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NewAttitude
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Default  Posted: 3:56 PM, September 7th (Tuesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I am having to go back and read this book again to delve deeper.

Is anyone else getting the feeling that she writes with a curious sense of detachment? Like, in remembering, she has edited out any really strong emotions? I mean, she was attacked by a freaking lion and while it sounds terrifying and exciting she is very matter of fact about it.
Do you think this is because she may identify herself more strongly with male characteristics than female?

I'm just getting the feeling that maybe she was a very 'contained' kind of person. I would expect someone who lived such a flamboyant kind of life to be more dramatic or something.

I don't think I'm explaining myself well.


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Default  Posted: 8:19 AM, September 8th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I think she is a restrained person--you know, stiff upper lip and all that.

But I don't think she is detached at all. I think in the case of the lion, she has blocked most of it out...like her scream at that time...it was so awful that she couldn't even hear it at the time. And her description of the lion's roar and the sounds of hell--I think she was definitely affected.

I think she has really "analyzed" her life and in writing about it, it comes across as detached.

[This message edited by punky at 8:20 AM, September 8th (Wednesday)]


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Default  Posted: 10:50 AM, September 8th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I am going to rejoin the conversation after I finish the book. I find I have too many questions in sections that are answered later on so I think I will be a better contributor after I finish the book.

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Default  Posted: 2:13 PM, September 8th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I didn't get my reading finished. So, I'll be back


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Default  Posted: 6:04 PM, September 8th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I absolutely adore the way she describes Bishon Singh's way of speaking. On advising her father about the lion attack "......that you had been moderately eaten by the large lion". Moderately eaten. It had me crying with laughter, even though it was such a terrifying event.


Me BS 54 FWH (BT) 52 M 22 years D Day 4/11/06 Over a year of trickle truths. March 08. D Day 2. Online porn and SA. Just when I thought we'd be ok, July 19 08. BT had accident. Severe brain damage, in persistent vegetative state. I lost him anyway.

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Default  Posted: 8:03 PM, September 8th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I know--that WAS funny!!!

I also love how they call her Beru...


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Default  Posted: 9:04 PM, September 10th (Friday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Still loving this book.

Wondering how far along everyone is.


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Default  Posted: 3:14 AM, September 11th (Saturday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'm through with part 3.

With the lion attack, I think part of it is that she was a child, wasn't she? If she was 15 when she delivered Coquette's colt, she was pre-pubescent during the lion attack. Her little friend must not have even been old enough to accompany them because he should've been along otherwise.

I get the sense that her father has absolutely no idea where she even is at any given time.

Normally I would be very disapproving of cat eating dogs but I LOLd when the leopard's attempt at avenging the feline race simply resulted in its death and her dog's cat killing changing from a hobby to a vocation.

[This message edited by ladyvorkosigan at 3:16 AM, September 11th (Saturday)]


It nagged him, in particular, that none of the girls hed known so far had given him a sense of unalloyed triumph.

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Default  Posted: 6:21 PM, September 11th (Saturday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'm working on part 3 and will be done by Monday to discuss.

I agree that her father does not have any clue what she is up to much of the time. I'm a little surprised that, given her mother isn't there, that he doesn't keep a female nanny around.

Maybe he did when she was a baby. But still I think it would not be uncommon for him to keep some type of woman in the house to care for or watch out for her.

She must have a tutor of some sort b/c she speaks of avoiding lessons.


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Default  Posted: 7:40 AM, September 14th (Tuesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

She does have some sort of tutor...it is mentioned at the beginning of part two somewhere. I am going to re-read and see if there is something I missed there.

Doesn't seem that there was a nanny, though. She matured quickly. And I agree that he didn't seem to keep up with her activities much. But overall feel that she had a closeness with her father. They did things together; he taught her the horse business.

I finished part three. Didn't really get into it as much. The way she wrote this section seems different from the first two. Does anyone think she was depressed during this time? She seemed sad until the section about the race. This was a big transition in her life and a lot of bad things happened, so I guess it would make sense that it would come across in the writing.

I feel sorry for Wild Child...glad they didn't race her again.


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Default  Posted: 9:09 AM, September 14th (Tuesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'm a horse lover. When I went to my first horse race as a child, one of the fillies broke a leg and collapsed on the track. It was HORRIBLE.

When I got to the race part in the book, I could hardly get through it. The author really built up the excitement, telling the story kind of from the horses' points of view. Excellent writing!


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Default  Posted: 4:26 PM, September 15th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'm behind in my reading.
I do find that I am having a hard time limiting myself to just the books so I'm thinking in the future that I need to read the entire book before yakking about it.


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Default  Posted: 8:05 PM, September 15th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Sheesh, I'm way ahead. YIKES!

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Default  Posted: 11:58 AM, September 16th (Thursday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Finished the book last night. I really enjoyed it.

I'll reserve other comments until it's time to discuss.


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him: XWS

Much of your pain is self-chosen. ~Kahlil Gibran, The Prophet, 1923

"It's not livin' that you're doin' if it feels like dyin." Ray Lamontagne


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Default  Posted: 4:35 PM, September 16th (Thursday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I've finished too. Couldn't stop myself. I'll wait to discuss till next week.


Me BS 54 FWH (BT) 52 M 22 years D Day 4/11/06 Over a year of trickle truths. March 08. D Day 2. Online porn and SA. Just when I thought we'd be ok, July 19 08. BT had accident. Severe brain damage, in persistent vegetative state. I lost him anyway.

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Default  Posted: 5:51 PM, September 16th (Thursday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'm bringing up the rear


Me: late 40's
XH: A parasite and that might be a compliment
My S-23, Our D-15
Married 5/93 D-Day: 11/18/03
Divorced 5/19/08

The future's so bright - I got to wear shades

Plant Seeds of Kindness


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Default  Posted: 6:42 PM, September 16th (Thursday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'm still dragging through the elephant hunt - not my cup of tea.

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Default  Posted: 6:59 PM, September 16th (Thursday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'm very behind. I had to return my library book because someone wanted it. I don't know when I'll get another one (there were 2 available to transfer to my library). But anyway, this has been a hellacious week as we found out my dad might have cancer so I don't think I would have read much anyway. I might have to just start with the next book.


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Default  Posted: 8:32 PM, September 16th (Thursday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Speaking of the next book, should we start a new thread to discuss it?

Iknow we discussed starting the debate earlier so we would be able to move into then next book after we finish the discussion of this book next week.

Ok, I'll just go ahead and start it.


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Much of your pain is self-chosen. ~Kahlil Gibran, The Prophet, 1923

"It's not livin' that you're doin' if it feels like dyin." Ray Lamontagne


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Default  Posted: 8:47 PM, September 16th (Thursday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I think we should discuss on a new thread.

Hopefully, we can come to an agreement more quickly!

Maybe a genre that is a complete 180 from Adventure...fantasy or sci-fi maybe.

[This message edited by punky at 8:54 PM, September 16th (Thursday)]


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