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User Topic: Long Term Affairs -IX
numb and scared
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Default  Posted: 6:51 PM, February 16th (Saturday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

What an ass. I'm an ass. ..."

NO, NO......YOU are NOT an ass. He was...and she was...

You are a decent, real woman and mother who has walked the ugliest path a wife can walk....and are still standing up for what you believe.

I'll check in later...have to go now for a few hours.

Run, it's a bitch..but you have people who understand.
Hang in there.


BS
LTA
"Lying is the strongest acknowledgement of the force of truth."
- William Hazlitt
"Let us move on, and step out boldly, though it be into the night, and we can scarcely see the way."
-Charles B. Newcomb



Posts: 3958 | Registered: Feb 2006 | From:
runoverbytruck
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Default  Posted: 6:55 PM, February 16th (Saturday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

NO, NO......YOU are NOT an ass. He was...and she was...

Oh God, numb--don't get me started on what SHE was.

((((((((((((((((FSA))))))))))))))))

Love you.

[This message edited by runoverbytruck at 6:59 PM, February 16th (Saturday)]


LTA BS

If you think the grass is greener on the other side, it's because it's fertilized with bullshit.

The best protection a woman can have is courage.~Elizabeth Cady Stanton


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BorrowTrouble
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Default  Posted: 7:03 PM, February 16th (Saturday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I think you need some help, Run. Or rather he does.

I know we could not have made the changes we have -- both of us, but especially H -- without professional help. And we went through several really crappy IC and MC before we found good ones. But the good ones are so worth it.

I think I've told you before that my H was pretty emotionally void himself. He would admit to having no feelings that he described as negative. It took him a year of fighting with the MC before he would even agree to consider the possibility that there might be a point of having feelings like anger/sadness/jealousy/disappointment. No lie. A year.

But she didn't give up. And when it finally started working it was amazing what a change there was.

Reading the books and the websites helped me, but didn't help US at all. We needed someone to sit with us, see us and how we were, and help us fix what was broken. We stayed in MC almost two full years. But I did finally get a guy I am proud of. And a me I am proud of, too.

Look for a new MC. And a new IC for both of you.


D-day 7/29/04.

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hurtshirley
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Default  Posted: 7:06 PM, February 16th (Saturday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((run)))
(((nas)))
(((fsa)))

All I can offer is hugs and to know that I am thinking of you.


"Forgiveness is the grace by which you enable the other person to get up, and get up with dignity, to begin anew" Desmond Tutu

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Feeling so alone
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Default  Posted: 7:48 PM, February 16th (Saturday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Got a minute here.

Run, I've been finding myself stepping back and taking a look at what's left after LTA. And it has left me somewhat numb. Maybe it's some plain of lethal flatness. I don't know. But I do know that there is absolutely nothing that he can do now that can ever erase what he did then. And I don't particularly like being M to a man that has the ability to have an LTA. Right now I don't want to try and make things better. Either he can or it's not going to get any better. I'm sure that is probably not a good attitude for R, but that is just where I'm at. I'm ready for him to stand up and be a man and "show" me some changes. He is all talk. ILY ILY ILY ILY You're so beautiful You're so beautiful You're wonderful On and on and on. But I also heard all of that during the LTA so it means NADA. He is and has always been a habitual liar. So words come easy to him. And quite frankly I'm tired of hearing his words. I'm tired of doubting him. I'm tired of checking up on him. I'm tired of being who he has made me into. I want to live happy again. I'm sitting back watching and waiting for things to change for the better. It's a good thing that we can't really afford to S or I'm afraid that I would be gone.
Well that's enough of that.

FSA


Together we're working through an LTA

If a man says something in the woods and there's not a woman there to hear it, is he still wrong?


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runoverbytruck
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Default  Posted: 7:58 PM, February 16th (Saturday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'm tired of being who he has made me into.


LTA BS

If you think the grass is greener on the other side, it's because it's fertilized with bullshit.

The best protection a woman can have is courage.~Elizabeth Cady Stanton


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hearbroken
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Default  Posted: 10:10 PM, February 16th (Saturday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Run,

I so hear and feel what you are saying. I have no spectacular words of wisdom, other than to say that I, too, have hit some weird plain of lethal flatness....a nowhere land where I feel in the middle of an empty life. My H changed and changed after dday, and then...it's like he hit his maximum potential. And frankly, I waiver back and forth whether this is good enough, whether I can live with it. My H won't go back to counseling... unless it's MC. Thinks he's already made the big changes in himself. Please...

