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User Topic: Long Term Affair Part 19
njgal480
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Default  Posted: 12:25 PM, August 23rd (Monday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

fnf...
I am away on vacation and that may be why I'm a bit scattered...
yes, I did know that forgive NOT forget....
and I totally agree..we will never forget.
Just hope the pain of it all lessens with time.

miracle...I think that your arrangement with him allowed to run around...will ultimately do more harm than good to both you and the kids...just my opinion..
I thought you were reconcilied in a way that he was in the house... wanting to work things out with you but you were beyond hurt and were just staying till the kids were older and settled...
But, if you believe that he continues to disrespect you in the house even now...well that is just such a painful, toxic, existance...
if he is staying though..the least he can do is stay out of your hair.... assign him a seperate bathroom, bedroom and definitely make him do all of his own laundry, cooking, etc.
Trust me..your kids will not notice if he does his own laundry... tell him to do the kids laundry too for that matter.
From now on it should be about you.
Your decision to stay with him in the house is based on what you think is best for the kids...OK... so, as you do that..now it's time to focus on what you need and want...
my husband and i are reconciled and guess what? I do not do his laundry! he does most of the laundry and the cooking and the dishes....
I'm done with all of that..
and no one is suspicious...
everyone thinks its great...
and as for sleeping in seperate rooms...well tell everyone his snoring is unbelievable..thats it...
so, you can live under the same roof..he can provise financially for the kids and be there for them..but, it needs to be as painless as possible for you!
Miracle...what are you doing for yourself lately?
you can detach from the marriage..plenty of wives of alcoholics do it all the time..but, then you have to begin building a life for yourself that is seperate.

ats....
are you sure that your wife is not bipolar? or has BPD? have you discussed this possibility with your IC?
she says the marriage was not good....because you did all the cooking and made her uncomfortable because she had to sit down at a table and eat it as opposed to grabbing a quick snack?
and...another big reason for a bad marriage was that her back hurt when she went on a boat with you?

does this sound right?
either she's now grabbing for straws to explain her behavior or.... she has other issues...

by the way, that's what I meant when I said none of us had happy marriages...not that we were necesarrily doing anything wrong..or that there were any real problems in the marriage...but if our spouses believed that there were issue and were acting out in their own sick ways..well, then obviously our marriages were not as happy as we thought.

miracle...
congrats to your daughter on the driving test! Yaay!!! freedom...


Me- BS
Him- WH
Long term marriage
D-day- Jan. 2007
5 yr. LTA
Reconciled.


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trynhard
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Default  Posted: 12:28 PM, August 23rd (Monday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

iwantamiracle... Thank you for sharing your family story.. We all have storied past..

I grew up in Georgia and very fond and happy memories of life... I always thought my parents loved each other. We moved to Louisiana and continued a very happy life and always thought my parents loved each other. While I was at LSU, my parents moved to Virginia. I continued to believe they loved each other. But one day, I get a call, they are divorcing. WHAM.. Out of nowhere! I was so shocked! I called my Sister who lived there… all she would say is my mom is living with OM.. He is now my stepfather. (He’s 3 years older the me) My mom decided she did not love my dad so she started to go out with her girlfriends and started an A. My dad found out by secretly tapping the phone. I think he was crushed but later I found he too was a cheater. I don’t think my mother knew about that… I think he cheated with a whore? My grandmother told me. My dad is an atheist, His parents, my grandparent, didn’t believe in God.

My dad found a new woman and married here a couple years after their D. He would tell me he was not going to be lonely. He wore a hat around that said.. “Divorce, when two people make a mistake and only one pays for it”... my mom was always a homemaker.. My stepmother tells me she benefited from my dads mistakes in life.. My stepmother is an absolutely wonderful woman. My dad raised her son from age 6 or 7, my stepbrother, who is very successful and high raking in the Army. He flew Kiowa helicopters, Master’s degree. My Dad changed after that. He became very successful at his job, a good family man. He has been very generous to me over the years with gifts of love.

