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Topic: N.P.D. Thread Part V
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napewastewin
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Member # 15297 |  Posted: 4:49 AM, January 31st (Thursday), 2008 |     |
Am I nuts for fighting so hard and so long for someone who may never really love me? I am being acused of being distant  I know I have been angry and am fighting to pull out of my own little hell but distant. He pushes me away, can't be bothered with me. Doesn't want to spend much time with me. How many times can he push me away, ignore me, or just walk away when I come into a room and then when I go to the room he is in he leaves for another???? Am I distant or just need a shower, yeah maybe that's it.
take your candle and go light your world
Posts: 1443 | Registered: Jul 2007 | From: Michigan | discombobulated
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Member # 6580 | | Posted: 5:25 AM, January 31st (Thursday), 2008 | |
Longlost - thank you for posting this.
I'm having a horrible night - well now morning too.
MY stbx npd wh has my boys. It's like they're being held hostage by hannable lecter. He has perverted their world view, morals, lives.
Last week in court the judge told npd asshole that he was "deplorable" but instead of giving me legal control over my kids, he ordered pyshc evals - which can take up to a YEAR to complete.
My 13 yr old son is drowning in sewage (provided by NPD father), I'm standing right here with my hands out to rescue him and the judge say, "oh,it's not that bad, he can survive a while longer..."
I JUST WANT TO SCREAM UNTIL MY HEAD EXPLODES!!!!!!!!
I've been up all night crying , howling and praying and now I have to go to work and encourage other people. I'm on Empty. I'm so disgusted and frustrated.
I'm ready to color outside of the lines. But no matter what cvourse of action I choose, I won't have the law on my childs side. If I had know then what I know now... I would have handled all of this so differently.
TRUST YOUR GUT FEELINGS!!!!!
BS - age 52- married 27 years, in IC, support groups
WH - age 57 - sex addict/porn addict, NPD
Children 2 boys, 19 & 16
D-day #1 2/2/05, D-day #2: 1/22/06
R 4/21/05, but that was another lie, just a game.
D-day #3 11/06
Divorce final may 09
Posts: 2151 | Registered: Mar 2005 | From: Florida | discombobulated
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Member # 6580 | | Posted: 5:28 AM, January 31st (Thursday), 2008 | |
Please pray that God will protect my boys from the evil they are being immersed in. Pray that God will give me wisdom.
BS - age 52- married 27 years, in IC, support groups
WH - age 57 - sex addict/porn addict, NPD
Children 2 boys, 19 & 16
D-day #1 2/2/05, D-day #2: 1/22/06
R 4/21/05, but that was another lie, just a game.
D-day #3 11/06
Divorce final may 09
Posts: 2151 | Registered: Mar 2005 | From: Florida | napewastewin
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Member # 15297 | | Posted: 5:32 AM, January 31st (Thursday), 2008 | |
I pray that God wrap your children in a hedge of protection and keep them from harm.
take your candle and go light your world
Posts: 1443 | Registered: Jul 2007 | From: Michigan | discombobulated
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Member # 6580 | | Posted: 5:37 AM, January 31st (Thursday), 2008 | |
Thank you. I'm so afriad for for both of them. Praying Psalm 91 all day today...
BS - age 52- married 27 years, in IC, support groups
WH - age 57 - sex addict/porn addict, NPD
Children 2 boys, 19 & 16
D-day #1 2/2/05, D-day #2: 1/22/06
R 4/21/05, but that was another lie, just a game.
D-day #3 11/06
Divorce final may 09
Posts: 2151 | Registered: Mar 2005 | From: Florida | bobelina
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Member # 15312 | | Posted: 6:56 AM, January 31st (Thursday), 2008 | |
(((Nape))) & (((Disco)))
Prayers, thoughts, hugs and kisses. To you.
BoB 
Mean People Suck (Especially Narcissists)
Posts: 1817 | Registered: Jul 2007 | From: Over the Hills and Far Away... | jjct
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Member # 17484 | | Posted: 7:11 AM, January 31st (Thursday), 2008 | |
[This message edited by jjct at 8:00 PM, February 19th (Tuesday)]
Imagine. Your best move.
Now imagine it used against you.
