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User Topic: Long Term Affaris - X
unabletocope
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Default  Posted: 9:09 AM, March 14th (Friday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

((((((((((Weepy))))))))))


me-LTA BW


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raincloud
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Default  Posted: 9:30 AM, March 14th (Friday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Happy late b-day OTC....I've got a lot of catching up to do!!!!

Hard to read all this when the H is not at work!


BS
D-Day July 2006...LTA, so lots of drama afterwards...I don't like drama

time is helping to heal the wounds and we are working hard to mend our relationship


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raincloud
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Default  Posted: 9:32 AM, March 14th (Friday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((((Weepy)))))


BS
D-Day July 2006...LTA, so lots of drama afterwards...I don't like drama

time is helping to heal the wounds and we are working hard to mend our relationship


Posts: 835 | Registered: Jun 2007 | From: Texas
heftysmurf
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Default  Posted: 9:54 AM, March 14th (Friday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Happy belated b-day OTC.

((((((((Weepy))))))))

I thought you may have been getting to this point from the posts I have seen everywhere. My heart goes out to you.

You are at a very fragile point. I think you need to detach very hard and just focus on you and accept the fact that you may just have to end it. Stop doing ANYTHING for him.

I know it is terrible. You are nowhere near happy and struggling mighty hard just to make it through the day. That is not the way to live. To confront the loss of the dream of your M and your life is devestating.

The thing is you are a great vibrant person who deserves the best in life. Do not let your husband rob one more moment of happiness from you. You have a lot of life left and will be truly happy again someday. If you husband does not want to help you get their so be it. You will be happy in the end.


BH-Me- 34 WW-Her- 29
D-Day- 11-04-07
M 6 years Together 12 years
2 YR DD WOW I love her!
LTA 6 YEARS - stolen time
Limbo. Praying for DD and our M.
In ridiculous pain. Amazed I can stand.

Posts: 471 | Registered: Nov 2007 | From: New York
hurtshirley
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Default  Posted: 10:11 AM, March 14th (Friday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((((weepy)))))

We are all here for you no matter what you decide.


"Forgiveness is the grace by which you enable the other person to get up, and get up with dignity, to begin anew" Desmond Tutu

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forgivenotforget
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Default  Posted: 10:39 AM, March 14th (Friday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((Weepy))) This is such a tough time for you now and all of the recent publicity with the NY governor hasn't helped. None of us would question your need to move on and certainly if you decide you want to hang in there a little longer, we'll support you with that too. I am deeply concerned for you and hope you will let me know what I can do for you as you struggle through this difficult time.
(((Weepy)))


D-day - 12/23/05 LTA - 8 years.
"Love's a matter of trust and I just want to believe in us." M McBride

Posts: 1901 | Registered: Jun 2006 | From: A tunnel where I'm beginning to see the light
weepy
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Default  Posted: 10:44 AM, March 14th (Friday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Know any discreet hit men?

I don't know maybe getting to this depth is what I need to kick start my own life.

I even managed to go on a health website for diet info. It's kind of a support group deal staffed by nutritionists and they make you walk through steps (like eating the elephant one bite at a time). You know, what can you do TODAY to break part of the cycle.

SO there's a big sign on my fridge saying "CHOOSE WISELY". Could be a credo for all of us.


Dday: 9/12/05
M: 29 yrs( me anyway )
BS(me): 55 And I'm ok with that
FWS: 57- Multiple PAs, LTA 7? yrs.

Try not. Do or do not, there is no try. -- Yoda


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forgivenotforget
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Default  Posted: 11:00 AM, March 14th (Friday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

My D gained a lot from her pregnancy and joined her local chapter of Weight Watchers. She started about 4 months ago and has lost over 60 lbs. She looks fantastic. She has always struggled with weight and has a huge appetite so for her to have been able to achieve this has been such a big deal. We are so happy for her and she is so proud of herself.
She has this down to a science now and watches her points like a demon. She splurged for her anniversary and is now deducting points this week to compensate.
There are a lot of success stories with this plan and I like it because it's a healthy diet form.
Whatever works for you so that you can find some happiness in your life - that's what I'm wishing for you.


D-day - 12/23/05 LTA - 8 years.
"Love's a matter of trust and I just want to believe in us." M McBride

Posts: 1901 | Registered: Jun 2006 | From: A tunnel where I'm beginning to see the light
Lost Heart
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Default  Posted: 11:13 AM, March 14th (Friday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I don't know maybe getting to this depth is what I need to kick start my own life

Thats it Weepy!
Start focusing on you.Attagirl!

I am with FNF on the IRL weight watchers group. Firstly, I think you need that contact IRL.You might make some new friends. Secondly, it will give you an excuse to get out and about. And thirdly, there is nothing more motivating then knowing that come meeting day, you have to weigh in with the group.