My mother started smoking, drinking and she might be an alcoholic. My mom gave up a very nice home to live in one of the poorer sections of Richmond, VA. She went back to school and got her nursing license to work at the VA hospital in the geriatric area. She lives very modestly with my stepfather who for years was a drug and alcoholic…He is now paying for that in diabetic near death health. My stepfather had a poor childhood, uneducated, never really had a steady job, children with two different women, arrested a few times… She told me she would tell her side one day… She really doesn’t need to tell me. See.. the family bond with my mother will always be untouchable no matter what happens. Today, I think my stepfather is a very humbled person. My mom says God place her here on earth to take care of him.. (humm.. same age as my older brother??)

After my own dday, I started calling my mom about every other day. She always knew how to cheer me. My mom has been very generous by giving me the love of affirmation… She tells me today that I am a very special man... hah.. Although I never told my mom about my W’s 8 year affair.. I suspect she is not an idiot. Not much was said after it was known my W abruptly quit her job… My dad would say, I thought she loved that job? And I would say their relationship soured and they broke up. No questions asked other then what is she planning to do…

Maybe you guys can see why I am the way I am…

[This message edited by trynhard at 12:35 PM, August 23rd (Monday)]


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m334455
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Default  Posted: 12:55 PM, August 23rd (Monday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

hey tryn -- I spent a semester at LSU with XH. Geaux Tigers!

Miracle -- I'm glad I helped. Weird way to grow up, but c'est la vie.

njgal -- tsk tsk dumping on us bipolars ...

I will be fascinated to see what WH says about me to IC re: my bipolar...

Just an interesting factoid I read about bipolars and infidelity. While it's usually the bipolar cheating b/c of hypersexuality, etc. there is ALSO a significant amount of infidelity on the part of spouses due to needing outside support feeling isolated, etc. it sets up that "ripe for an A" environment. Plus, let's face it, if you'll marry an active bipolar you've already got issues somewhere.

ATS -- what's the timeline of A as it corellates to Wellbutrin? The reason I'm asking is that if a bipolar takes an anti-depressant it will usually make them manic to some degree. even if the A was before -- did it escalate?

One BIG reason my IC wants to meet WH is that he wants to explain to WH that I'm well and I'm going to stay well and my grumpiness NOW is because WH had an A, isn't doing what he needs to do to fix it and is ALSO being a jerk. He also wants to let WH know that I've BEEN well for some time and that I haven't been doing IC, I've been doing unilateral marriage counseling for the last 4 years.

I hope it will make a difference. It's easy to marginalize someone when they have a mental illness -- especially when you're also in an A and you NEED to vilify them a bit to assuage your guilt. And I won't even go into the whole lord only knows what OW was saying about me -- she kept telling me that WH doesn't treat me well, I should leave him, wah wah...

Question: do you all think I'm awful for wanting to sell my house? A lot of bad things have happened since we moved there.

Maybe I should just ask the priest to come bless it.


BW 38, 5 kids
Dday Dec. 2009

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iwantamiracle
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Default  Posted: 1:04 PM, August 23rd (Monday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

more cross posting....


tryn thank you for sharing, as my kids say sharing is caring, although they say it when they are taking some of my popcorn.. ...seriously tryn, that is something....its amazing the backgrounds, i sometimes feel that there is no such thing as normal or what we percieve as normal except on t.v...no such thing as the "perfect imperfect family"


i didn't see your questions fnf, actually i didnt' see your post..

i will tell you guys the story from the weekend took yet another turn..so i will answer all and add the rest..

What a sad thing for you and all your siblings to go through.

well, i have only one sibling, that is my half sister that my dad had with my aunt...so i was the only one left out, and left out i was...but thats another story for another day...

I can see now why it is so important for you to do your best to keep your family together.

yes it is, also because i know what it is to have those unresolved issues with a dad..