Posts: 4480 | Registered: Dec 2007 | From: texas | bobelina
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Member # 15312 | | Posted: 7:13 AM, January 31st (Thursday), 2008 | |
(((Disco)
How long has Captain Dingle*Berry*Numb*Nuts (Special SI Secret Code for He who is Difficult, LOL) had the boys?
(((Dreamy)))
Hope that you slept well. How's the Snowman? And the GPS? (May it travel the world over, from the Sea of Japan to the Cliffs of Dover~The Police).
(((Tribe)))
(((NC)))
How is Babie Luna? How are you?
(((CJ)))
What?
(((KT)))
SO he works in the Shrinky*Dink field (SI Latin for Mental Health), yet he has these *issues*? That has got to be so super*hard to deal with. Hmmmmmmmm..... Kinda like a moralist preacher with a harem.
(((Threnody)))
May his emailcapades cause his fingers to vibrate with the oscillations of a root canal. He needs to leave you alone. NOW !!! He's a Punk*Ass*Biotch (Slang for DINK, SI slang for one who needs a cranial and attitudal adjustment).
(((JJCT))) & (((Stung)))
Hmmmmm.... Maybe I'll bake soon....
(((Lied))), (((Jane))), (((LL))), (((SadToo))), (Itsa))), (((Cerise))), (((Tribe))) (of Lightbulbs and Toasters, AKA: The N-Survivors Club, AKA: The Club of and From Hell, AKA: The Island of Misfit Toys).
BoB [This message edited by bobelina at 7:14 AM, January 31st (Thursday)]
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Posts: 1817 | Registered: Jul 2007 | From: Over the Hills and Far Away... | lied2
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Member # 1807 | | Posted: 8:05 AM, January 31st (Thursday), 2008 | |
This party stuch out at me from that article
How does one wrap their hearts and minds around the idea that there was no relationship? That the months or many years we spent with the psychopath/N simply existed in our own minds, because we assumed the other was normal and they let us fill in the gaps with our own humanity? All those wasted years and energy. For nothing. Who can gaze into that abyss and not flinch? Who can live without certainty? Who can live without certainty of closure? If it was one big fat lie, what will fill the hole? We need to fill the hole, connect the gap, in order to heal. How will we do it? How much disbelief can we bear? We tell ourselves, perhaps it is better to hear that we are defective in some manner. We are echoes. In time they will make a new personality disorder just for us, let's say, for example, "echo personality disorder" and then we can finally understand.
I am definitally moving towards acceptance and healing. It just still blows my mind that I spent years with someone that was incapable of a real relationship. How could I have been so stupid? The $10,000 + it cost me to get out was worth every penny and then some because I am slowly getting my life back.
I had a discussion the other day with my son about the internet etc. It turns out that his father still has porn on his computer that the oldest found a few months back while using his father's computer.   I guess the new one is not "doing her job" and keeping him satisfied either. Or maybe it is the stress of the upcoming moving in together and wedding that is driving him. Nice to know nothing has really changed.
As for dealing with nut cases like the Psycho Doctor, just keep your cool the best you can. We have your back and if it helps, think of us standing beside you cheering you on. We certainly would be there if we could.
(((((EVERYONE)))))
The grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence. It is astro turf.
The essence of love is not what we think or do or provide for others, but how much we give of ourselves.
A clean house is the sign of a broken computer.
Posts: 8195 | Registered: Aug 2003 | From: Ontario, Canada | bobelina
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Member # 15312 | | Posted: 8:06 AM, January 31st (Thursday), 2008 | |
(((Tribe)))
The Award for Most Reliable "NPD Freak" goes to.......
Drum roll, please..........
BoB's STBXPDW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hooray !!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!??!!!! 
Check out this performance of the last 20 hours:
STBXPDW starts texting/calling DD13, "Do you want to come over?", "Can you stay overnight cause it's to cold to pick you up in the morning?". DD13, "Dad can we stay at mom's tonight? It'll be OK."
Me: "Hmmmm..... After all that has gone on I'd prefer not." DD13 gets a bit pissy.
I ask her if her exH did these things would she feel comfortable with her kids overnight. She says, "No".
Same convo with DD8 and then both as we are waiting for STBXPDW for 12 Noon pick up.
