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User Topic: Long Term Affaris - X
BorrowTrouble
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Default  Posted: 6:12 PM, March 13th (Thursday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Boy, an awesome few pages of posts. Thank you, especially, FNF for reminding me not to base my idea of myself on other people's standards.

Looks have always been an issue for me. I am not a physically attractive person. For some reason, it seems like I've always hung with people much more attractive than myself. It's always been a nagging hurt, even though I know it shouldn't be.

I had the interesting experience of being at a spiritual seminar last year where one of the exercises was to "push back" your inner critic. Each of the 50 or so participants had to share a phrase that our judge hits us with on a regular basis. Mine was: You are not good enough. My H's was: You are a mistake.

One of the other women in the class is an absolute gorgeous woman in her early sixties, I would say. She is elegant and going by her clothing and jewelry, wealthy. Her phrase was: You are ugly in all the ways that matter.

It was kind of an eye-opening moment for me.

*************


OTC, I hope you have a lovely birthday. Your posts always touch something important in me. Thank you for being here.


D-day 7/29/04.

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25wimsey
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Default  Posted: 6:28 PM, March 13th (Thursday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Happy birthday OTC!!!

I would also say don't bother trying to get info from OW. Nothing she can say will make sense and it will probably be either lies or self-delusion. OW in my case once tried to talk to me and tell me how hard it was for her to feel "constrained" in being able to talk to my H about OC--she felt all along that they were right together, thought I should have been able to "intuit" something like their adultery was going on, and now thinks that since she's said she won't sleep with him any more, I should agree to their playing happy family with the OC. As I said, delusional.
We won't be doing that again!!

Talking to OW just won't compute--their outlook is soooo incredibly selfish and distorted compared to ours, it doesn't make any difference what they say. It just opens the door to more grief...

I have to laugh in a way--OW is so incredibly angry at me--feels that it's all my "fault" she and H aren't together, gives me much more control that I deserve!! H chose not to go along with the fantasy R, to stay with his marriage and family--I couldn't force him to make that decision--only thing I could do was make the decision to stay in the M with him, to allow him to rebuild with me--and for that I'm the wicked witch of the west.

UKgirl, OW in my case is like yours somewhat, educated, intelligent, professional, not a low-life at all, except in her moral code of course--would be so much easier in a way not to have someone who is comparable or competitive--I guess our mantras will truly have to be that we're enough--haven't succeeded in believing that, but I do, now, do a lot of stuff for myself--so ditto numbandscared's post.

Our lives are going along pretty well, sexual slumps occur but it always comes back--mostly related to how bad H is feeling and/or how incredibly busy he is with work-- day to day is fine, even fun--inside I still think of the infidelity every day, at least for some of the time--and I'm starting to come to terms with the fact that inside I will always feel unloved in some way. Before I found out about the LTA, I really felt cared for and special and all that, and not in a fantasy way, just a long-term marriage sort of way. Now that's all changed, and I think that striving to feel that again is just butting my head against a wall--I'd rather look at whatever positive feelings I get from H and our R, and not worry about total healing in my foundation.

Someone on another thread posted about staying in a M for many reasons, liking the lifestyle, companionship, sex, financial stability, ease of being with the family--that all sounds good to me and if I get some feeling that H really does love me in whatever way he can, and is committed to his marriage (as in fidelity especially), that will be enough for this almost 60 year old. Selfish? Maybe, but I prefer realistic.

Hugs to all.


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numb and scared
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Default  Posted: 6:42 PM, March 13th (Thursday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Looks have always been an issue for me.

BT,

Did you ever meet someone who didn't fit the textbook of "good looks" and then hear them speak and get to see their mind and heart and all of a sudden, they are transformed into a beauty beyond even what they would recognize?

That's what YOU do when you write and speak....


BS
LTA
"Lying is the strongest acknowledgement of the force of truth."
- William Hazlitt
"Let us move on, and step out boldly, though it be into the night, and we can scarcely see the way."
-Charles B. Newcomb



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Default  Posted: 6:57 PM, March 13th (Thursday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hear, hear. Numb and Scared. I second that.


Me (BS): 38
Him (WS): 38
3 children, d 6 s 4 s 1yr
D day #1 03/16/07 8 mth ea
D day #2 07/13/07 turned into 7 year long term affair, pa/ea 08/18/07 Got final info - is that it?

Posts: 284 | Registered: Apr 2007 | From: UK
hurtshirley
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Default  Posted: 7:49 PM, March 13th (Thursday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Okay, crap, I just spent 20 minutes typing a heartfelt reponse and my laptop decided to "blink" and I lost it!!!!

<breathe>

Here is the short and dirty...