You didn't mention your Mom much in your story. Did she ever remarry?

no, never remarried, dated very little and led and still leads a solitary life for the most part, reading has become her escape and her life...but she is an amazing grandma to my kids, and stand in mom for some of my friends..

Did she remain bitter about the awful thing her sister did to her and about your dad's leaving? How is she today?

she is not bitter in the normal sense at all, she always maintained a very civil relationship with my dad, and her relationship with her sister was another matter, when they were forced together for funerals (my mom would never attend any function that she would be at) she would act like nothing ever happened, when their step dad died, their mom, their brothers...no one would ever no that there was a rift let alone a canyon...

today there is still no relationship except after this past weekend, (go figure)..my aunt called my mom because after seeing ME she was worried that i might be anorexic...that i look too skinny, especially in the face,,, my aunt first questioned her daughter, my cousin about me, cousin L told her i was fine, she didn't believe me, she also heard some stuff wrong between me and her granddaugter, cousin L's daughter, thinking i wanted to lose 10 more pounds, its her granddaughter that wants to lose that weight, not i...anyway cousin L knows about pfm's infidelity, she kept my confidence...so with that my aunt called my mom...yes my mom knows, but didn't tell her sister...the convo lasted all of 5 minutes and that was that...

so i am glad that she cares enough to do right for me, even though it might hurt my mom, so i am taking this as a good thing, and so is my mom

(Sorry, I have so many questions )

no need to apologize, i am open, and i love being able to be open, my mom growing up tried to keep it quiet,
but as a kid i didn't understand this, this was in the 60's, and d was big taboo, you were branded bigtime...let alone your husband leaving you to marry your sister..

Does she know about pfm and how does she help you now if she does know?


yes she knows, pfm told her last year the day after the 4th of july...yet another huge booboo pfm made, i had told him that he needed to tell her, she had started to ask me 2 many questions and i already made my decision to end the marriage when the time is right, so telling her was inevitable...he took upon himself to tell her when he brought her home from my house to her house without me...i wanted to be there when he told her, ini her 70's she doesn't need to be told this horrible thing about her only kid and not be able to put her arms around me for herself as much as for me....but thats yet another story...so many fucking stories...sheesh...

anyway, she knows, and within a couple fo weeks when the intial shock wore off, she is my mother, treats him very respectfully, as she says he is a human being and deserves to be treated as such, doesn't mean she forgot what he's done or that if he gives her reason, she puts him in his place...and she has also told him that he has given me a free pass....

pfm has learned what a real mother is from my mom...which i think helped him see his mom for who and what she is...

I think one of the hardest things to do as a parent who has been betrayed is to not bash our S in front of our children

my mother never let anyone, not my grandmother, her other sisters, no one talk bad about my father to me or in front of me, nor did she ever...she felt it was wrong because he was still my dad and one day i will form my own opinions about who he was...and i did...she is a very smart woman my mother...


ok so i think i answered all the questions...if you have any others...go for it..

and thank you for asking...

it is some story though...if i really did know all those answers i would write a book


i am taking my life back, one step at a time!!!!!

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m334455
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Default  Posted: 1:23 PM, August 23rd (Monday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Actually, you really should write a book...

Maybe *I* will write a novel about LTA... one of those with the characters all over the country


BW 38, 5 kids
Dday Dec. 2009

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forgivenotforget
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Default  Posted: 1:28 PM, August 23rd (Monday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Your Mom sounds like an amazing, wonderful woman and you are very lucky to have her for support, love and guidance. No wonder you are the warm and caring person we see here - what a beautiful example your mother has been for you. Now I want to hug your Mom IRL too!


