in different ways." When I agreed, she said,"No LISTEN TO ME.You are an abused woman." And I just started tearing.

And she went on explaining how I was abused by H, and the tears just kept falling.I wanted to run away, shouting, "No I am not like those women! I. AM. NOT. !!"

So I am an abused woman, who is still being abused. I have settled for crumbs, and treated each crumb like they were prized possessions. And I am still doing that.

My head is saying, "Its true." but my heart is crying, "No.No. No."

What the hell am I doing with H? Do I hate myself so much?

It was a good weekend. H was so helpful and considerate and giving. I was so grateful.I kept thanking him, even this morning, sent him an sms thanking him. My heart is thinking that this is who he is, this is how it will be, he is showing me how much he loves me and how sorry he is, but my head is shaking her head and is saying, "You know it will only last as long as he wants it to.Which can be tonight, 2 days from now, or the weekend."Or as long as I 'behave'.

Damn.

Anybody else's IC called them an abused woman?


Everyday is a winding road
I get a little bit closer
Everyday is a faded sign
I get a little bit closer to feeling fine

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Default  Posted: 10:41 AM, December 10th (Monday), 2007View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Over time though, as females we are the ones to show the ulterior motive of the female. Um, simple things like, "She probably wanted more than sex with you." Hard for those male egos to fathom that one. To push the point further, "Um, she probably wanted a permanent relationship with you." Ooooh, that's a big one for them to comprehend. Then, you nail them with the big one "She wanted to be the step mother to OUR children." Well, as obvious as it is to us. WE can sum up OW's motives in a few sentences, they really don't see it that way. It's just good times that they took advantage of. Any feelings were secondary and more of nuisance than a motivation.

Well, I'm going to respond to this cuz if I don't, I won't feel comfortable posting here with my woes! It just isn't the same for every situation. My H was perfectly aware of OW's feelings, and had feelings of his own regarding her, and he has told me that they discussed all of this many times. He knew (as did she--pursuing it despite the breakups and discussions about him not leaving his M)very well what she wanted--and they "discussed" it til they had big fights about it--a pattern they followed. (I can only imagine the "after-the-fight meetings--emotional and intense I'm sure).

I'm sure I don't know all of it, but this was part of their scenario--the one thing that was spot on was the compartmentalization of it all for H--and he claims he wasn't really "happy" during the LTA--don't really get that, he certainly enjoyed all the perks.

But anyway, just wanted to say I envy those whose H's really didn't have a real R with the OW's--and I only wish that were the case with here. But whatever you call it, it still sucks for us all--no matter how they thought, they still DID it, for months and years.

I'm pretty close to you in age NoMor--be 60 next birthday. Different when you're this "old" and still worrying about all this shit, isn't it? D-day here was 7/05--but we're still working so slowly on everything cuz as you all know, OC sets things back considerable, like a yo-yo.

Someone asked about details about my son's wedding in the spring--of course there are none yet. He's VERY loose and relaxed, and he and his SO are very busy, and they don't communicate a lot about details, so I'm guessing it will be pretty informal, lots of fun, and planned at the latest minute possible. As mother of the groom, and with a wedding 5 hours away from us, I don't need to do much hands-on stuff myself.

Hugs to all.


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Default  Posted: 12:59 PM, December 10th (Monday), 2007View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Wimsey, you hit the nail on the head for me with this statement.

But anyway, just wanted to say I envy those whose H's really didn't have a real R with the OW's--and I only wish that were the case with here. But whatever you call it, it still sucks for us all--no matter how they thought, they still DID it, for months and years.

LH, yes I've been told that I have been abused and living off the crumbs. What makes the difference is he hasn't changed back, not in 5 years. My problem as crazy as it sounds, I wish he would go back to that guy, I knew how to deal with him better.

I read most of your posts, but I don't feel as if I have anything to add to the already wise (and funny) women already posting.

My h is gone on a business trip for two days and I don't miss him. He all but begged me to go last night, telling me he as a place ready for my machines (I take them with us when I travel with him). But I just didn't want to go and I really wanted to go back to my "old" life for a little while.

I got used to being left alone all the time, now I have absolutely no privacy, he is around me 24/7. I can't talk him into getting a 'real" job where is his gone 9-5.

HB was over the day after he confessed all. He said he is totally decompressing - whatever that means!

Grr...just one of those days. I think I'll go take a nap.


BW 47
M 1982 4 Adult Children
2 Grandkids - the light & loves of my life.
LTA Started before we were married and lsted until 9/02 DDay 4/4/04, TT till 9/24/2011

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Default  Posted: 2:34 PM, December 10th (Monday), 2007View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Run Ė Yep. Know exactly what you mean, except I have boys. I canít keep up with who theyíre seeing, but some of them have been ďlong termĒ and I think itís really sad when they break up and I know they wonít be dropping by anymore. No3 son was so bad when he split after a couple of years with one girl. But they move on. Theyíre young, so lucky them!!

