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Just Found Out :
WH just text me this.... what a frickin joke!!

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 Lacy J (original poster member #27714) posted at 5:40 AM on Friday, March 12th, 2010

This is what he sent me tonight people....

I've been crying thinking about you and the pain I caused you. It is tough and I'm sorry about what you're having to go through. And tomorrow is just going to be worse (it's our 5 year wedding anniversary ). So I am sorry. I am so sorry and I love you!

WHAT THE EFF??

REALLY?? less that 24 hours ago he was chatting with people about master/slave and bdsm who were tied up with masks over their faces- yes this is one of the friends he requested!!

WHAT THE EFF?? I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MAD!! My heart is racing! My gut is churning! My WH is out of control!!

Hate to say it peeps, but I don't think this is something I'll be able to recover from... Tonight, I'm thinking D. For me and for the sake of our child. He is sick and this will take a long-ass time.... and to be honest, I think I can do better at this point..... MUCH BETTER!

TALK ABOUT A TWISTED DOUBLE LIFE!! Wowzers!!!!!!!!!!

[This message edited by Lacy J at 11:49 PM, March 11th (Thursday)]

Me- 26
Him- 27
Little Dude- 2
Separated- beginning of March

D-Day 2/18/10: 5+ years of porn, online dating, and cybersex and $20,000 secret cc debt to do so.

D-Day 3/24/10: 2 ONS's and EA/make out with old g/f

Filed for D 8/23/10

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feelyourpain ( member #27587) posted at 5:46 AM on Friday, March 12th, 2010

(((Lacy J)))

I really don't think anything he says to you right is going to be helpful. You need some space and time for this new revelation. I would turn off my phone.

"tough" is such an enormous understatement.

Take care of you. Cry it out and be pissed. I think you should be allowed that right now. Get some sleep and wake up tomorrow and try to figure it out. Tonight just take care of yourself.

DIVORCED!!!! and Loving My Life! :D

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Kjersti ( member #23316) posted at 6:32 AM on Friday, March 12th, 2010

A few years ago, in connection with my job (because BDSM is not something I've ever been personally interested in), I had to do research on the BDSM community. I went to a number of BDSM events and gatherings (conventions; business meetings; some parties; a number of seminars and "BDSM university" courses--which taught "safe, consensual, and sane" bondage, etc. techniques). I talked to many people in the BDSM communities (there are lots of them) over the course of several months, and I read many of the books in the actually very good library of the BDSM organization closest to me. (These BDSM organizations exist over much of North America.)

I learned a great deal starting with: the people were nothing like I had anticipated. For the most part, and with only a couple of exceptions (out of several hundred people I met through those months), the people were absolutely nothing at all like anything I had expected.

I made some good friends there, three in particular: one was lesbian, one was totally gay, and one other who was one of the nicest people I've ever known--and who loved bondage so much (both binding and being bound), he was (and is! ) a master of it.

My thoughts on the subject of BDSM (which had been about 100% not-so-good prior to my beginning my research) were turned around just about 180 degrees. The reality just wasn't anything at all like I had thought it was going to be.

One of the things that was affirmed to me over and over again, time after time (by people who didn't even know they were doing this) was that the people who were part of this community had been inclined in this direction since the beginnings of their earliest memories. Some of them could tell the moment they became aware that they had deep BDSM inclinations, and often these "moments" were pre-kindergarten in age. They always knew they were "different," and most of them had suffered for almost all of their lives with feelings of shame and fear that, if anyone else ever knew, they would be ostracized.

Over and over again they spoke of how grateful they were that, through these people and these gatherings, they could finally explore what was, to them, this very important and fundamental part of themselves.

I don't know your WH, but it is at least possible that he is one of these people. If so, then he's possibly been suffering for almost all of his life from parts of himself that he has been unable (or largely unable, anyway) to admit to anyone.

Now that you know, is it possible that you could, in your own way, do some research to find out not only what is involved here (it is a multi-faceted world, and what some people do is not at all what other people do), but also whether you might possibly be able to come to some accommodation with these parts of your husband's inner self? (Assuming that he isn't just theoretically exploring, but is genuinely inclined in a BDSM direction.)

You will learn things that will expand your own self. (I did, and I didn't even participate in anything! )

More importantly, you will gain the knowledge you need to make the decisions you're evidently going to have to make.

I need to point out that BDSM activities like bondage, for example, often do not involve anything actually sexual or even nudity. There are plenty of bondage situations where both the bondager and the bondagee are fully clothed. If bondage is your husband's "thing," this may not necessarily be outside of the boundaries that you could have for your marriage. (Assuming, for example, that you were willing to learn about bondage.)