12Noon comes and goes. Barrage of texts and calls from DDs to STBXPDW, "Where are you?", "Where are you now?".
STBXPDW:
"Had to wait for movie to end". Then, "Had to warm up van". Then, "Had to drop off books at library". Then, "Roads are icy".
STBXPDW arrives at 12:53PM.
DD13 is to be home at 4PM. I call her from school as I will be about 5 mins late. She didn't bring her key either.
I haul ass home. Get there at 4:06PM. No DD13. At 4:15PM I call her. She's on her way. Friends pull up to pick her up at 4:15PM. DD13 gets home about 4:20+. In a tizzy to get back out the door (Went to see High School Musical on Ice).
DD8 is to be home at 6:30PM. Home at 6:57PM.
DD13 had a good time at HSM on Ice. Home at 9:37PM.
STBXPDW is to pick up kids for school this morning at 7:30AM. Texts DD13 at 7:22AM? she's on her way. AT 7:37AM I say to kids I'll take you to school. AT 7:40PM as DDs and I are headed out door STBXPDW shows up.
WOW !!!! What a performance. Boy, oh boy, does she deserve this award that she has so diligently worked so hard for !!! LOL.   
As always, isolated, none of these incidents are all that big of a deal. Together, every move she made yesterday and today (so far) has been a SNAFU (Situation Normal: All Fucked Up).
It never ends. One must be on one's toes in dealing with an N. N does not stand for normal~Veritas.
BoB [This message edited by bobelina at 8:14 AM, January 31st (Thursday)]
Mean People Suck (Especially Narcissists)
Posts: 1817 | Registered: Jul 2007 | From: Over the Hills and Far Away... | bobelina
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Member # 15312 | | Posted: 8:32 AM, January 31st (Thursday), 2008 | |
(((Tribe)))
For your consideration:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cme2q0N7nM
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Stone Roses-I Wanna Be Adored
I dont have to sell my soul
Hes already in me
I dont need to sell my soul
Hes already in me
I wanna be adored
I wanna be adored
I dont have to sell my soul
Hes already in me
I dont need to sell my soul
Hes already in me
I wanna be adored
I wanna be adored
Adored
I wanna be adored
You adore me
You adore me
You adore me
I wanna
I wanna
I wanna be adored
Wanna
I wanna
I wanna be adored
I wanna
I wanna
I wanna be adored
I wanna
I wanna
I gotta be adored
I wanna be adored
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BoB
Mean People Suck (Especially Narcissists)
Posts: 1817 | Registered: Jul 2007 | From: Over the Hills and Far Away... | downfall
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Member # 7430 | | Posted: 9:33 AM, January 31st (Thursday), 2008 | |
I'm a Matchbox 20 fan myself (really downfall never would have guessed )
This is one of their newer ones. I hear it from a N being the singer.
Matchbox 20
I'll Believe You When
I've tried so many times
To tell you how I feel
But you're far too disbelieving
Are you tryin to get even with me
Maybe once or twice
I wasn't fair I wasn't nice
But now I've got myself together
When I promise to be better
You say
(Whoa) I'll believe you when
(Whoa) I'll believe you when
(Whoa) When everything you say don't turn out wrong
(Whoa) I'll believe you when
(Whoa) I'll believe you when
(Whoa) When everything you say don't turn out wrong
I could call you every day
Give presents by the score
And I could send you pretty flowers
Have them waiting at your door
I could write up in the sky
Forgive me I apologize
Still if I went through every measure
With my promise To Be Better
You'd say
(Whoa) I'll believe you when
(Whoa) I'll believe you when
(Whoa) When everything you say don't turn out wrong
(Whoa) I'll believe you when
(Whoa) I'll believe you when
(Whoa) When everything you say don't turn out wrong
There's nothing you can say
That I haven't tried
Nothing I can do will ever change your mind
Yeah, Maybe I'd do better
If I told somebody else
(Whoa) I'll believe you when
(Whoa) I'll believe you when
(Whoa) When everything you say don't turn out wrong
(Whoa) I'll believe you when
(Whoa) I'll believe you when
(Whoa) When everything you say don't turn out wrong
(Whoa) I'll believe you when
(Whoa) I'll believe you when
(Whoa) I'll believe you when when everything you tell isn't wrong
(Whoa) I'll believe you when
(Whoa) I'll believe you when
(Whoa) I'll believe you when when everything you say don't turn out wrong
((Hugs)) to the Tribe.