Thank you all for your responses on the OW...I will not contact...you are all right...obviously she is fucked up and who knows why she did it or what she was thinking but I will never understand....lots of great advice that I copied and quoted and it is gone. BUT, thank you again for your response.

BT - as far as "looks". What most people find attractive, even beautiful, is intelligence, kindness, empathy and love. You have an abundance of all of the above. You are a bright light in the darkness. I am sure that the people you hung with that you believed to be more attractive would think how graced and lucky they were to have you with them. I know I do.

UTC - skipped your post earlier as it is a song and songs are a trigger but I LOVE that song. I heard it a couple of years ago before the kids did and thought how amazing it was. Thanks for bringing one song back to the forefront of my mind that doesn't hurt.

UKgirl - burning must have been so cathartic. Lost H suggested the poems next. How about a LTA Tribe reunion at Stonehenge and we light the night on fire! We could drive REAAAALLLy fast to get there.


"Forgiveness is the grace by which you enable the other person to get up, and get up with dignity, to begin anew" Desmond Tutu

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Default  Posted: 8:00 PM, March 13th (Thursday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I have been crazy busy at work lately so I haven't posted on this forum in while. I am following all of your stories that are all so similar to mine and I just really wonder if we can ever really heal enough to stay in the M even if WH becomes the perfect H. With serial and LTAs I'm not sure if it can ever be enough. I think all of were great wives who were all collateral damage. Theses kind of men are cake eaters and even though my H feels great remorse most of the time and we are getting along. I feel like I have detached from a deep connection which is so important in a marriage.

Bottom line is it worth it after your H was willing to betray you for years and with more than one woman?
Or will I just be settling for the second half of my life?


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BorrowTrouble
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Default  Posted: 8:04 PM, March 13th (Thursday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Numb, thank you sister. That put a tear in my eye and a lump in my throat. And you, too, Mum and Shirley.

One of the reasons I choose journalism as a first career was that for the most part people had to judge me on my words without knowing what I looked like. It's also one of the reasons I feel so comfortable on the internet.

Not that I'm horrible looking, I'm not. Just plain, as they would say in a Victorian novel. It's always bothered me because so many people simply dismiss you if you are not attractive. Literally, they just pretend you are not there. You never get the chance to show them who you are because they don't care to know. They have already written you off.

My H and I are what LadyV calls "an interfacial couple." He is quite handsome, well-built and overall the kind of man women want to talk to. Oddly, that doesn't bother me anymore. It used to, but I now think I am just very comfortable with who I am.


Shirley, I have never had the opportunity to talk to the OW. If I had had any type of relationship with her at all I think I would have found it impossible not to talk to her. I probably would have regretted it later, as our wiser tribe members say, but I think I would have done it anyway.


D-day 7/29/04.

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forgivenotforget
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Default  Posted: 9:22 PM, March 13th (Thursday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

BT - your post reminded me of my college days. One of the most exciting aspects of that period of my life was meeting some of the most intelligent, exciting people who stimulated a love of learning I never felt while in high school. One professor in particular was truly awesome. I remember sitting in his class feeling totally mesmorized by his lectures. Often I realized that I was staring at him in total awe almost in a trance-like state when I would listen to him. I would catch myself and be embarrassed and hope he didn't see me. And I hated moving onto my next class. His looks, well, average - tall, lanky, bordering on geeky - did I care - No Way! It was an honor to participate in his class. If I had met him and we were both single you can bet I would have been after his ass . Several years later he published a book. It was about his childhood with a totally demented father and I was overwhelmed with compassion for him and even more amazed at his strength and ability to survive growing up in an environment like that. I had the strongest urge to stop by his office and ask him to sign my copy but I thought I might make a fool of myself. I do believe I had a bit of a crush on him.
So my point in all of this is that no matter how we look on the outside, it takes just the smallest bit of time to get beyond the initial impression and within a short period of time we are looking and listening to the whole person and this is what determines our desire to be their friend, confident, lover, etc.
I remember once saying to my H, if I could come back as either beautiful or brilliant, I'd choose to be brilliant.
You have a real gift and you have given every one of us very wise advice. You are caring, supportive, tough when you need to be, vulnerable, and smart as hell. There is not one of us on this site who hasn't recognized that. That is what we see. That is the you we all care for and admire. That is what makes you beautiful to us.