HBH, same here. Makes it worse, knowing it was the whole caboodle, not just sex. And 25Wimsey, Iím with you on that one. I was incredulous he could carry on f*cking her, but he said he was buying time, looking for a way out and that, with regard to feelings, why should he have feelings ďThe situation that I had put myself in was the focus of the real feelings, and little to do with sex.Ē Hmm. The sex couldnít have been that bad then.

(((LostH))). Not good. Not good at all. #1, stop being grateful and #2, stop saying thank you. HE should be grateful. HE should be saying thank you to YOU. There is nothing wrong with your behaviour cos heís the one out of line, IMO. Sorry, just got to let off at you. Donít take this sh*t, you deserve better. So do the kids.

GTMI, Got my H at home 24/7 too, garden leave ended Oct, now job hunting with one maybe secured by Xmas. And the pc crashed, so heís on my laptop until itís fixed Ö. Grrr. But business trips, yeh, went off all the time. Thatís where OW came in. Did she know she was covered by the company credit card???

FNF (and anyone else!) - Iíve redone my OWH letter. Iíll edit it when Iím less tired/hacked off and see what you think?. Got it down from three pages to two thirds of a page. Succinct. Ish.

Back tomorrow. Hang in there everyone.


D-Day: 30 July 2006 LTA: 5yrs
Me, BS, 56 y/o Him, WS, 57 y/o
MOW, pathetic ex-fiancee.
3 grown boys and one 18 y/o
I don't consider myself married anymore.
There are some words once spoken split the world in two. Before you say them and after.

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Default  Posted: 2:36 PM, December 10th (Monday), 2007View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

My h also had strong, very strong feelings for the ow. They declared their love for one another. In the beginning the ow pretended that it was ok with her to be a side dish/friends with benefits, but later she started begging for him to leave me. They too had many fights and break ups over this. He told her that he loved her but that he also loved me. Once she started in on him to leave me, he knew that he was leading her on but he was hooked. That is when his guilt kicked in as he knew that he was being misleading to her. To keep her, he made vague references that "someday" they would be together. She would get furious b/c he would never discuss how "someday" would come about.

I would feel that my h was a worse person if he had just had a dick relationship with her and had no feelings for her. That would make me see him as a ruthless user rather than a selfish, want to have it all, dick for brains. I think that if a person has a lta without feelings that they might be a psychopath. I just think that it is probably the case that most of our fwh's did have strong feelings and a bond with their ow.


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Default  Posted: 3:38 PM, December 10th (Monday), 2007View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Yeah, I wish my H just screwed the piece of shit herpe whore. He told her he would leave me. Says he never was going to--that he told her what she wanted him to say. Too many ILY's and break up/make ups in my book. Yeah, I'll bet the makeup sex was great! FUCKERS.

Eh--fuck him. Today's no good. He's an asshole piece of shit cheater.

So much for my progress.


LTA BS

If you think the grass is greener on the other side, it's because it's fertilized with bullshit.

The best protection a woman can have is courage.~Elizabeth Cady Stanton


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Default  Posted: 4:05 PM, December 10th (Monday), 2007View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((((run)))))

no mor- you made me laugh out loud over that!

LH- it sounds like your IC is really good. Listen to her, please.

FSA-
Glad to have the songs back!


me-LTA BW


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Default  Posted: 6:57 PM, December 10th (Monday), 2007View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

No song thoughts tonight. Guess I'll just have to come on and talk as plain ole FSA.

Have IC tomorrow. It's been two weeks b/c she had to cancel last week due to a death in the family. My homework for the past two weeks were to push the negative thoughts back. And to try and treat H with love instead of using my sharp tongue. Well if she is going to grade me, I've definitely got an F coming, at the very least a D-. The roller coaster has still got a hold on me. Not as big of dips and dives, but still taking me for a ride. Maybe I should type up my songs for her and see what she thinks about them. Nah. I haven't told her about SI. She hasn't asked so I haven't offered. But if she does ask I'll tell her the truth. One thing I've learned from this LTA crap. My feelings and wants are valid. If someone doesn't like them, tough luck.

No More, my H has just recently mentioned us taking a cruise. I've been somewhat reluctant. I'm afraid that I might be sick through the whole thing. But I know you'll have a beautiful time.

Got to cut it short ladies. Homework calls for my DS.

I could use some ideas on song titles, I'm running out. Just please don't give me any Christmas songs that are Christian based. I don't think I could do that one and still sleep at night. 'Course I haven't picked on old Frosty the Snowman yet. But tomorrow is another day.

FSA


Together we're working through an LTA

If a man says something in the woods and there's not a woman there to hear it, is he still wrong?


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Default  Posted: 7:50 PM, December 10th (Monday), 2007View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

((((run))))

I love Christmas songs BUT the fmow's name is in alot of them.