I am NOT saying "give it a try." I AM saying: Think about maybe learning a little. Ask for your husband's input. Do some research. Maybe even attend the Orientation meeting of your own, local, BDSM organization. (Orientation meetings involve nothing BDSM, but are informative only, for those who seek out this information).

Maybe you could even attend a bondage class--and you could just sit there and learn from what's going on around you.

This is how benign bondage can be: remember Cowboys & Indians? Remember being tied up to a tree? A lot of adults, who now count bondage as an important part of their lives, cite this as the first moment they realized that this was something that, to them, was very special.

It's something to think about, and even if you never, ever want to learn a thing about BDSM (I didn't; it was something I had to do), or go to a meeting, or read a book about any subject which falls under the huge BDSM umbrella, maybe after reading my post, you can give your WH just a little bit of slack.

Because one of the things I really do now know is that, if he truly is BDSM, he's been in a lot of pain over knowing this about himself for most or all of his life, and just that little bit of understanding from you--if you could find it in yourself to give it to him--might make a huge difference in balancing the feelings between you.

No matter what you both eventually decide to do.

[This message edited by Kjersti at 12:54 AM, March 12th (Friday)]

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HardenMyHeart ( member #15902) posted at 6:51 AM on Friday, March 12th, 2010

TALK ABOUT A TWISTED DOUBLE LIFE!!

Some people are really good about compartmentalizing their life. There are many BS's (me included) that were stunned to find out their WS was living a double life.

Try to give yourself some time to heal and comprehend everything that has happened. This is a very emotional time and sometimes it's hard to think clearly.

You may want to seek out an IC to help you get through this. My IC was a tremendous help to me shortly after d-day.

Me: BH, Her: WW, Married 40 years, Reconciled

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k9lover1 ( member #8531) posted at 12:19 PM on Friday, March 12th, 2010

He cheated, he was discovered, he was so so sorry, he went right back to what he had been doing.

So.....let's see what changed.....

cheater....

boo hoo....

cheater.,...

Hmmm - looks the same to me. I don't care how benign the bdsm can be, he is cheating on you - period.

He is one sick puppy.

D-Day was 10/9/05
He promised NC. He lied. After 4 chances, I kicked him out 1/05/06.
Since then I have survived cancer surgery and a heart attack.
Now he's sorry, but it's too late. He died an alcoholic on 9/5/17.

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tearsofjade ( member #25778) posted at 12:34 PM on Friday, March 12th, 2010

He wants to have it all. You and the look of a "normal" stable life and his "secret" sexual preference. If you are not into the same sexual stuff and he is then it boils down to a compatability issue.

If you are turned off by his need for this activity and are not able to meet those needs thats OK. I guess I look at it like a fish and a dog falling in love. The fish can't live out of the water and the dog can't live in the water, they are not compatable.

He kept this need a secret from you so now you are blindsided about who he really is, because he hid it. Basically he went into your marriage on false pretenses, he was hiding a very important part of him and when he couldn't do without it he acted out elsewhere to get that need met.

I had to come to the understanding that my WH and I were incompatable, our views on life etc are just to different. We get married with these dreams in mind and when they don't work out that way we have a hard time seeing reality. Frogs don't turn to princes just because you kiss them, no matter how much you want it to be true.

FBW(me)48
Divorced and really happy!
The best revenge is a life lived well!

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somanyyears ( member #26970) posted at 1:13 PM on Friday, March 12th, 2010

..lacy J..

obviously you have been given a huge shock to discover this other side of WH..

you'll get tons of support and feedback here to help you deal with this new information

Kjersty makes some excellent points about peoples' habits surrounding their most private and 'secretive' sexual needs and desires, not always in line with our perceived expectations and understanding of that person..

i NEVER would have thought my GF, then wife, could have engaged in her 'activity' for so many years. (not BDSM by the way).. but still, a total and utter shock to my whole psyche of who i thought she was.

i just couldn't believe she was capable of orchestrating this kind of secret sexual double life..

to be honest.. i still find it unbelievable..and it has destroyed a huge part of our lives.. which we will never get back and we'll never forget..

..compatibility is very important in any relationship and if you are able to still love him and understand this side of him, it could be a starting point for a new and better intimate life together.

honesty and openness in the bedroom is essential if you truly want to be real with each other..

..its

when one partner feels they have to hide their sexuality from the other because they think the partner will judge them as weird, sick, twisted

or bad.. this just sets up a dangerous situation for deception and cheating..

..and everybody here knows how thats going..

..the worst and most profoundly devastating event(s) imaginable in one's life..

Lacy.. take care of yourself for now.. talk with those you love and respect for their support and advice..

..we all need time to process this nightmare..

give yourself time..

prayers go out to you.

smy

trust no other human- love only your pets. Reconciled I think! Me 77 Her 74 Married 52 yrs. 18 yr LTA with bff/lawyer. Little fucker died at 57.Brain tumour!

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