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User Topic: Long Term Affairs -IX
numb and scared
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Default  Posted: 6:49 PM, February 12th (Tuesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage


I didn't make it to the red-bows luncheon. Weather was a minor factor (we live north on the ice-line) but I could have gone. The real reason was that I was not in the right space to interact with the goddesses without projecting my V-day antiversary funk.

But after the luncheon, no mor and I had a long phone chat about "stuff."
She had commented how vibrant and nice and real the other two are. We talked about how we all have met here online, in this thread specifically, and how many of us have met each other in real time or talked on the phone....have gotten to know each other beyond the impersonal cover of the keyboard and mouse.

How all of us here are normal people, normal wives/women..doing the woman thing. Raising or having raised kids, attended/attending to parents and extended families. Have or had careers and dreams. Interesting, normal people.

Surely not perfect people, but your average, sincere people living their lives.

All capable, normal women (and our few guys here too) who have spouses who are lacking "something" that made them not able to be satisfied with "normal."
Spouses who needed/ wanted to live a duplicitous life with all the deceit required to do so.

We say it and say it...the LTA is a very brutal version of infidelity and betrayal.

It destroys so much, yet it also reveals a WS who has much and many issues...more than just wanting a free lay and/or a cheap serving of vapid ego-compliments.

Once they have crossed their ethical line, the secret, double life of the LTA speaks to something in them that craves validation for their inadequacies.
BS of the LTA can list all of their "wish I had done things differently." We all have them and seek help to conquer them.
But the major hurdle is for the WS to figure out what inside of them has the flaw..the missing piece...that allowed this level of betrayal.
It is also the biggest hurdle for the BS.

Hugs to all

[This message edited by numb and scared at 6:50 PM, February 12th (Tuesday)]


BS
LTA
"Lying is the strongest acknowledgement of the force of truth."
- William Hazlitt
"Let us move on, and step out boldly, though it be into the night, and we can scarcely see the way."
-Charles B. Newcomb



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hearbroken
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Default  Posted: 7:29 PM, February 12th (Tuesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Awesome that some of our tribal sisters were able to meet up today!

NAS, I am sorry Vday is causing you angst. Is there a particular reason or trigger for this, or just the all around funky mood stuff?

I'm in a "funk" now, too, but not because of Vday. It's more like my R with my FWH seems to be stagnant.... and I'm feeling hopeless. We did so much work and accomplished so much, but now I look at this and wonder "is this it?" I'm only 38 and have got a lot of years left for this to be it. Money is so tight right now that going back to counseling, for now, is not an option. We've got a lot of financial stressor going on right now, and I wonder if that's leading to the escalating arguments we are having.

Zanny, good to "see" you and hear that you are doing OK. I was just wondering how things were going for you....

(((TRIBE))))

HB


Dday1 8/05 (LTA)
Dday2 4/09 (online EA 2 weeks then confessed)
Dday 3 8/10 ("full disclosure" of more infidelity prior to 2009)

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runoverbytruck
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Default  Posted: 7:32 PM, February 12th (Tuesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'm in a "funk" now, too, but not because of Vday. It's more like my R with my FWH seems to be stagnant.... and I'm feeling hopeless. We did so much work and accomplished so much, but now I look at this and wonder "is this it?" I'm only 38 and have got a lot of years left for this to be it. Money is so tight right now that going back to counseling, for now, is not an option. We've got a lot of financial stressor going on right now, and I wonder if that's leading to the escalating arguments we are having.

Uh, God, hearTbroken. Did you crawl in my head and pull that out? This is my LIFE right now! You're freaking me out.


LTA BS

If you think the grass is greener on the other side, it's because it's fertilized with bullshit.

The best protection a woman can have is courage.~Elizabeth Cady Stanton


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hearbroken
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Default  Posted: 8:04 PM, February 12th (Tuesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Run,

Did you crawl in my head and pull that out?

I guess you can just call us kindred souls. I swear I'm not stalking the inside of your mind

But I did take my own advice today and went out and pampered myself a bit. Since money is extremely tight, I found a beauty school by my house and got my hair and nails done for dirt cheap.

Hope things will be on the upswing for us, Run, and SOON....

