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User Topic: Long Term Affair Part 20
Laura28
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Default  Posted: 3:09 PM, October 12th (Tuesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hi all

Thank you all so much for your kind responses to my rant yesterday. As usual in the evenings I had my 2 or 3 Merlots and this time I lost it a little.

To clarify:

My 19yr old son has Marfan (diagnosed 2007) - a connective tissue disorder. Effects every cell. Fibrillin which is to do with stretching is minimal. Things that should stretch and go back into shape - like blood vessels, skin, lungs, joints etc wear out - a little like old elestic. Become brittle and "break" - hence both lungs have collapsed repeatedly and after surgery are now "stuck" to chest wall. He has to have his aorta checked regularly as there is a very high risk of it bursting = sudden death. It is currently at 3.7cm. (mine is 2.6 and it widens as you get older!!!). When it reaches 5 he will have to have major heart surgery and go on antirejection drugs for life. He also has a leaky mitral valve in heart which may have to be replaced. He is hypermobile - can do weird things with his joints but they become very sore at times and can also pop out easily. After diagnosis he became very depressed. Then prescribed Ads and became manic and suicidal. We cannot risk more ADs and he refuses IC. He has great support from friends and busy social life so I can just hope he'll recover emotionally.

Daughter's skeletalproblems very serious. She has "dead" tissue in her back, arthritis in her neck and back and constant headaches. Has been to many docs over last few years. All had different wroong explanations. Saw an osteopath on Monday he said her probs originated 10 yrs ago with scoliosis. We were told at the time it was ok and didn't need treament. He says did and lack of treatment has led to major muscle bone joint and ligament damage which causes neck and back pain and headaches. Says he will do what he can.

I now feel my wonderful life (as I saw it in 2007) is now cursed. My family has always been the centre of my life. I did everything with family coming first. I always worked hard to "fix" problems and generally could. Now it's collapsing around me and there's nothing I can do to "fix' these things.

I try to be positive and get up each day determined to get on with life but the death of my mum and finding out about LTAs 2 days later was just too much.

The betrayal hit me so hard I guess because I had so much else to deal with. Knowing that while I sat with my dying mum at the hospital H was with whore no 3 telling her how much he loved her has broken my heart.

He apologises over and over - and I believe he means it. His selfishness is what has gotten us to this and this selfishness is what he has to overcome to save us.

I don't know if he can. I pray he can because I need him to help me help the children.

Anyway, 7am here and must get ready for work

HUGS to all

Laura

[This message edited by Laura28 at 3:12 PM, October 12th (Tuesday)]


Married 30yrs Me BW 57Yrs Him FWH 59yrs
OWzero 1988 EA?/PA? Gaslighted.
Dday May 28 2010.
OW1 1994(6mths PA, EA til dday).
OW2 2002(8yrs PA).
OW3 2009(1Yr PA).
Others???? Status: Not Divorcing..but.."You can't unfuck the goat"

Posts: 2729 | Registered: Jul 2010 | From: Australia
Allgoodnamesgone
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Default  Posted: 3:11 PM, October 12th (Tuesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

((Laura))
That's just heartbreaking.
I'm truly sorry.
You & your family are in my prayers (not that I have much pull with the man upstairs,but still...)


Me- BS
DDay- 8/26/09
Separated after failed R effort.

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iwantamiracle
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Default  Posted: 4:15 PM, October 12th (Tuesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

deeppurple:

do you really underdstand her??? or are you taking it upon yourself to come up with the why's that allow you to continue and wait for her?

i am glad that you are in ic, i hope your ic has a voice too....you need feedback, we all need feedback...

i am sorry you lost your mom at such a young age, that sucks...and you seem to be more then a fixer....fixing people i'm thinkin is only a small part of your complexity of why you are staying with your wife....and i do believe that your sich for you is quite complex...not so simple as you might want others to believe...at least that is the impression i am getting....i could be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time...and it certainly won't be the last...

you still after all of what she has obviously put you through have this huge capacity to love this woman in spite of it all....i hope she wakes up and "see's" what she has....


laura: words cannot express my deepest deepest sorries for your childrens illnesses....i cannot imagine the pain...you have been through so so much and yet you are still 'here' so to speak....so i am standing up in awe of your strength, tipping my hat for your fortitude to fight the fight for your kids, for your marriage.....