DF [This message edited by downfall at 9:34 AM, January 31st (Thursday)]
Dday June 16 2005: Separated 2/06 Divorced 3/09
Ah, but she can't take you any way
You don't already know how to go ~ Eagles
Posts: 3047 | Registered: Jun 2005 | downfall
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Member # 7430 | | Posted: 9:47 AM, January 31st (Thursday), 2008 | |
Good post in the D/S forum in case you didn't see it.
http://www.survivinginfidelity.com/forums.asp?tid=212661
Dday June 16 2005: Separated 2/06 Divorced 3/09
Ah, but she can't take you any way
You don't already know how to go ~ Eagles
Posts: 3047 | Registered: Jun 2005 | jjct
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Member # 17484 | | Posted: 10:18 AM, January 31st (Thursday), 2008 | |
[This message edited by jjct at 8:01 PM, February 19th (Tuesday)]
Imagine. Your best move.
Now imagine it used against you.
Posts: 4480 | Registered: Dec 2007 | From: texas | veritas
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Member # 3525 | | Posted: 11:22 AM, January 31st (Thursday), 2008 |  |
This is why I don't like to talk to this man... cause now I'm pissed off and can't quit crying... and I have work to do...
[08:31] asshat: I think we have crossed over. I'm not sure if it can be repaired. You don't like me, and I really need someone to "chill" with.
[08:33] Me: so what do you want to do about it?
[08:34] asshat: don't have a clue.
[08:34] Me: and if we're going to be fair, you don't like me, and i need someone to chill with.
[08:35] asshat: k, but you didn't like me first
[08:35] Me: not even close
[08:36] Me: you were out and about for a very long time. you smashed my heart into a million pieces so many times i can't even count
[08:37] asshat: sorry
[08:37] Me: and usually when you bring up these conversations it's because you already have a whore that you're running around with
[08:37] Me: and you just want me to give you permission
[08:38] Me: i'm tired of playing those games. i'm not doing it anymotr
[08:38] Me: *anymore
[08:38] Me: i give you permission, then you tell me that you don't know what you want
[08:39] Me: which means, i'm going to do what i'm going to do, but you need to continue staying home and continue being the good little hausfrau, chaste and boring
[08:39] asshat: and here is where i just want to say "You know, you're right." but, you're not.
[08:40] asshat: this all stems from last night for me.
[08:40] asshat: there were times we could at least find something to keep us entertained in bed for more that 5 minutes.
[08:41] asshat: the heart is willing, but the flesh... or maybe it's in the mind
[08:41] Me: so you're finally bored by the sex, too?
[08:41] asshat: what sex...
[08:41] Me: exactly
[08:42] asshat: It's not about sex... i think its all the same trust issue
[08:43] asshat: who wants to sleep with a stranger
[08:43] asshat: someone they have issues with...
[08:43] Me: you want to sleep with strangers
[08:43] asshat: that stink in the air is not budussy
[08:43] Me: you obviously have
[08:43] asshat: fuck you... done...
[08:46] Me: did you get your w2?
[08:47] asshat: sure, in my bag the last few days, remind me when me and the bag are at home
[08:52] Me: and are you well enough to watch lola tonight?
[08:53] asshat: wasn't planning on being home...
[08:53] asshat: need to get out myself
[08:53] asshat: this is an every thurdsy thing
[08:53] Me: yes
[08:53] asshat: sure mine too
[08:54] Me: okay. so when will my day off be?
[08:54] asshat: you get a day off...
[08:54] Me: night off
[08:54] asshat: off from what
[08:54] Me: what exactly is yours off from?
[08:55] asshat: life
[08:55] asshat: with
[08:55] asshat: hate
[08:55] Me: mine too. when is my night off?
[08:55] asshat: is
[08:55] asshat: no
[08:55] asshat: life
[08:55] asshat: fact: whenever you mention it, I'm gonna react poorly
[08:56] asshat: fact: the later you mention it, the worse the response
[08:56] Me: it's been 3 weeks now
[08:56] Me: how much notice do you need?