Anyway, I know for us some of it is the financial stress. Some of his pre-A issues still surface.. the procrastination, him avoiding... like just not applying for jobs instead of facing the rejection. But before the serious financial stress hit we were doing pretty well... so I gotta think it has more to do with what's going on with us now than anything else. Maybe, just maybe this is playing a huge role for you, too. It's so hard to say when all of this is so complicated, isn't it?

Sending you HUGE hugs. Please do something, anything, to treat yourself... emotionally and spiritually and physically. NOW more than ever you need to take care of YOU.

Hugs,
HB


Dday1 8/05 (LTA)
Dday2 4/09 (online EA 2 weeks then confessed)
Dday 3 8/10 ("full disclosure" of more infidelity prior to 2009)

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weepy
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Default  Posted: 11:06 PM, February 16th (Saturday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

((hbh)) Wow what is wrong with these guys? Take care of yourself sweetie. OK?

Some is cuz I'm not really good at confrontations (though I've gotten soooo much better at it since d-day!).

We had the day from hell, I confronted him about everything he said. He finally came right out and said that "You won't take my word for anything, you have to have proof. Why can't you accept that I know what I'm talking about?"

I told him the days of me hanging on every word as gospel, believing everything he said and being the good little Stepford wife are over. He'd lost his credibility with me."

I thought we had it all settled and then went to my brother's for dessert. There I "misquoted" him about a kid issue and he flew off the handle... told everyone he wasn't going to stand for it anymore. He was just going to stop talking all together. He turned and asked my brother what he thought. My brother, gotta love him, says "well, you both kind of said the same thing. Weepy just also voiced what your statement implied."

It's really stupid stuff too. Like we're looking into geting FIOS. Well, when you add up our current phone, internet bill and then add a direct tv or cable package onto it, they work out exactly the same $$ amount. He swears it's going to be a better deal to get them all bundled. Arguing over like a $2 difference.

I too have times still when everything he does irritates the shit outta me. Suddenly he makes noises when he eats... like caveman grunts. Even DD heard it the other night.

I'm tired of being who he has made me into. I want to live happy again. I'm sitting back watching and waiting for things to change for the better. It's a good thing that we can't really afford to S or I'm afraid that I would be gone.

Yep. And I'm especially tired of being patient and reasonable.


Dday: 9/12/05
M: 29 yrs( me anyway )
BS(me): 55 And I'm ok with that
FWS: 57- Multiple PAs, LTA 7? yrs.

Try not. Do or do not, there is no try. -- Yoda


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Lost Heart
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Default  Posted: 2:51 AM, February 17th (Sunday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

((((((ROBT))))))

You are not an ass, or any kind of stupid, or any of the other bad words you said.
And you know that.
( Besides we do have a membership policy for the Tribe, ya know? )

I dont know what to say Run. Everything else you said is true. Its so insulting that they make a few changes, and think that thats it, work done.
After EVERYTHING that they have did/do??!!

What you said about having hope rang so true. Yet I am now running out of hope. He will do one thing positive, and I can no longer live on that till the next meltdown.

Actions, consistent actions is what I want.I want him to show his dedication to this family by actively seeking and mapping out his own path.

I told my IC that I am fearing that to stay with H will be too high a cost for me, that as long as I am with him as he is, that I will always be this person that I dont want to be.
I know I can be a much better woman. I see glimpses of that, esp with the Tribe's encouragement!
BUT a discussion with him, and I am back to being this wailing, angry, screaming, pathetic,frustrated, angry angry bitch.
And thats how he sees me, and has seen me thoughout the M, except substitute wailing and angry with controlling and mean.

So no answers Run. Just lots of understanding.

Btw, I told him yesterday I want to Vday gifts (see how pathetic I am). I told him that one of them would be that I want him to read and post here for 6 months!



Everyday is a winding road
I get a little bit closer
Everyday is a faded sign
I get a little bit closer to feeling fine

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Lost Heart
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Default  Posted: 3:12 AM, February 17th (Sunday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((((((FSA))))))

I am sorry you are on downer as well. Looking at the landscape after the dust has cleared up, sobers us fast, doesnt it?

It makes me want to dig out a hole, climb in, and hide out for a year or 2.

But we cant do that. We soldier on. And you will too FSA.

Heres hoping the freekin rollercoaster starts chugging upwards soon for those of us struggling this week.