i do not know what type of woman your mom was, my first belief is that she was an amazing woman and hero for you.....but that would be presumptuous....but that is still my first reaction, mainly because of the woman you are today....and only a woman of that kind of character could produce someone as incredible as yourself...but then i paused and realized my mom is one of those moms who possess that impeccable character and strength, and she is one of those moms who possess that impeccable character in spite of her mother.....

so i do not know how you have the strength but am awed by it....your children are quite fortunate to have you as their mom through this obviously trying time in their lives.....

i don't do merlot, but i will definitely raise my next glass of mudslides tilting it in a nod to you....


i am taking my life back, one step at a time!!!!!

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deeppurple
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Default  Posted: 4:35 PM, October 12th (Tuesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Miracle
I do believe I understand her - there are things I wont discuss here which re-enforce this belief.
I probably am more complex than i let people believe - thats something IC is working on.
Maybe I was a dog in a past life - too loyal for my own good.
Both my heart & my very logical brain say stay. At no stage have I felt the urge to leave or ask her to leave. I'm not sure if I'm on the right track but I believe the acceptance of my 50% of what was wrong in our marriage maybe be why I havent reached that point yet.....just a thought

Laura ...my thoughts are with you.


Me - BS 49
Her - WS 43
Married 16 yrs (together 17 yrs)
DD13 DS10 DS8 DS6
DDay 1 6.4.2010 dday 2 7.25.2010
Heading for divorce.
"Never look down on someone unless you are helping them up"

Posts: 522 | Registered: Jun 2010 | From: Where the sun is shining & the surf is pumping
iwantamiracle
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Default  Posted: 6:15 PM, October 12th (Tuesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

deeppurple:

I believe the acceptance of my 50% of what was wrong in our marriage maybe be why I havent reached that point yet.....just a thought

on this point i have several of my own points:

1...no matter what issues there are in a marriage, no matter how bad the betrayed spouse is as a spouse, cheating is not only the wrong way to go, but is usually the kiss of death to most relationships....that being said there are instances though where i can understand how someone can make that choice.....but its not a choice that can be undone.....and unless you are willing to give up the marriage it is not a choice that should ever be made...

2....you are not responsible for 50% of the issues, you are responsible for 100% of your part as is she responsible for 100% for hers

each spouse should be giving 100% to the marriage, not 50%.....while i understand that its a figure of speech it also sets up the sich....we are all 100% responsible for our own actions....with very few exceptions we are not forced to react the way we do..

...and i do believe that there are definite exceptions to this.....and i also believe that on certain levels when we set about a certain set of circumstances the reactions that follow area are our responsiblity...when i teach my kids about this, i dubbed it the domino affect...one leads to another, usually predictable reactions to what precipitated the final reaction that usually caused the most damage....(for my kids it was usually a broken item belonging to another)

there are very few instances where infidelity to me anyways that would also fit this category, but sometimes you can actually understand the why.....even if you disagree with it....


i also respect your right to privacy and will not further ask for explanation on you understanding her whys...


the only other question i have which may fall into the above would be how does your head say to stay...is it because you feel you do understand her?...iif you cannot answer because of the privacy thing i understand....the heart is easy to understand, but the head usually doesn't agree.....hence lots of bs's on si wondering whether or not to "r"....


i am taking my life back, one step at a time!!!!!

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Sad Petunia
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Default  Posted: 6:15 PM, October 12th (Tuesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hey guys, just wanted to share a bit. I've had two very bad days. My son got in trouble in school. The authorities there have had a totally unproportionate attitude and he was suspended for a day. I have written emails and went to the school myself. Called H to act the father part since I have always been left alone to deal with school stuff. He made an appointment with the principal tomorrow morning.

But he came home last night and I didn't feel he was being as sympathetic as I expected him to be with me. I said let's go out to dinner and relax, so he starts saying, no, I've gained weight, you don't help mee lose it, I can't go on like tgis, bla, bla, bla...I said ok, then ill take a sleeping pill which I did and went to sleep.