[08:57] asshat: fact: I can't remember anything from an hour ago
[08:57] asshat: fact: I don't give a fuck
[08:57] Me: so i can't mention it too late or too early
[08:57] Me: in fact not mention anything i need at all
[08:57] Me: but you need quite a bit
[08:58] Me: and i'm the one with the problem with the hate?
[08:58] asshat: is you only talk to me to piss me off, or is it every time you talk to me I get pissed off
[08:59] asshat: this is why I think we have passed over some threshold, into total crazy fucked up, beyond where ever we have been before.
[09:00] asshat: look, my head is throbbing... I usually don't have this early in the day.. nor do I chat with you during the day... I'm all tense, feel it across my chest. This is not working for me right now... I just want to explode
[09:00] Me: okay
[09:01] Me: i mean, you started this. you're the one handing out veiled insults and outright insults about how much you hate me.
[09:02] Me: we haven't crossed anything that we didn't cross a long time ago -- and i thought we had agreed on that
[09:03] Me: and you don't even have any other solutions to offer, which probably does not help
[09:04] Me: it used to be that you'd come in and attack me, and i'd bend over backwards to accommodate you
[09:04] Me: i don't do that anymore
[09:08] Me: because it doesn't matter. i could be a sex goddess, domestic diva, and mother of the year, and it would still not be enough
[09:09] Me: insanity is doing the same things and getting the same bad results. i'm not pretending like anything i do has any impact on you whatsoever anymore
[09:13] Me: but i guess you got what you wanted. you came in, picked a fight, and you get a free pass to go out on the town while even though I'm going out, I still have to deal with babysitting issues
[09:23] asshat: i don't know what to say. I starting to figure out it's best to say nothing. Do I love you? Yes, I've been in love with you since the days of sneaking you into my dorm room, or waking to my little hottie in bed with. I never pass through that part of town and not think about the great days we had.
[09:24] asshat: I just want some of that... don't get me wrong, it wasn't all roses. There were always parts I couldn't handle.
[09:25] asshat: But now, it's just too much... I don't want to share parts of my life with you, 'cause I feel like, why... what ever it is, she is going to find that one statement, comment, and then twist it and turn it, and strike me over the head with it. or worse.
[09:27] asshat: On going out... I've been running around most of the morning thinking it was Friday. I was pissed there was no newspaper, and then passed on one at the store cause I thought it was the wrong day.
[09:28] asshat: I don't use clocks, calendares or plan for anything, personal or work
[09:28] asshat: I leave home early so I can get a hot shower, I dont start work in the mornings until I feel like it... I leave work when I'm ready.
[09:28] asshat: I go home , or stopp of and fuck with potheads
[09:30] asshat: I have no real friends in my life. No one to really sit and talk to, about anything.
[09:32] asshat: and the person, I'm tied to for the rest of my life, hates me... we fuck them. When it's all done, I'll have my stroke. Then I'll really get to see who gives a fuck
[09:35] asshat: If I say, "You're right! I've fucked other people"... does this torture end.... I feel like a POW... hand anthing to me, I'll sign it... what ever it takes. What do I want, who knows, it changes from minute to minute.
[09:36] asshat: Solutions for what?
[09:36] Me: we're not tied for the rest of your life
[09:36] Me: any of the problems you've been citing
[09:37] asshat: look I'm not the type... I know where my life would go without you, lola and the boys around. Everybody gets screwed... me, you, them
[09:37] asshat: continues along the same lines as most of the conversation
[09:39] asshat: it's kinda hard to see what I want. i can't see past the frustration and violent thoughts.
[09:40] asshat: I see henery beat the shit out that girl, and she loves him to death...
[09:41] asshat: I watch many others in similar relationships, with us, we got everything. a nice home, ok jobs, some money, anything we want for the most part... except for that loving relationship we both want.
[09:42] asshat: I've often thought that if we so damn smart why can't we make this work
[09:42] asshat: what's the point of being together if we hate each other so much.