****
Mig, how are you?

((((HBH))))


Everyday is a winding road
I get a little bit closer
Everyday is a faded sign
I get a little bit closer to feeling fine

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Feeling so alone
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Default  Posted: 7:27 AM, February 17th (Sunday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Heres hoping the freekin rollercoaster starts chugging upwards soon for those of us struggling this week.
For me, I don't think it's so much the roller coaster as it is me looking at my true H. After Dday I struggled and grasped at everything I could to hang onto this R. But for some reason now, I'm able to stand back and look, and I don't like what I see. Like Run said, everything he does irritates me. And the noises when he eats, I thought mine was the only one that did that. Yuck!!! I'm able to look and see that aside from the LTA he still hasn't been much of a H. Combine that with the LTA, and what do I have???? I guess I just don't feel a whole lot of love for him right now. And I'm having a hard time telling him ILY. He says it to me and then I just kind of stare off into space while he is waiting for an answer. But I can't bring myself to say what I'm not feeling. A couple of nights ago H told me ILY and my DS was standing there. When I did not answer my DS said "mom did you hear dad" so I then told him ILY, but it was for my DS's benefit. And I feel awful about myself b/c of this. I want to find that person who can smile and be happy in this M. The one that can trust and go on about her life not worrying what her H is doing. But she just doesn't exist anymore. He keeps telling me that he is going to show me what a good H he can be. He tells me that he is no dumba** and that he has learned from his mistakes. I in turn tell him that I also am no dumba** and I too have learned. I have learned to never trust anyone. I have learned to not take things for what they seem to be. I have learned that words are just words, it's the actions that tell the true person. I have learned that for almost 22 years I have been nothing more than a baby maker and a home maker that also brings in a paycheck. I have learned that I didn't matter to him for all those years. Blah blah blah.

FSA


Together we're working through an LTA

If a man says something in the woods and there's not a woman there to hear it, is he still wrong?


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heftysmurf
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Default  Posted: 9:12 AM, February 17th (Sunday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((LTA Tribe)))

This looks like a bad week for all.

I am trying my hardest to get on the upswing.

This hits so hard FSA-

I want to find that person who can smile and be happy in this M.

I want that oh so much too.

Wishing everyone a better day today.


BH-Me- 34 WW-Her- 29
D-Day- 11-04-07
M 6 years Together 12 years
2 YR DD WOW I love her!
LTA 6 YEARS - stolen time
Limbo. Praying for DD and our M.
In ridiculous pain. Amazed I can stand.

Posts: 471 | Registered: Nov 2007 | From: New York
OneToughCowgirl
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Default  Posted: 10:30 AM, February 17th (Sunday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

For all of you who are struggling this week I want to share this story with you. When I first heard this story it was at a retreat in Hawaii and we actually inventoried our stones and turned the bowl to an eerie, yet powerful Hawaiian chant. I hope you like it....

THE BOWL OF LIGHT

I'm going to be a first-time grandmother in August. I'm ecstatic about having my first grandchild. One of the first things I will shared with my grandson or granddaughter is the "Bowl of Light" story that I learned when I was an alakai, advanced student, of Ho'opono Pono in Hawaii. My kumu, teacher, said, Pali Jae Lee and Koko Willis' book Tales From the Night Rainbow is an excellent authentic source for this story and so many others.

In ancient times, in Hawaii and throughout the world, each child born is said to have a Bowl of Perfect Light. If the child is taught to respect and love his or her light, the child grows in strength and health and can swim with the sharks, fly with the birds, and know and understand all things.

If however, the child gets into pilikia(trouble) with thoughts of fear, worry, doubt, judgment, anger, resentment, envy, or jealousy, he or she drops a stone into the Bowl of Light. Then, some of the light goes out because light and stone cannot occupy the same space.

If the child continues to get stones in the bowl, the light will eventually go out, and the child becomes a stone. Just like a stone, the child can no longer grow nor is capable of movement. However, as soon as the child tires of being a stone, all that is needed is to do kalana (forgive) this aspect of himself, and turn the bowl upside down to let the stones fall out. All the light can then shine again and grow even brighter than before.

This was the way the ancient Hawaiian kupuna (grandparents and elders) took care of their mo'opuna (grandchildren). They would give them a bowl each morning, and then observe through the day how many stones were in the bowl. At the end of the day they would call their grandchildren to their sides and look at how many stones were in the bowl. If it had been a good day, just one or two stones in the bowl, the child was told to simply turn the bowl over. Yet, if the bowl were filled with stones, then in addition to turning the bowl over, the child would be told to go into the ocean and wash away all the thoughts from the day.