Today, I woke up just as upset and sent the Pricipal another email which I copied to him. Didn't hear from him until I sent a text message at 3 pm asking what he wanted for dinner. He calls, we argue, why am I so upset, why did I sen another email, etc. So we hang up and he starts sending these texts, saying how I am passve aggresive with him constantly and always make him feel guilty....WTF? He says I've changed and always make him feel guilty....I said, I'm not a psychiatrista. Awful day.


ME BS:43
HIM WH:46
Married: 18 years
Together: 24 years
2 children 16 and 13
D-day: 09-19-09
2nd D-day: 02-16-2010

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iwantamiracle
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Default  Posted: 6:33 PM, October 12th (Tuesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

petunia:

i think i am missing something...just because ou didn't go out to dinner why not sit down and have a converstaion about it all, his thoughts, your thoughts and collectively discuss what you would do about it...

it sucks when our kids get in trouble and it sucks even more when the the authorities handle is ass backwards....and it definitely does not help if the 2 of you are not on the same page.....

all of his other shit though, is just that...i am sorry petunia that he is not being there for you in both support and your soft place to fall....

how are you 2 doing with mc, and is he in ic too.....sometimes we have to take a step back, breathe and then step back in as calmly as possible....if your childs welfare wasn't hangin on this i would tell you take a big breather...but you cannot, you both need to talk about this....i don't know if you take xanax, or ad's if not maybe have a glass or 2 of wine to just settle you....unless of course liquor does the opposite then no wine....keep breathing....


((petunia))

and remember this day will pass.....they always do....


i am taking my life back, one step at a time!!!!!

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strongish
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Default  Posted: 7:12 PM, October 12th (Tuesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((Honest))) Please stop beating yourself up that you had a mini-meltdown. My goodness...we would all be black and blue if that were the case. Some days you can take the heat, some days not so much. Give yourself a break and remember that you didn't cause this mess...your WH did! You're just the one that has to deal with it.

(((Laura))) Oh my...I'm so, so sorry to hear about your son and now your daughter's illnesses. There is nothing worse than not being able to make your child stop hurting...nothing. Not even infidelity is more difficult than this. My heart breaks for you. Please know that my thoughts and prayers are joining those of the others on this list.

(((Petunia))) We all have bad days, followed by not-so-bad days, followed by bad days, followed by...well, you get the picture. This group accepts each and every one of us no matter where we are on our journey and supports each other in the good times and bad. I am so grateful for this site. It has given me an outlet for my emotions, a safe place to vent and the perspective of others that have walked the same road I am walking. It has been a godsend to me and I think that if you stick with us you will find the same compassion and understanding that I have. Sometimes it just takes one person to help us see that tomorrow may not be so bad and that's the thing that gets us through. Hang in there!

(((tribe)))


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deeppurple
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Default  Posted: 7:17 PM, October 12th (Tuesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Miracle:
Agree on owning the 100% - poor wording on my part.

As to my head - difficult to explain. I have thought thru the pros & cons like an investment i guess. Sometimes when it goes south you believe in fundamentals behind the stock & hold waiting for it to regain its value as its true worth is recognised (i just have data not available to the marketplace).As im only 4 months out from Dday & the situ seems to very fluid at the moment my logic says hold, evaluate the data as it comes to hand then make a decision. I guess all to often we make a judgement based on the first available data eg discovery of the affair & call it quits.I see a WW in total emotional turmoil. She needs time & space to determine where her journey takes her - only she can decide. It is a state of limbo at the moment - i stay because i love her & wish to provide the best home for my young girls. If she chooses otherwise then that is her decision & i will review my options if that occurs.
Not sure if that answers yr question.
PS the logic part of me pisses WW off every so often.


Me - BS 49
Her - WS 43
Married 16 yrs (together 17 yrs)
DD13 DS10 DS8 DS6
DDay 1 6.4.2010 dday 2 7.25.2010
Heading for divorce.
"Never look down on someone unless you are helping them up"

Posts: 522 | Registered: Jun 2010 | From: Where the sun is shining & the surf is pumping
iwantamiracle
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Default  Posted: 10:15 PM, October 12th (Tuesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

deeppurple:

yes you answered my question quite concisely....and i can even understand your wife's feelings towards your logic....

i guess your wife represents the whole package to you.....she is quite lucky although right now i don't think she feels lucky at all....the irony in the sich's where the bs's want "r" and the ws's either don't know how or don't want it....and more often then not i would say by the time the ws's do "see", it is often too late to fix....

i hope your wife "sees" before that point...you are an extremely passionate man, very deep emotions and extraordinary in your compassion...


strong:

We all have bad days, followed by not-so-bad days, followed by bad days, followed by...well, you get the picture

this made me ....mostly because of how true it is...i long for the good days....just the good days...


i am taking my life back, one step at a time!!!!!