***
How is everyone else doing?


Everyday is a winding road
I get a little bit closer
Everyday is a faded sign
I get a little bit closer to feeling fine

Posts: 2471 | Registered: Aug 2006 | From: London
Steelergal
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Default  Posted: 11:31 AM, March 14th (Friday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Wow, awesome last few pages since I've been able to check in. fnf, I want to be you when I grow up. That was incredible. OTC, perfect mantra, and Happy Belated Birthday! I will say that is one path I did not allow myself to go down beating myself up for not being this, that or the other thing. I am who I am, and either you want to be here, or you don't. If you don't, then GO.

Since Dday, I find myself saying things to H that I would've just thought to myself prior. Just this past weekend, H and I were cleaning out a closet, and there was an old coat that he had given me some time ago that I don't plan on wearing any longer. So I put it in a pile to give away. H asked was I sure I wanted to get rid of it, and I responded yes. He said I bet it's probably too small now. H is in pretty good shape. He goes to the gym and does look years younger than his actual age, but his waistline is not the same as when we first met. Neither is mine. I'm just shy of 5'9" and weighed about 120 lbs. when we got together. I'm much healthier now. I said the coat might not fit now, but I've had three children. What's your excuse!?! Why don't we go find some of your clothes from nearly two decades ago, and see if you can fit in them.

Glad you decided to not contact OW, Shirley. Can't add anything other than what was said, and certainly not worth the aggravation as to why someone would allow themselves to be treated like the equivalent of a sexual fast food dive.

((weepy)), there isn't a jury that would convict you.


Posts: 701 | Registered: Jan 2007 | From: No Cal
UKgirl
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Default  Posted: 12:44 PM, March 14th (Friday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Even my IC says "so what, it was just a fuck".

I think we all disagree on this one, weepy. If your IC thinks that sex with prostitutes is okay, then a ONS with a colleague is okay, sex with a neighbour is okay, sex with your BFís W is okay b/c "it's just a fuck"? Any sex outside the existing relationship is NOT okay if it hurts the partner. Paid for or otherwise. Just at what point does your IC think sex with anyone other than your spouse is NOT OKAY?

Iím sorry weepy, I think if your IC spouts stuff like that, they shouldnít be practicing. Like, itís not okay to beat your wife up, but one hard slap that knocks her to the floor is okay? Címon weepy. Find some one else.

Iím so sorry. I donít know what to say. Itís not as if you havenít given it your best, but it seem no way to get through to Mr Weepy. The good words and actions are few when compared to the many hurtful ones. Itís your right to walk. No one would blame you.

I think you need to tell him how serious the situation is, Weepy. If you are going for S, you and he need a sit down talk.

Big hugs (((((weepy)))))

After the surprise of FWH getting OW text this morning, I was wary about turning my phone on. Nothing. Zilch. Seems OWíH has read ďsev yrs of emailsĒ (several, I think). Well, if she was stupid enough to keep them, thatís her fault. FWH thinks she had them password protected and it may have take this long to work out all her passwords. FWH thinks the last email he sent her was over 4yrs ago. She thought I might like copies. Donít think there would be anything worse than the f*cking poetry!! She had also kept every card my H sent her from when they were 15/16. Sad bitch.

ETA
Sorry. I didn't see that you got to pg 22 I've come in late! Think I was in a bit of a rush to write to weepy. Etd again - b/c I'm useless!!

[This message edited by UKgirl at 12:52 PM, March 14th (Friday)]


D-Day: 30 July 2006 LTA: 5yrs
Me, BS, 56 y/o Him, WS, 57 y/o
MOW, pathetic ex-fiancee.
3 grown boys and one 18 y/o
I don't consider myself married anymore.
There are some words once spoken split the world in two. Before you say them and after.

Posts: 3328 | Registered: Nov 2007 | From: UK
BorrowTrouble
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Default  Posted: 1:13 PM, March 14th (Friday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Weepy,

I can't believe anyone wouldn't think the pro's add a whole separate layer of hurt for you. How could they not? No one here doubts your suffering, just as I'm sure you don't doubt any of the rest of ours. We get it, Weepy, and if you are truly done, then we'll support you in leaving the marriage.

You know I am not a fan of your husband's. He's passive-aggressive and he's also outright aggressive when he wants to be. It's like the worst of all worlds.

I just wish you would stop measuring yourself by his actions or lack of actions. What he does or doesn't do affects you, of course, but it does not define you. Except in your mind. If you could finally realize that his opinions of you don't change who you are it would be a huge breakthrough. You would have so many more options, Weepy.

And I completely agree with UK that you need to sit down and tell him honestly and simply that you are going to leave him and why. A straight recitation of facts. I think you owe your family that kind of forthrightness.

BT


Lost,FNF,UTC, thank you for your words. It's funny how some hurts seem to stay with you for life.

UK,

I was wondering whatever happened with that letter. So is her H leaving her? Did your H respond to her? Do the two of them understand the concept of NC?Do you feel like calling the OWH and see if he will forward you the emails. If you have lingering questions, perhaps those will answer them.