D-day - 12/23/05 LTA - 8 years.
"Love's a matter of trust and I just want to believe in us." M McBride

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forgivenotforget
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Default  Posted: 9:35 PM, March 13th (Thursday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

HS - I am so glad to hear that you are not going to contact the OW. I couldn't agree more with everyone who said that you could never believe anything she would have to tell you. They have told themselves lies for the duration of their A's - how can we ever expect to hear truth from them?
I told my H on d-day to tell the OW that she was not to ever try to contact me. As far as I was concerned, she was dead to me from the moment of discovery.
My H did tell me something that was said which does to this day infuriate me. He said that they had both agreed that I couldn't be so stupid as to not know that they were having an A. I must have known and was ok with it. I told him the most stupid thing that I did was to trust in him and to believe that she was my friend. Other than that, believing the best of people I love was my greatest weakness.
So, to agree with others, these OW say things that hurt, anger and haunt us for years. We have enough of that after d-day. Why invite them to add to our pain?


D-day - 12/23/05 LTA - 8 years.
"Love's a matter of trust and I just want to believe in us." M McBride

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Default  Posted: 9:40 PM, March 13th (Thursday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

What most people find attractive, even beautiful, is intelligence, kindness, empathy and love.

Whole people, healthy people, people with an ounce of morality and ethics believe this.

BT, I always pictured you as strong, (and you're saying sturdy), charismatic, with flashing intelligent eyes and such a quick wit. You're someone I'd love to sit and talk philosophy and the future of mankind with. (I know ending with a prep)

H and I too are one of those couples. He is magnetic. I am and always have been in his shadow.


Dday: 9/12/05
M: 29 yrs( me anyway )
BS(me): 55 And I'm ok with that
FWS: 57- Multiple PAs, LTA 7? yrs.

Try not. Do or do not, there is no try. -- Yoda


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forgivenotforget
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Default  Posted: 9:50 PM, March 13th (Thursday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

He is magnetic. I am and always have been in his shadow.

For the record Weepy, let me just say this - I'd choose you for a friend any day over Mr. Weepy (even if he is still wearing the same size jeans as he did in high school).


D-day - 12/23/05 LTA - 8 years.
"Love's a matter of trust and I just want to believe in us." M McBride

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weepy
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Default  Posted: 9:56 PM, March 13th (Thursday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

fnf, if you met him with no background on him, he'd have you eating out of his hand in 15 minutes.

He'd never be your friend because he doesn't understand that word, but you'd love him.


Dday: 9/12/05
M: 29 yrs( me anyway )
BS(me): 55 And I'm ok with that
FWS: 57- Multiple PAs, LTA 7? yrs.

Try not. Do or do not, there is no try. -- Yoda


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runoverbytruck
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Default  Posted: 10:41 PM, March 13th (Thursday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

My...my...my! I do declare...there is some philosophying goin' on in here! (Said with a severe suthun' twang.)

I am enough
I've always been enough
I'll always be enough.

For us to survive an LTA, we must heal ourselves and believe that we are beautiful, strong, worthy and enough to be in a loving, respectful, healthy faithful and satisfying relationship.

Our "job" is not to heal our WS, no matter what their affliction is.We can support them but we cant be their mule. We can listen to them but we cant cure them.

we owe that "better" version of self to our children, as well as ourselves.

** Not allowing "anyone's" past or present to deplete or define you.**

I have always told my H and our MC that if I leave, it will not be to find someone else. If I leave, it is because I am ready to be on my own.

When we choose our friends, we don't go out and look for people that are beautiful in looks... we choose people that share common likes, or those that get us, or touch our hearts in some way.

Some LTA tribe unite... we are all beautiful in our own way. Beautiful, unique, strong, worthy and more than enough!!!

WOW!

It is so refreshing and inspiring to read these kinds of comments. Look at everyone! It's so empowering!!! AWESOME! I LOVE IT!!! Thank you! We SO need more of this stuff!

You are ugly in all the ways that matter.

So very, very true. Ask any OW.

Not that I'm horrible looking, I'm not. Just plain, as they would say in a Victorian novel.

BT, you are such a kind, compassionate, loving, insightful and inspiring friend. You couldn't be "plain" if you tried.

Did you ever meet someone who didn't fit the textbook of "good looks" and then hear them speak and get to see their mind and heart and all of a sudden, they are transformed into a beauty beyond even what they would recognize?

So my point in all of this is that no matter how we look on the outside, it takes just the smallest bit of time to get beyond the initial impression and within a short period of time we are looking and listening to the whole person and this is what determines our desire to be their friend, confident, lover, etc.

Yup! Looks only get a person so far.

On the flip side, I know you all know someone who is gorgeous, and you don't want a thing to do with them because of who they are beyond the looks. The "ugly" seeps out.

I am thinking about calling the OW of the last LTA (7 years) to ask her why? Why did she spend 7 years fucking a married man while his loving wife was having his youngest two children?