HB

[This message edited by hearbroken at 8:05 PM, February 12th (Tuesday)]


Dday1 8/05 (LTA)
Dday2 4/09 (online EA 2 weeks then confessed)
Dday 3 8/10 ("full disclosure" of more infidelity prior to 2009)

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weepy
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Default  Posted: 8:18 PM, February 12th (Tuesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Just popping in quickly to say how wonderful lunch was. There is no freaking way we're of "that age". I just looked around that table and thought... here we are talking about not having many years left and realizing we have about 30 years left on average.

We can't rely on that "well if we only have THIS much time, might as well make the best of it." No, we need to make it GREAT.

I can't stay on. H and I are falling asleep on the couch. He asked me if my "big lunch" wore me out today.

He has an interview tomorrow so I might not be on until mid-morning.

G'nite sisters all.


Dday: 9/12/05
M: 29 yrs( me anyway )
BS(me): 55 And I'm ok with that
FWS: 57- Multiple PAs, LTA 7? yrs.

Try not. Do or do not, there is no try. -- Yoda


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lostsuol
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Default  Posted: 8:45 PM, February 12th (Tuesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

just stopped in to see about today's lunch meeting... sorry NaS didn't make it. Maybe the others would have lifted your spirits. You summed us up so well. and WS's too. I don't think my FWH is seeking his 'missing' piece...

I talked to a friend who knows today and it helped a bit.

I don't know what I'd be feeling about R if I was 20 yrs younger... I think that a "is that all there is?" perspective would have me wanting him to shape up or ship out. But then hindsight is often 20/20 isn't it?


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forgivenotforget
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Default  Posted: 8:51 PM, February 12th (Tuesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Numb - we missed you today. I'm sorry that you were not feeling up to meeting with us. We all know what those days are like, days where we just want/need to bury our heads, pull ourselves into a ball and hope that the day passes quickly. That not- wanting-to-think-about-the-A kind of day. But you were there with us - all of you were because we're all in this together.
Numb - your post this evening reached into my soul. There was something so raw in your words and I can't quite describe how they affected me. I think there is always this need in me to get back to the normal you're talking about but realizing that I'll never quite get back there again. I feel like my H's LTA has forever stained my M, my life, my idealism. Nothing he will ever do can return the innocence and joy that his selfishness stole from me and from my children. And for what?? It is so meaningless, so absolutely pathetic. That some low-life, hideous creature with a self-esteem even lower than his own could enter my world and steal from me what was rightfully mine, and that he invited her to do just that, is beyond comprehension. We talk about entitlement as the attitude of some of these WS's - well as his wife I was entitled. I was entitled to his loyalty, his love, his care and devotion, his respect, his companionship, his sexuality, and together they stole each of these things for years. This is no minor offense no matter how many times our S's try to minimize their LTA's. It is why I get so angry when I read some of the posts of S's who just can't understand why we can't move on. They are so clueless as to the depth of their destruction.
Lost Heart - I am so hurt for you and for what you experienced today. There is no justification for his walking away. It was pure cowardice. I only hope that he recognized that and has attempted to comfort you tonight. (((LH)))
On a more upbeat note I want to thank both Weepy and NoMor for our wonderful afternoon. You were both so warm and caring and it was my pleasure to share our time together. I hope we can do this again and hopefully Numb will be able to join us. Hugs to you both and to all the tribe.


D-day - 12/23/05 LTA - 8 years.
"Love's a matter of trust and I just want to believe in us." M McBride

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numb and scared
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Default  Posted: 10:04 PM, February 12th (Tuesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Is there a particular reason or trigger for this, or just the all around funky mood stuff?

HB,

D-day was/is Valentine's Day.
I found the receipt from a jeweler where he bought an expensive necklace...it wasn't for me. And then found out the whole ugly, sick story.
V-day is about those memories now.
All I can say is when he chose to screw up, he did it across the board.

fnf,

We talk about entitlement as the attitude of some of these WS's - well as his wife I was entitled. I was entitled to his loyalty, his love, his care and devotion, his respect, his companionship, his sexuality, and together they stole each of these things for years. This is no minor offense no matter how many times our S's try to minimize their LTA's

Yes....all of what you wrote.
If there is an entitlement factor in a marriage, and if these are what each partner is "entitled to"....then this is what a LTA WS denies the BS and ultimately, the M.
It sucks the life out of the M.

I sound like a broken record...but this is what MC's and IC's MUST understand when agreeing to treat a BS from a LTA.
And if they don't get it, then how the hell is the WS sitting there in those sessions with the BS ever going to get it???