[09:42] Me: that girl was arrested at 12 for something her brother did
[09:43] Me: she's had it rough
[09:43] asshat: at one part I thought it would be good for the kids. but at some point it fucks them up. I don't want my boys in som shit like this
[09:43] Me: i agree
[09:45] asshat: we disagree on method and manner for everything... sometimes, I just poke, cause' I can. 2+2=5, bitch
[09:46] Me: i know
[09:46] asshat: sometimes it comes from a jovial spot, but your interpretation is that it is from somwhere else... I get angry, and turn the burner on high
[09:46] asshat: stoopid doink... that wasn't what I was talking about, but if yo insist...
[09:47] asshat: sometimes I think we both are overly sensitive
[09:47] asshat: I wish i could go back and fix it all, but I wouldn't even know where to start
[09:48] Me: true
[09:48] asshat: I think you are strange, you do things differently from me.
[09:49] asshat: Without a doubt, we are both too old to be changing... who I am is who I am, and forever will be. Same with you. Love it or leave it.
[09:51] Me: yep
[09:53] asshat: I thought it was funny from K/Cat williams, i've always felt the condition of the relationship is the bitch problem. I dont care 99% of the time, like the man said, as long as there is food and pussy everyonce in a while... If I get hungry I can cook. When I run outta clothes I'll wash.
[09:53] asshat: I got to get to work...
[09:55] Me: okay
[This message edited by veritas at 3:06 PM, January 31st (Thursday)]
Actions unmask what words disguise.
Love many; trust few; and always paddle your own canoe.
When you win, you teach; when you lose, you learn.
Posts: 10164 | Registered: Feb 2004 | bobelina
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Member # 15312 | | Posted: 11:57 AM, January 31st (Thursday), 2008 | |
(((veritas)))
You've got to be fucking kidding me (and the rest of the Tribe).
Oh, my. Please, please, please, get the fucking hell out of there. He is nuts. APD, NPD Freak.
You do not deserve this. His contempt, disregard, disrespect, etc. etc. etc. of you the Bunny and the boys is freaking appaling. I'm scared for you, Veritas.
I'm so, so, sorry that you are dealing with this fuckfacefucktardedasshatedfuckedupfuckheaded monster (SI Lingo for really messed up person).
Oh, my. Oh, my.........
Can I hug you and hold you and tell you it'll be OK? (((({{{{Veritas, Lola, Boys}}}}))))
Please leave now, not in two years. You will find away. We'll all help you.
BoB
Mean People Suck (Especially Narcissists)
Posts: 1817 | Registered: Jul 2007 | From: Over the Hills and Far Away... | Longlost
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Member # 16177 | | Posted: 12:16 PM, January 31st (Thursday), 2008 | |
(((Veritas)))
Wisdom and pain are not mutually exclusive.
____________________________
Barn's burnt down--
Now I can see the moon.
--Mizuta Masahide
Posts: 288 | Registered: Sep 2007 | From: West of Bizarro World | Longlost
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Member # 16177 | | Posted: 12:17 PM, January 31st (Thursday), 2008 | |
(((disc)))
(((nape)))
(((Tribe)))
I'm so sorry. I am thinking about you. I wish I could help.
Wisdom and pain are not mutually exclusive.
____________________________
Barn's burnt down--
Now I can see the moon.
--Mizuta Masahide
Posts: 288 | Registered: Sep 2007 | From: West of Bizarro World | Threnody
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Member # 1558 | | Posted: 12:42 PM, January 31st (Thursday), 2008 | |
Veritas, call a shelter *NOW*. There are red flags all over that communication.
I know you had a plan, but it's time to accelerate it. Pull family and friends into it, anybody that can watch the kids and help you get out *now*. But you call that shelter immediately and let them help guide you through the process.
Please do this. Please.
“If you don't like my opinion of you, you can always improve.” ~ Ashleigh Brilliant
"Great love requires determination." ~ tryingtwo
"Don't try to win over the haters, you're not the jackass whisperer." ~ Brene Brown
Posts: 13783 | Registered: Jun 2003 | From: Middle-of-Diddly, TX | dreamlife
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Member # 8142 | | Posted: 2:58 PM, January 31st (Thursday), 2008 | |
Veritas!...'VIOLENT THOUGHTS'!!
This is very SERIOUS, girl! 
WOW!!!!!!!!!!
~WH told me what I wanted to hear but he always did whatever he wanted to do~
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