I will tell my beloved grandchild this. Many days I have found I need to change, make a better choice in the moment, so I've picked up my bowl, turned it upside down, and let the stones roll out. I have started over again so the Perfect Light I am can shine even brighter.


M 20 years / together 25 yrs
6 yr LTA
Me 47
FWH 48
D-Day Jan. 2006
We're good and getting better every day!

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Lost Heart
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Default  Posted: 10:31 AM, February 17th (Sunday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'm able to look and see that aside from the LTA he still hasn't been much of a H. Combine that with the LTA, and what do I have????

FSA, what changes would H have to make to be the man worthy to be called Mr FSA?

What if he is willing to make those changes (not perfect but pretty good), would it make a difference to how you feel? Or is this really a done dealbreaker for you?

I have learned to never trust anyone. I have learned to not take things for what they seem to be. I have learned that words are just words, it's the actions that tell the true person. I have learned that for almost 22 years I have been nothing more than a baby maker and a home maker that also brings in a paycheck. I have learned that I didn't matter to him for all those years. Blah blah blah.

((((FSA))))

****
HEfty

I am trying my hardest to get on the upswing.

Sometimes its good not to force your feelings. If you are sad, be sad. If you are angry, be angry. Its when we bottle those feelings and try to squash them, and then force ourselves to feel something that we dont, that we end up worse than before.

I am not saying dont be optimistic. Just be real too. Manage your expectations of you and your W to fit in with where you both are.


Everyday is a winding road
I get a little bit closer
Everyday is a faded sign
I get a little bit closer to feeling fine

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heftysmurf
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Default  Posted: 11:32 AM, February 17th (Sunday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thanks for the advice. We have actually had some good momments the last few days and pray for many more. I believe we have a chance to have a real marriage. I am willing to step up and eat this sh*t sandwich if my wife takes a few bites and also betters herself. That is really what I am looking for from her. To work on herself mentally and confront the ugly self she is and become the beutiful person she can become. She has the potential I see it. I hope she does too.

Have a great Sunday and hugs to all.

(((LTA Tribe)))


BH-Me- 34 WW-Her- 29
D-Day- 11-04-07
M 6 years Together 12 years
2 YR DD WOW I love her!
LTA 6 YEARS - stolen time
Limbo. Praying for DD and our M.
In ridiculous pain. Amazed I can stand.

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weepy
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Default  Posted: 12:58 PM, February 17th (Sunday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

So we wake up at 5 am this morning to pee (now isn't that just glamorous!)

and I say to him "I didn't like us much yesterday. I'm sorry for the way I talked to you.... some of the times." He said "Ok". Then I said "Now you're supposed to say you're sorry for how you talked to me too." "Oh, will that help?" he says.

So I say, if you apologize sincerely, like I did, I vote to pretend yesterday never happened. So he said he was sorry for fighting with me all day. And without a "BUT you were annoying me, or it was your fault or you made me angry".

So we made love and went back to sleep.

10 minutes ago we were speaking different languages again.... arguing over tax assessments and how they're computed. WTF? And he says "you're doing it again...." TG his friend arrived and took him away.

I'm going to go sit an read in peace and quiet for a while....


Dday: 9/12/05
M: 29 yrs( me anyway )
BS(me): 55 And I'm ok with that
FWS: 57- Multiple PAs, LTA 7? yrs.

Try not. Do or do not, there is no try. -- Yoda


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Just catching up on the posts. Busy, busy weekend both for me and for this thread! FWHs school/uni friends came for mega curry dinner Saturday, and stayed over and I had a weekend Reiki course. Time to find a quick bite for #4son now and then something for us (left over curry??). Up to end of page28, but no time for more right now.

LostH. I think youre right, the plain of lethal flatness is a perfect description. Still feel it now. Nothing to worry about, right?

Steel, Im not alone in this experience. Thanks.

HBH, Bad, bad time hon. What to say - same as the others. Youre in my thoughts until I catch up with the rest tomorrow.

Mum, So well done! You must be so pleased with the result. Hopefully, a little mum to be born at the end of the year. How lovely! I hope your H realises what a treasure you are.

Ok. Rest of the posts mid-am tomorrow. Hugs to everyone. I couldnt go through this sh*t without you.