Lost,
Thinking of you and just sending hugs.


BS
LTA
"Lying is the strongest acknowledgement of the force of truth."
- William Hazlitt
"Let us move on, and step out boldly, though it be into the night, and we can scarcely see the way."
-Charles B. Newcomb



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Feeling so alone
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Default  Posted: 10:07 PM, February 12th (Tuesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

realizing that I'll never quite get back there again. I feel like my H's LTA has forever stained my M, my life, my idealism. Nothing he will ever do can return the innocence and joy that his selfishness stole from me and from my children. And for what?? It is so meaningless, so absolutely pathetic. That some low-life, hideous creature with a self-esteem even lower than his own could enter my world and steal from me what was rightfully mine, and that he invited her to do just that, is beyond comprehension.

FNF now you're climbing into my head. I had this exact same conversation with my H just today. I just read your post to him and asked him if that rang any bells. Sometimes I worry that he may think that my "issues" are just me. It always makes me feel good to be able to show him that it's not just me.
Too many awesome posts this evening for me to even try and quote all. Great great stuff. And the meeting. Good for ya'll, I know it had to be great.

FSA


Together we're working through an LTA

If a man says something in the woods and there's not a woman there to hear it, is he still wrong?


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hearbroken
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Default  Posted: 11:44 PM, February 12th (Tuesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

NAS,

D-day was/is Valentine's Day.

Forgive me for not remembering. Now your "funk" makes so much sense. You've got what I call the "anticipatory" grief of the oncoming antiversary. Sigh. I feel the pain in your words and hope that this too shall pass...

Sending you "buckets of white light" as our Zanny would say.

Hugs,
HB


Dday1 8/05 (LTA)
Dday2 4/09 (online EA 2 weeks then confessed)
Dday 3 8/10 ("full disclosure" of more infidelity prior to 2009)

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Lost Heart
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Default  Posted: 3:53 AM, February 13th (Wednesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Good morning all.

Wow, so many insights that I am just going to say "Thats it exactly!" to all the posts, and not start quoting every line!

Fnf: no, H didnt come to me last night, or this morning, although he did kiss me goodbye (that made me all breathless and weak at the knees and I instantly forgave him for everything....NOT! ).

BUT you know what? I am ok! I slept reasonably well (although an unusually bad bout of mittelschmerz had me rolling around a few times, and wondering if it was my appendix )and I am feeling OK today. Either I am the Supreme Queen of Denial, or I really am ok.
Hmmm...

***
LostS, I am 20 years younger than you and trying to R.I dont think it makes that much of a difference.

***
((((NAS))))

Have you and H thought out what you are going to do on Thursday?
How would you like to spend the day (and no, hiding under the duvet doesnt count!). Come on NAs, there has to be something you would like to do to reclaim the day, or mark how well you have done for the last 2 years?

And you have done incredibly well Nas.Your strength and wisdom and compassion has been one of the guiding lights on this thread.Thank you.

***
Re. the financial stresses some of us are going through.

Can I ask what is the common theme through your fights?

H has always been an impulsive extravagant spender. HE lives for the now. Whereas I am very cautious and live for the end of the month, end of 6 months, end of 5 years (LOL). So I have been accused of not being fun, being a miser and cheap for believing that we shouldnt be spending money we dont have. And I HATE credit cards!

So is it the same for you guys?

***
Can you imagine what we will be like if we all met up? One lunch wont cut it. At least a 3 day convention!! Which reminds me, how is the Big US LTA SI meet up coming along?

***
Thank you all for the hugs and support. I am positive its a huge part of why I can smile today.


Everyday is a winding road
I get a little bit closer
Everyday is a faded sign
I get a little bit closer to feeling fine

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Lost Heart
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Default  Posted: 4:05 AM, February 13th (Wednesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

((((((ROBT))))))

I read your response to Maia's post in WF. Whats going on Run? How can we help? Please. You have been there for me (us) so many many times.


Everyday is a winding road
I get a little bit closer
Everyday is a faded sign
I get a little bit closer to feeling fine

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Feeling so alone
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Default  Posted: 6:04 AM, February 13th (Wednesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Good Morning

Run I went and read your post to Maia after Lost mentioned it.
The way that I look at trust when it comes to God healing me...... I'm not healed yet. I'm still messed up. I still struggle. Even after all the prayer. But...... I have faith that this will come to an end. I can't say when or how but I know that I know that I know that God will give me peace from this. How do I know this. B/c He promised to answer prayers. So I know that there is an end to this journey, an end to this path. And I will make it there someday, just not today.
Keep The Faith!!!!