D-day - 12/23/05 LTA - 8 years.
"Love's a matter of trust and I just want to believe in us." M McBride

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iwantamiracle
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Default  Posted: 1:56 PM, August 23rd (Monday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

oh my gosh...more cross posting....dip we need a word for it!!!

writing a book, i have thought about it, but i don't think i would know where to take it...i am anal, need a beginning a middle and a happy ending..


m3 i love this c, he sounds like fnf's counceler...i love people who just get to the point...


fnf, i will pass along those hugs..i have told outaet, si, and she is so happy that i have this outlet, something she didn't have...she didn't have a support system either...she lost her sister who was also one of her best friends, and their mom, lets just say the aunt was the favorite and that didn't change...

she loves si for me...and she loves that i have been able to g2g on several occasion with some si'ers...

i wonder when i post this if i will find yet another cross post


and laura if you are still there, do not let all this dialogue scare you, we can be quite chatty and it took us all what seems like forever to get to this chatty existance...and we do have some quiet times too...

[This message edited by iwantamiracle at 1:57 PM, August 23rd (Monday)]


i am taking my life back, one step at a time!!!!!

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trynhard
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Default  Posted: 2:00 PM, August 23rd (Monday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

m334455… It’s a small world. Maybe I opened a door for you back then? The first cruse I ever went on, I met Bubba in the casino. That week, we talked, laughed and had a lot of fun. Then, on my second cruse, about 5 years after the first, I was in the elevator, recognized this fella... yep, it was Bubba. What do you think the odds? It was his second cruse too.. I loved Louisiana… going down over Labor Day for my 30th High School reunion… Yep, LSU was where I got my degree and met my W…

fnf... My W already saw that movie with my daughter… I didn’t realize that movie was based on Elizabeth… thought this was a chick flick… I’m living that way.. my whole life from her out will be based on that one paragraph by that woman…

Iwant.. Just don’t answer if you don’t want, but I was curious… do you sleep in same room with H? What do you think your kids are going to feel when you tell them later in life?

Oh well… off to surprise my W with something romantic for when she gets home from work.. Maybe I’ll get lucky.. She wasn’t feeling good all weekend because it was only me and her… when she’s not feeing good, I’m not… Boy I wish UK could make a quick cooking suggestion... lol

[This message edited by trynhard at 2:09 PM, August 23rd (Monday)]


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trynhard
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Default  Posted: 2:06 PM, August 23rd (Monday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

cantbelieve and Paper Rose have not posted lately either?? hummm??

laura we can help you...


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iwantamiracle
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Default  Posted: 2:15 PM, August 23rd (Monday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Just don’t answer if you don’t want, but I was curious… do you sleep in same room with H?

we do sleep in the same room, the bedroom is huge, and i have a chair and a half in it (slightly smaller then a loveseat)..and that is his bed...and has been his bed from the getgo

What do you think your kids are going to feel when you tell them later in life?

well my dd already knows, and has what she calls daddy issues, she refuses therapy which we have offered
manchild i think will take it the hardest..he is the idealist, he is the one who already has daddy issues, and middle child syndrome...i think his disappointment in his dad will be vast and if pfm doesn't do the damage control he needs to do now, i am thinkin depending on the age of manchild when he learns of his fathers activities to either turning into really bad boy as opposed to just skipping hw and projects to skipping school altogether and probably getting with the wrong crowd

scrawny boy i believe will be ok in his own life but will cut his dad out except when necessary like dd...

if pfm can repair the damage hes done to them though before the boys find out it could be different, the boys i think can come to forgive him sooner then my dd...but every move he makes will be judged and no mistakes can be made, an almost impossible task which is why he needs to do what he can now before the boys know...he needs to build a foundation before the building of the relationship can commense and withstand the earthquake that is coming...


i am taking my life back, one step at a time!!!!!