D-Day: 30 July 2006 LTA: 5yrs
Me, BS, 56 y/o Him, WS, 57 y/o
MOW, pathetic ex-fiancee.
3 grown boys and one 18 y/o
I don't consider myself married anymore.
There are some words once spoken split the world in two. Before you say them and after.

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Default  Posted: 5:48 PM, February 17th (Sunday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

While I'm not experiencing that lethal flatness it is one of the things that I fear the most. I am thinking that I at least need to rebuild instead of reconcile and to do that requires a physical declaration of death of the M.

LTA for WH was/is 9 years by his admission longer by the discovery of OWH. My WS still can't tell the truth and won't say anything unless in counseling setting but also won't hurry for me to jion in counseling-both of us in IC. So...I filed for divorce to square away the asset issue since everything was jointly owned and to get a full discovery since he's still in the lying fog.

If after the D we want to rebuild great but it will have to be after the great equalizer of D.

Now, perhaps I should have posted on divorced or separated but I'm curious to know if you think that this is a way to determine the truth and make sure both parties are ready willing and able to commit to R after LTA without the questions and doubt and lethal flatness.


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I don't have any answers but I to wonder if D would be better? I wonder if we did D if that would help me deal with this whole thing and then I could start from a fresh point of view. I have been upset, angry at words that he has said to me. I asked him once is sex with her was better and he admitted that yes it was better due to the fact that sometimes it would hurt me and he did not get enjoyment out of seeing me in pain WTF!! I told him that I made love to him yes it was painful but I did it to show how much I loved him and that is what you do for the person you love!! He now says that as I did it out of love for him nothing comes close to that. I just can't seem to get past this, I asked him how he could live with himself saying this to the women he loves more then anything, he replied that he was sorry he said it and once he knew what I did for him it change everything.

I love this guy so much but cannot seem to get over his A. I find myself thinking more and more of being by myself just me and the kids. I seem to think I'm getting past this and then WHAM! it all comes back to me. We did the MC thing last week, it was good to say somethings to him, but I still am so angry. Going to IC on Wednesday. Saturday was hard marked 1 year anniversary that they last slept together. DDay is coming up soon.

We had another huge fight on Friday night and I said I was going for the weekend to get away from it all. He said that he would go but would not be back he would find his own place. I asked him why was it so hard for him to give me time, after all his A was 2 yrs why is he expecting me to just move on why can he not say 'OK I f**ked up big time for 2 yrs, I will give you that time to sort through your emotions'. He just looked at me with a blank look on his face.

I keep going from one to the other. God I hate this, I just want to be with someone I can trust again and not have the awful memories of what he did and said. Does that day ever come??


Monty Python, "It isn't the despair. I can handle the despair. It's the hope that's killing me."


DDay #1: 04 March 07
DDay #2: 10 May 2007 revealed all (I hope)

profile has all the sordid details...


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numb and scared
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....but I'm curious to know if you think that this is a way to determine the truth and make sure both parties are ready willing and able to commit to R after LTA without the questions and doubt and lethal flatness.


Very challenging question, sham.
I don't have the answers..but certainly am pondering the question.

There is no doubt that most WS will default to minimizing, if not outright omitting facts about the LTA.
Most BS suffer LTA..."Long Term Affects"....from this behavior.
The lethal plane of flatness is the best description of what the result of this withholding can be for the BS..

We could spend another 300 pages on this thread about "why" WS do that..but it ultimately leads to the same place. People who cheat and lie and betray "long term" do not want to disclose it...not all of it, anyway.

Call it "chicken shit" syndrome (acute cowardice), call it still pathetically needing/wanting to preserve a piece of the "secret" life, or call it an appalling show of belligerence and arrogance.....
It all is P/A behavior at its worst.

And...when all is said and done..and the checks have been written [and written and written] to the ICs and the MCs and the pharmacies....does a BS of a LTA still have to "settle" for the WS's version of events, if they know there are still lies and/or ommissions???
Events lied about that have forever changed the BS lives.

Is there now a new reality? A reality that includes allowing half truths and diluted truths to stand in place for the whole truth.?

Sham, I guess for some BS, D may be the only solution to, perhaps, finally hearing the truth. And even that has no guarantees.

Hugs to you in going forward with what your heart dictates.

[This message edited by numb and scared at 9:23 PM, February 17th (Sunday)]


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- William Hazlitt
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