Shirley, as numb said: Why.....Because she could. I couldn't have said it any better than that. Why does anyone do anything?

She needed the ego stroke that comes when she is delusional enough to think a man will sacrifice everything to be with her. Only he doesn't leave, and she's back to nothing. Having nothing and being nothing.

We will never understand this, Shirl. We shouldn't even try. It only frustrates us more and keeps our minds focused on something (the "Nothing") that doesn't matter. We are not of this "kind". We will never "get it", no matter what they say or how they answer our questions. And besides...it just doesn't matter. What matters is you. How are you going to get yourself better?

Keep up the inspirations, ladies! These posts were awesome!

[This message edited by runoverbytruck at 11:04 PM, March 13th (Thursday)]


LTA BS

If you think the grass is greener on the other side, it's because it's fertilized with bullshit.

The best protection a woman can have is courage.~Elizabeth Cady Stanton


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unabletocope
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Default  Posted: 11:07 PM, March 13th (Thursday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

if you met him with no background on him, he'd have you eating out of his hand in 15 minutes.
He'd never be your friend because he doesn't understand that word, but you'd love him.

OMG- You could be talking about my WH. He's definitely not classically handsome, but he's cute and has the devil's own twinkle in his eyes and grin. He's very, very charismatic and charms everyone. Ugh....

BT- you are nothing but beautiful in my eyes, and I've never seen you. You are the REAL thing, hun. You are REAL. That's something these OW or OM will never be.

HS-

I am thinking about calling the OW of the last LTA (7 years) to ask her why? Why did she spend 7 years fucking a married man while his loving wife was having his youngest two children?
Shirley, as numb said: Why.....Because she could. I couldn't have said it any better than that. Why does anyone do anything?

She needed the ego stroke that comes when she is delusional enough to think a man will sacrifice everything to be with her. Only he doesn't leave, and she's back to nothing. Having nothing and being nothing.

Word, Run. And we can't fathom this because we would never, ever accept it. We aren't that low. I think that is one of the hardest issues to comprehend because we can't think like the OW.

One professor in particular was truly awesome. I remember sitting in his class feeling totally mesmorized by his lectures. Often I realized that I was staring at him in total awe almost in a trance-like state when I would listen to him. I would catch myself and be embarrassed and hope he didn't see me. And I hated moving onto my next class. His looks, well, average - tall, lanky, bordering on geeky - did I care - No Way! It was an honor to participate in his class. If I had met him and we were both single you can bet I would have been after his ass


Change this to a teacher I worked with 4 years ago when I was pregnant with my last dd, and wow! He had an intelligent mind that I could completely relate to and it was, quite frankly, attractive to me, even though he was definitely not conventionally attractive to others. Hmmmm.....a potential slippery slope.......and yet I avoided it while my WH dived into his at the same time.


We all need to realize just how amazing and beautiful and wonderful we all are just for remaining upright in the face of a LTA!!!!


me-LTA BW


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Default  Posted: 4:36 AM, March 14th (Friday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

UKgirl - burning must have been so cathartic. Lost H suggested the poems next. How about a LTA Tribe reunion at Stonehenge and we light the night on fire! We could drive REAAAALLLy fast to get there.

YAY!! Dancing round the campfire!! Anyone else got “stuff” to burn?

Weepy,

H and I too are one of those couples. He is magnetic. I am and always have been in his shadow.

Same here.

Shirley, dear woman. Don’t. Please. What good did it do me? But I met her to get her out of our lives. She wasn’t going to go otherwise.

Read the posts and caught up. Good morning to you all and I’m doing a Road Runner now, off out for the day. Beep, beep!!

Oh and FWH got a text from OW this morning. Looks like her H has told her about the letter that I sent LAST DECEMBER!!! She’s not happy. Do I feel sorry for her? NO! In fact I’m laughing. Ha,ha,ha!

I am enough
I've always been enough
I'll always be enough.

And I'm beautiful in every way.


D-Day: 30 July 2006 LTA: 5yrs
Me, BS, 56 y/o Him, WS, 57 y/o
MOW, pathetic ex-fiancee.
3 grown boys and one 18 y/o
I don't consider myself married anymore.
There are some words once spoken split the world in two. Before you say them and after.

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Good morning all.

Wow, yesterday was an eventful day here, huh? Guess the steam room has been helping us get some of the toxins out.

***

LH, has H had an adverse reaction to what you've written?

I dont know, Mum. He hasnt said anything.And his behaviour is no diferent either.
I suspect he will use it as ammunition, but I will see.