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Default  Posted: 2:24 PM, August 23rd (Monday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

miracle. I did have a word for cross posting. I thought it was one of my better words I had invented. Did you not write it down??? That is your job....

ats. Your W and mine must have had a good time standing in line together. The line where they were passing out the pessimism. I bet they went through that line many, many times together. I was wondering if she had been checked out concerning BPD or some other disorder. Your last post about how she is NOW all excited and planning things does sound like my W. Your W just went from black to white in her mind set. It really sounds familiar. Listen to njgal. She is very wise about these matters.

m3. No I do not think it is wrong to want to sell your house. I have thought about selling mine before. I just can not bring myself to do it. I would never be able to replace the location. If you are going to write a book are you going to have phrases in it? You never have shared any of your favorite phrases from your collection.

tryn. Good luck with getting lucky.

Hugs to the tribe.


Her WW 60
Me BH 60
M 36 yr
D-day#1 fall of 76 OM#1 2NS
D-day#2 summer of 89 OM#2 LTA 8 yrs OM#3 Short Term A


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Default  Posted: 2:55 PM, August 23rd (Monday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hi all, we are really all on today. I miss paper roses, icantbelieve, and ukgirl.

I do not believe that FWW is diagnosable in the bipolar spectrum, but I can raise it with IC on Wednesday. FWW worked for a while doing psyc patient intakes, you would think someone would have noticed something there if there were symptoms.

Here is what I think it is, and I will explore with IC. A very scared and frightened little girl resides within FWW. Most of the time she is compartmentalized away along with the rest of the horrible memories. Prior to dday I only met her once, and did not realize it at the time. Over 15 years ago FWW was afraid her xH was going to take some anger out on the girls over some issue, I forget what. I came home and could not find FWW. She was crouched in the corner of a closet. It took me the better part of an hour talking gently, joking, soothing, to get her out of the closet. I do not know why this did not set off big warning flags for me.

As FWW has emerged from the fog since dday, this frightened, and at times angry, girl has come out more often. She has hidden sobbing on the closet floor, she is the one who beat me with her fists one night, she is the one who one night poured out all our booze, and she was whom I was arguing with last Thursday. She is the one who HAS to go to her parents party that FWW does not want to attend. She has to go out of guilt, and fear that her family will stop loving her. This little girl does not know me very well, so she does not feel guilty about me. Most the times we meet are when something, or I, have frightened FWW. This little girl talks in absolutes and extremes, usually in a demanding voice. Her physical movements are abrupt, I presume adrenalin influenced. There is no rational discussion with her. Despite new and practiced skills I cannot reconnect with her, I cannot easily deescalate the situation. At best, I can become passive and calmly answer her questions and demands with no defensiveness.

I just re-read what I wrote. Holy crap. How can I sit here and rationally think that I can build a relationship with this person?


LTA BS 53
FWW 60
M 1990, dday 10-5-09
Reconciled

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ats: because when she is not that little girl she is the woman you love, and i believe you not only still love that little girl but have a need to make it all better for her...

m3 sell the house if thats what it take for you to move on..

dip: no i do not remember the word...and right now i do not have the patience to go and find it...you will just hopefully take pity on me and remind me..yes


ok mini vent coming:

...i go into the mudroom because i got sidetracked from the laundry and what on top of the machines waiting for me but pfms dirty laundry...i just told the mother fucker last nite that he was on his own with his clothes...well he is pissed, imagine that, he is pissed because i wont do his laundry...he tells me, so now we have to run the machines twice, and use electicity for this, this doens't make sense...and i got mad because he thought he could just sort it in the baskets and be done with it...that was what he first tried...fuck no...put all of your dirty shit in the closet...that where all your dirty shit goes in the fucking closet...he is all bent because "it wasnt what you thought"...i dont give a shit..not anymore,...then you should have told me what it was, not that i believe you , not anymore..that what you get when you brand yourself a liar, not believed...fuck off and enjoy doing your laundry and if you are worried about the bills, then just wait til you have a full load...and walla...no wastage.....

ok vent over....