Lost you sound good this morning despite your H. As you walk by him today thump him on the back of the head and tell him that was from FSA. (not really) I wouldn't want to start something, but you can imagine doing it anyway. No spine. There's not a one of us on here that doesn't have a spine made of steel. This LTA struggle is not easy. But we have chosen to stand and fight it. You can't do that without a spine. Nope.

NAS are you and H both free tomorrow? Or does he have to work leaving you alone? Maybe tomorrow could be something like OTC talked about a while back. Dday being the beginning of a new M instead of any kind of an ending. After I read that I realised that Dday was a good thing in my M b/c without it H would probably still be involved with the whore. So Dday is the day that squashed her. Sure he talked to her a couple of times right after Dday (had to get their stories straight of what they were going to tell) but that day still marks her demise. If it weren't so morbid and would keep ow in your thoughts I would suggest a burial of some sorts for her. B/c that (Dday) is what kills the ow in our M. Hope you can find what will bring you a day of comfort and not one of pain.

FSA


Together we're working through an LTA

If a man says something in the woods and there's not a woman there to hear it, is he still wrong?


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Lost Heart
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As you walk by him today thump him on the back of the head and tell him that was from FSA

I used my imaginary steel mallet!

B/c that (Dday) is what kills the ow in our M.

Good one FSA! Or for the Hos that still cling on, their swan song.


Everyday is a winding road
I get a little bit closer
Everyday is a faded sign
I get a little bit closer to feeling fine

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So Lost
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I'm glad you all had a good lunch. It's wonderful to have supportive people to lean on.

Having a rough time with Vday...and for soem reason I ddn't think I woudl. I cried and cried the other night. Sad I felt like such an idiot that last year I asked him to be my Valentine all cheesy like and hewas asking her the same question adn must have been lauging at me. He didn't say anything, so I know it was true. Make me sick. How do I even say anything to him that day?????

I did get him a card. Pretty generic. I'm just going to sign Love, Kat. Nothing romantic or nice like I usually do. It just makes me so, so sad. The whole thing.

Plus I get to have an EMG of my leg that day (apparently they hurt like hell) and then next week is the neurosurgeon to schedule back surgery. That freaks me out too. He hates responsibility. Is so bad at it. So he will have to be completely responsible for weeks after surgery and I think it will eb such a strain. I am scared to death.


Me: BS
Wh: WS
Dday 10/28/07
LTA with coworker
Attempting Reconciliation
he is remorseful, I am willing, we'll see what happens

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mindisgone
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Default  Posted: 8:11 AM, February 13th (Wednesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

((((so lost)))


too long a sacrifice can make a stone of the heart..

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nas, you were missed. Next time. I'll be sending you prayers and strength through the night. I promise the anticipation is worse than the actual day.

I have to tell you all that I feel so much stronger today and I attribute it to our luncheon yesterday. All the cyberhugs in the world don't do what that one real life hug did for me yesterday. I held it together the whole lunch and then bawled all the way home! Fortunately H was snoring on the couch when I came in and had time to fix my face before he saw me. That would have been tough to explain!

And forgive, all I can say is what a small, small world we live in....

ONce you write it down, it's almost as if you can leave it alone

And zanny, I find that once I write it down and figure out what exactly IS bothering me, then I can talk to H more calmly if it's even necessary.

A lot of times I found in my journaling that if a topic came up over and over, it was something that was blocking my forward progress and I would bring it up at MC or with H. Then I could put it to bed.

LH, what's going on? Did I miss something here? You know I'm having back problems too. And I've put off seeing a neuro because I've got my head in the sand about surgery. Remember, this is NOT the same kind of stress. You two are not in the same place you were then.

Re: the money thing... I am not extravagant by any stretch.. I'm wearing a 5 year old coat. I have 2 pair of dress shoes and my total credit card debt is like $200. I keep my car until the wheels fall off. But compared to H, I'm the spender. If I need something, and we have the money, I get it. Life's too short.

Money was one of the HUGE issues in our M. Until a couple years ago, H NEVER used credit cards.