[This message edited by no mor surprises at 8:41 PM, November 19th (Wednesday)]


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Default  Posted: 8:41 PM, December 10th (Monday), 2007View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hello after a looooong absence. Life has thrown several curves since I last posted...but I am still standing. Too long to go into but somehow, thankfully...tomorrow always comes.

So many new faces and names....but what hasn't changed here is the utter devastation the LTA's deliver....and sadly, all the new stories here bear that out.

Welcome and warn hugs to you new folks.
It's not the most desirable place to belong to, but if you do.....it is a safe and nurturing one.

SO ironic to check in tonight and see no mor's victory post.

WOO HOO..no mor, you KNOW how happy I AM to hear this....happy and inspired that my day will come too.

For the newbies.....
My H's LTA was 8 years with the usual POS leech and parasite determined to have my life. It had a few really ugly twists, like my daughters finding out and confronting them both at the two year mark and my H pledging she was just a side-piece and it was over...and then threatening to kill himself if they ever told me. That bought him 6 more years of it until I finally found out.

The OW was the textbook, lowlife slut/OW....a POS who knew he was lying but eagerly fed from the same ego trough that all sluts do who go after married men.........
An embarrassment to all women...who really thought that being valid only in parking lots and blocked calls was a replacement for self-respect and dignity.

That's my story in an ugly little nutshell.

SO glad to see so many oldies here....

We have had deaths to contend with....and it has been a long process of helping family members bi-coastlly. Airports have become home. No time except for work, home, phone.......trips back and forth.

Getting through it okay and actually H and I were interacting like a team......but then, lo and behold.....I sunk way, way low last week...like it was D-day all over again. Really scared me with its intensity....
I felt almost manic and despondent about staying on with him.

I still am working out the why's of it all. It was an absolute monster flashback.....and reopened all those wounds...including vile loathing for the parasite who so happily joined in trying to ruin my life.

Anyway....glad to be here in "our recovery room"...and, thanks to knowing what and why we all are here...I have faith that setbacks are part of this ugly deal.

But no mor...thanks to seeing you finally "have your day".....I am ever hopeful that I too will know when the moment is right to expose the bitch to all whom she has duped.

Run.......BIG HUGS...

And hugs to all of us LTA goddesees....we are stronger than their delusions could ever be.

[This message edited by numb and scared at 8:49 PM, December 10th (Monday)]


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"Lying is the strongest acknowledgement of the force of truth."
- William Hazlitt
"Let us move on, and step out boldly, though it be into the night, and we can scarcely see the way."
-Charles B. Newcomb



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Default  Posted: 9:08 PM, December 10th (Monday), 2007View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

OMG!! ((((((NAS))))) Soooooo good to have you back in the LTA tribal fold! You were sorely missed. I know you've been going through so much with your family and it's no wonder you've crashed emotionally with the LTA back front and center. I don't think any of us can face any kind of emotional upset without some sort of LTA seismic reading anymore. God I hope this goes away some day for all of us. It's really great to have you back though. As you can see our tribe has grown since you've been away. Again, it's great to have you back.

(((((Run))))) Special hugs to you tonight. You sound like you need 'em. Thinking of you hon.


M 20 years / together 25 yrs
6 yr LTA
Me 47
FWH 48
D-Day Jan. 2006
We're good and getting better every day!

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Default  Posted: 9:34 PM, December 10th (Monday), 2007View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I don't think any of us can face any kind of emotional upset without some sort of LTA seismic reading anymore. God I hope this goes away some day for all of us.

Hi Cowgirl, I was hoping you would pop up. I am reading back pages as fast as I can...congrats on the almost finished renovations. That has to feel so good ..and so new and so hopeful.

"seimic reading".......
so well put. Like we are now damn human seismographs...!!!

Truth is once you have had your world rocked with an LTA....I guess we ARE very prone to "tremors" causing a cascade of emotions.

I have had to sit in a lot of airports these last months and have noticed I have acquired a habit that seems inescapable and instinctive.....I look at people...at couples..and wonder who is the liar...who is the cheater...who is getting away with it with the sham and "pretending" to be real??
I wonder which one of them is being lied to and demoralized and think how horrible will it be for them when they have to find out...and as we all here know...they will find out.

This seems to be one of the leftovers of the LTA....not exactly a productive way to pass the time but it is what it is. Our gift from the BS, even if R'd....chronic cynicism.


It's really great to have you back though. As you can see our tribe has grown since you've been away.

I am glad to be back....as weird and unwanted as it is...being here is now part of who I am.

(((()))))

[This message edited by numb and scared at 9:36 PM, December 10th (Monday)]


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LTA
"Lying is the strongest acknowledgement of the force of truth."
- William Hazlitt
"Let us move on, and step out boldly, though it be into the night, and we can scarcely see the way."
-Charles B. Newcomb



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