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atsenaotie
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Default  Posted: 3:13 PM, August 23rd (Monday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

are you sure that your wife is not bipolar? or has BPD? have you discussed this possibility with your IC?
she says the marriage was not good....because you did all the cooking and made her uncomfortable because she had to sit down at a table and eat it as opposed to grabbing a quick snack?
and...another big reason for a bad marriage was that her back hurt when she went on a boat with you?

does this sound right?

njgal480, my point with these was in response to Tryn. He had indicatd that while we were doing these things we were having fun. I was simply trying to point out that there was very little if anything that was consistently fun for FWW in our M.

In our talk last night we discussed how our two personalities clashed early and hard in the M, and never really recovered. She would talk to me about her frustrations with her girls (homework, sassing, most anything). I made the classic male mistake, I presumed she was coming to me for advice or help to fix the problem. I would work to implement bedtimes, help with chores, homework before TV rules, that sort of stuff, like my childhood had been. The added advantage was that if the girls helped with cleaning, got to bed at a decent hour there might have been time for FWW and I at the end of the day. I thought FWW not having time to spend with me was a time managenment issue, it was not. Early in the M she was withdrawing.


FWW really resented this my setting up chores, bedtime, dinnertime, etc for the girls. She felt that while their style was different, it was OK and it was insulting to have to do things the "atsenaotie way". She never talked to me about this. She did journal all about it, and her older DD found and read the journal. This is the DD that does not like me.

Funny, we both hated and blamed the same person for the M not being better, me. She says that during IC she did around 2000 her IC said "I bet atsenaotie has no idea how very angry you are". She was right, I was not invited in to the C sessions, I thought FWW was dealing with issues about her M and DD.


LTA BS 53
FWW 60
M 1990, dday 10-5-09
Reconciled

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atsenaotie
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Default  Posted: 3:33 PM, August 23rd (Monday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

he is pissed because i wont do his laundry...

Wives do laundry??? Do other people know about this? Is this a new thing?

Well hell, I have been doing most of the laundry in our house for years. Actually, folding it all gives me an excuse to sit and watch Fox cartoons (Simpsons, Family Guy, etc) on Sunday evenings.

I am not making light of your situation iwam, it just struck as so absolutley funny someone being upset about not getting their laundry done for them. When others in the house help out with laundry my whites come out pink, my cotton clothes come out shrunk, and the dryer filter never gets cleaned.

[This message edited by atsenaotie at 3:34 PM, August 23rd (Monday)]


LTA BS 53
FWW 60
M 1990, dday 10-5-09
Reconciled

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Default  Posted: 3:43 PM, August 23rd (Monday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

don't apologize ats...i love humor, its my saving grace i think...

and i did tell him if i find his laundry in the hampers in the mudroom i would throw them away...he took them out...

i win!!!

its about fucking time i win something...too bad its not a whole heap of money...



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Default  Posted: 3:43 PM, August 23rd (Monday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

how sick am i, posting i win...that is just wrong on so many levels...


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Default  Posted: 3:50 PM, August 23rd (Monday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

How's about instead of "I win"

You clearly communicated a dealbreaker boundary and your WS complied?

There, that sound more clincal.

ETA:

he is pissed

I thought it was ws u/w that was pissed, as in pissed in?

[This message edited by atsenaotie at 4:05 PM, August 23rd (Monday)]


LTA BS 53
FWW 60
M 1990, dday 10-5-09
Reconciled

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Default  Posted: 3:54 PM, August 23rd (Monday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

what's the timeline of A as it corellates to Wellbutrin?

m334455, she took the Wellbutrin, and Prozac before that, wel before the A's (that I know of ).


LTA BS 53
FWW 60
M 1990, dday 10-5-09
Reconciled

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Default  Posted: 4:09 PM, August 23rd (Monday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

ast.. you walk my path.. I just got through with a couple loads of laundry.. even made a trip to Walmart.. I ready for my romantic night.. thanks for that good luck Dip...

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