D-day 7/29/04.

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UKgirl
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Default  Posted: 1:33 PM, March 14th (Friday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

BT
I have absolutely nooooo idea. No, I donít want to see the soppy, sentimental, nauseating crap he sent her. Iíve seen more than enough of his over emotional scribblings to last the rest of my life! If OWís H wants to talk, heís got my mobile no. Leave it at that. FWH has not responded.

She seemed to be blaming ME for her sitch now!!! Of course, she hadnít the courage to tackle me directly, just a whiny text to her xOM. Weird though, eh?


D-Day: 30 July 2006 LTA: 5yrs
Me, BS, 56 y/o Him, WS, 57 y/o
MOW, pathetic ex-fiancee.
3 grown boys and one 18 y/o
I don't consider myself married anymore.
There are some words once spoken split the world in two. Before you say them and after.

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BorrowTrouble
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Default  Posted: 1:41 PM, March 14th (Friday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Yeah, it is weird. what a waste of space that woman is.


D-day 7/29/04.

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Lost Heart
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Default  Posted: 2:11 PM, March 14th (Friday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Iíve seen more than enough of his over emotional scribblings to last the rest of my life

Hear hear Ukg!!!

***
Just had a thought...Shirley, the OW you were thinking of contacting...does her H know?


Everyday is a winding road
I get a little bit closer
Everyday is a faded sign
I get a little bit closer to feeling fine

Posts: 2471 | Registered: Aug 2006 | From: London
hurtshirley
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Default  Posted: 2:23 PM, March 14th (Friday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

why someone would allow themselves to be treated like the equivalent of a sexual fast food dive.

oooohhhh, that is good. I am going to use that with my H!

I'm just shy of 5'9" and weighed about 120 lbs. when we got together. I'm much healthier now. I said the coat might not fit now, but I've had three children. What's your excuse!?!

Steelergal - were we separated at birth?

At 18, I was 5' 9" and 120 AND less than 10% body fat (our varsity team in college was part of an experiment on body weight, fat % and menstruation). Now I probably weigh 145 (don't have a scale). But, I have three beautiful kids and my boobs are MUCH bigger!

She had also kept every card my H sent her from when they were 15/16. Sad bitch.

Ukg - how fucking pathetic is that. God what an immature twat!


"Forgiveness is the grace by which you enable the other person to get up, and get up with dignity, to begin anew" Desmond Tutu

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hurtshirley
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Default  Posted: 2:26 PM, March 14th (Friday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Shirley, the OW you were thinking of contacting...does her H know?

I don't think so. When we contacted her in August to get the answers to some questions (H had her on bluetooth in his car and I was listening in w/o her knowing) she said that he did not know and begged my H not to tell. Who knows if she has confessed since then? I doubt it.

ETA: btw, the answers that he asked that I wanted to know were "when did they start having sex ,1994 and when was the last time, 2001. My H didn't remember! Musta been pretty special.

[This message edited by hurtshirley at 2:30 PM, March 14th (Friday)]


"Forgiveness is the grace by which you enable the other person to get up, and get up with dignity, to begin anew" Desmond Tutu

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Lost Heart
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Default  Posted: 2:34 PM, March 14th (Friday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Shirley, I know our priority is on us and our M, but do you think that her BS should be told?
I am just thinking how awful it must be for this man, nursing her through her cancer, and then finding out what a POS she was.
And then on the other hand, how awful it must be to never know.


Everyday is a winding road
I get a little bit closer
Everyday is a faded sign
I get a little bit closer to feeling fine

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hurtshirley
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Default  Posted: 2:55 PM, March 14th (Friday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

LostH - I know. I have struggled with this over and over since dday. Last fall, I posted the "should I tell" question in General and in Wayward. It was very split. Most people thought that since NC had been in place for years and that she had come through a fight with cancer, it was better to let it go. I guess the thought process was maybe they slayed some of their demons during that fight.

The other side was "you always tell". I haven't made my final decision yet. Given that they are NC and it has been so long, I don't see the harm in me waiting to decide.

I have told my H that if we D, all parties involved getting notified letters AND they all find out that he was using them all. (Can you imagine your little fantasy world shattering around your feet to find out you were one of 15 different women, pros etc - no a special luuuuuvvv! ).

I am betting he will find out anyway as we are getting ready to tell some people that know her (a couple that we are close to and the man used to work at the same firm as my H and two of the OW).

I will open this up here - what does everyone think?


"Forgiveness is the grace by which you enable the other person to get up, and get up with dignity, to begin anew" Desmond Tutu

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Lost Heart
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am betting he will find out anyway as we are getting ready to tell some people that know her (a couple that we are close to and the man used to work at the same firm as my H and two of the OW

Ok, now I am just being a noseybuddy.
Why are you telling these people?


Everyday is a winding road
I get a little bit closer
Everyday is a faded sign
I get a little bit closer to feeling fine

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