***

Weepy.....but I find myself wanting to reach out and take your hand and lead you gently and lovingly in another direction. Leave him to his mess Weepy please try and look at yourself and realise what a worthy individual you are and that what he did was not about what he did or didn't have at home, it was about him and still is

Well said Mum.Thats how I am feeling about you too Weepy. I want to give you a big hug and tell you that you are beautiful, strong, worthy and enough. I know you only through cyberspace, and I can see that.

***
HEfty

I need to keep working on me and make me the best I can for everyone: me, DD, and my wife. I just hope it matters to her. I have been trying

Thats not what I meant.You are enough and worthy and beautiful and strong already too. When you work on you, it shouldnt figure in whether it matters to WW or not. Its not about being a better H, but a more fulfilled man. Help me out someone...what am I trying to say to Hefty???

***

Bottom line is it worth it after your H was willing to betray you for years and with more than one woman?
Or will I just be settling for the second half of my life?

Hope, your dday was 4 years ago.IMHO, if you are still asking those questions, then something didnt go accomplished in R since.
Have you and H being actively engaged in R since?
By that I mean, all the work that we talk about here, the IC for both, MC, reconnecting on new planes, developing a better appreciation of each other, etc.
Or has it been onesided?

Maybe that lack of reconnection can be addressed now. If you are feeling it, I bet he is too.Have you spoken about this?

***
BT, I hope you know how much we all honour and admire you (and some of us are so in awe we hestitate to even address you directly ).
You will always be Susan Sarandon to me.

Have a good day everyone!


Everyday is a winding road
I get a little bit closer
Everyday is a faded sign
I get a little bit closer to feeling fine

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Belated Happy Birthday OTC, hope you had a great day celebrating YOU. Sorry I'm late but I just caught up on yesterday's posts.

I've been awake for a couple of hours. Awoke for no reason but sleep evades me. My 'holiday' is almost half over. I am sad to say that I've brought all my LTA baggage with me this trip (left most of it home last time). I sneak time to read and erase the history so my family won't know.

Thanks LTA tribe for being here in moments of darkness and of light.


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I'm going to say something here and I hope all of my sisters will understand. Like we can't imagine the pain of a BS dealing with a ONS years later, or someone who's H had an internet affair, no one can understand the degradation, the humiliation of finding out your H was having sex with prostitutes and on top of that finding out that he doesn't think it was that bad a thing to do.

Even my IC says "so what, it was just a fuck".

I just can't deal with this on top of the LTA. If some 30 year old hooker walked into our bedroom he'd spring a boner so fast it would make your head spin. If I gave him back the porn he'd be at it in record time.

I don't know if I can do this any more. And I"m just now grieving possibly the end of my marriage.

For 2 years I held out hope, listened to everyone tell me how he was trying in little ways. Well, one card, hand holding on the couch and kisses on the forehead just aren't enough.

I don't have enough time left to wait for him to find out he may never recover from this compulsion, addiction, his "issues" because he is so good at hiding what he feels, thinks even from himself.

SO Happy Birthday Mr. Weepy, I done want you out of my life, but I need you to be.


Dday: 9/12/05
M: 29 yrs( me anyway )
BS(me): 55 And I'm ok with that
FWS: 57- Multiple PAs, LTA 7? yrs.

Try not. Do or do not, there is no try. -- Yoda


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((((((((Weepy))))))))


You are right. Unless we have walked in them ourselves, noone can imagine what its like for you.

I have been rooting for you (not your M or your H)from the time I first joined here.Whether you know it or not, you helped me out in General and then later in R, and now here.

I have seen you get your hopes up, then dashed, then scrape yourself off the floor and start again.

My heart has ached when I read what your H said or didnt say, did or didnt do, not for any other reason, but I saw how hard you were trying to figure out why, what didnt you do right, what can you improve next time.And I would say, "Oh no Mr Weepy".
My heart smiled when you both had your happy moments, no matter how quirky, and you positively radiated through the screen, and I would go, "Yes Mr Weepy!Thank you for making Weepy happy for that time."

I have seen you so soul broken, that you even contemplated doing something that went against your own code (the reunion). Yet, you held on and came back to the battle ground.

If you feel that you have had enough, that you dont have an atom left to do this anymore, I will stand with you Weepy. You earned your stripes eons ago.

And if you change your mind, I will still stand by you.

(((((Weepy))))))


Everyday is a winding road
I get a little bit closer
Everyday is a faded sign
I get a little bit closer to feeling fine

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(((LH))) thank you.


Dday: 9/12/05
M: 29 yrs( me anyway )
BS(me): 55 And I'm ok with that
FWS: 57- Multiple PAs, LTA 7? yrs.

Try not. Do or do not, there is no try. -- Yoda


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