Anyway, prior to him starting his business, I did all the bills, handled the checking account, etc. When he opened his business account, he didn't give me signature authority. I didn't think anything of it, understood the separateness of the business, etc. He'd write me a check from it each month to cover whatever my check wasn't. Then during the A time, he got really tight. If I needed money, I'd have to ask for it. Usually 3 or 4 times. It came to a point I was taking money from my savings to cover the bills because I hated to beg him. And that's what it felt like. He started demanding an accounting of every penny I was spending. (And this is a huge trigger item for me -- since I know where HIS money was going now).

AFter his divorce threat in 2004, I told him that the checking account issue was a problem for me. He didn't have his business any more and I wanted access to the account. We went to the bank immediately and fixed it. We haven't really fought about money since. Unless he hits a trigger issue.

After Dday, I spent like a mad woman... I had scrimped and sacrificed all those years while he was blowing thousands on hookers? I told him he would never question me on my spending EVER again.

Now we've both become more reasonable about it, but he still squirms a little now and then... right now he's frustrated because I have my severance check, uncashed and he can't wait to get his hands on it.... all in good time.


Dday: 9/12/05
M: 29 yrs( me anyway )
BS(me): 55 And I'm ok with that
FWS: 57- Multiple PAs, LTA 7? yrs.

Try not. Do or do not, there is no try. -- Yoda


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unabletocope
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Default  Posted: 9:04 AM, February 13th (Wednesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((((NAS)))))
(((((Run)))))
(((((HB)))))
(((((SoLost)))))

And congrats to those of you who made it to the red-ribbon lunch. An opportunity to drop the mask we all wear everyday and be authentic must have been priceless, along with real hugs from real people who understand.


me-LTA BW


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Default  Posted: 9:12 AM, February 13th (Wednesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

financial stress...my husband had his A during good $$ times. now the tables are turned and our financial situation is stressed. a couple things make this bump bad i have no happy memories of the past 6 yrs to get me thru the financial bad time of now. plus i'm tired of trying to overcome difficulties, mentally keeping myself off the ledge. i really long to feel some security somewhere.
well tribe i'm off to the gym. i mention the gym to urge you all to come along!! it's good for you!

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Hi All,
No word on the pap yet. I'm going to call tomorrow and raise hell. Bet you're all glad you're not my doc. Anyway, I have tried to read through here but can only really skim the posts so forgive me if I've overlooked something.

I just love hearing about a tribal face to face meeting on here. Look at how we've connected in so many ways in this little group. I have been thinking about how "it serves me" to be a part of this tribe. I put it in quotes because that is the question our MC asked last month. I will be having an IC with her (at her request mind you) next week and I know this will be coming up. I look at what bonds us beside the LTA pain and there are so many things. Just having a group of highly intelligent women who know my WHOLE story makes all the difference in the world. So many of us now have a major piece of our lives that changed our whole lives that we cannot/do not share with our entire circle of friends, family and co-workers. And for those of us who have shared, it's so often misunderstood. I realize that I have come a long way with this and I have healed so much of myself and grown so much from all this, but I have changed forever and there will always be a part of myself that needs to be around people who know this and understand it without me having to explain or lay something on them they're not ready or equipped to hear. Anyhow, I'm just blabbing out loud here and getting ready for next week as I feel I'm going to have to defend myself about this. I'm getting really close to talking to H about moving on from our MC/IC and maybe finding someone new or looking into other things i.e. weekend couples workshops, etc.

So I have been accused of not being fun, being a miser and cheap for believing that we shouldnt be spending money we dont have. And I HATE credit cards!
Lost - if there is anything I know how to do in this world, it's make money and grow money. IMHO I call you SMART and SAVVY and your H irresponsible and impulsive. What's it going to take for you to stop listening to this bullshit altogether and KNOW in your heart of hearts your instincts and thoughts are worthy and right? You have come SOOOOO far in recent months and I want so badly for you to see you are enough, always have been enough and you have the goods to be really successful, resilient and self reliant. I know you're really close to knowing this and we can all see it in how you're responding to your H and the rest of your life. Just want to know I, and the rest of the tribe are here cheering you on! It's so wonderful to watch you come into your self!

(((((To All))))) who are struggling. Know there are better days ahead for you. You WILL find your way out of this.


M 20 years / together 25 yrs
6 yr LTA
Me 47
FWH 48
D-Day Jan. 2006
We're good and getting better every day!

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