Posts: 5994 | Registered: Feb 2009 | From: looking for my rainbow
deeppurple
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Default  Posted: 12:36 AM, October 13th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Miracle
Thank you for yr kinds words. As I read them I reflected on something she said to me earlier in the year that for the past few years I was always angry & she felt I was unapproachable. Ive only felt anger once since dday & I channeled that energy in the pool & gym.
Im not sure if the anger train will stop at my station...


Me - BS 49
Her - WS 43
Married 16 yrs (together 17 yrs)
DD13 DS10 DS8 DS6
DDay 1 6.4.2010 dday 2 7.25.2010
Heading for divorce.
"Never look down on someone unless you are helping them up"

Posts: 522 | Registered: Jun 2010 | From: Where the sun is shining & the surf is pumping
Laura28
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Default  Posted: 1:44 AM, October 13th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hi all

Thanks for your kind thoughts.

i do not know what type of woman your mom was, my first belief is that she was an amazing woman and hero for you

Yes miracle my mum was my role model. My parents were very simple people. Neither had high school education - both left school at age 12. Had menial jobs (mum made beds in a motel and dad worked in a timber mill) but worked and saved hard to give 4 children a very good life. They NEVER went out. In fact the only time I recall them going to a restaurant was for their 30th wedding anniversary. Mum was so excited. They had minimal luxuries and put all they had into making each other and their children happy. My mother to me was perfect. We (dad and the children)all came first. She MADE our clothes, cooked great meals - she was a brilliant if simple cook and doted on her grand children. To me, she was the perfect wife and mother. (I am glad they are both dead and do not know about this. They loved my H - he is a real charmer - and would be heartbroken to know what he has done. I wouldn't have told them anyway - it would have upset them too much)

So when I had these roles - wife and mother- I saw my job as making everyone happy. This is what I'm finding so hard. I tried EVERYTHING to make H happy but he got cranky and he STILL CHEATED. I believe he is so selfish that he couldn't deal with me putting the children first - sometimes- and resented my relationship with them. We have a great relationship because I was always there for them in every way. He on the other hand was often too "busy" (doing his own thing - not necessarily working) to have time for them - to talk or do things with them - and so they weren't as close. I think he resented this (at least subconsciously) and this is why he said he was "lonely". As they grew up and he wanted a relationship with them they were not interested. While I said "They're teenagers - it's not cool to want to be with your mum and dad all the time" he just wanted their time and attention. But it was too late. He had cut himself off from them when they were young.

As well, I believe his guilt over his OWs made him cranky when they were younger and this also turned them away from them.

So it all comes down to his selfishness. He turned his children away because of it and betrayed me because of it. Now he wants it all back - me and the children. Both are being very kind to him since dday but both have told me they wouldn't care if I left him because he's a "dickhead"!!!!

Sad really.

Anyway - need to move on. I am continuing to try to be positive. What else can you do? It's 4.5 months and I hope to continue to feel better every day.

Much depends on H - if he backslides into As or old ways of crankiness. I will NOT tolerate either. My tech toys continue to tell me he is behaving. OW3 is leaving to go overseas in 10 days time. Will be nice to know she will be out of town for a while. With a little luck she will get hit by a bus while away - my pity will be for the driver

H is home tonight so hard to write much. He is coming in from chores outside. Will try to write more later

HUGS

Laura


Married 30yrs Me BW 57Yrs Him FWH 59yrs
OWzero 1988 EA?/PA? Gaslighted.
Dday May 28 2010.
OW1 1994(6mths PA, EA til dday).
OW2 2002(8yrs PA).
OW3 2009(1Yr PA).
Others???? Status: Not Divorcing..but.."You can't unfuck the goat"

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Laura28
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Default  Posted: 1:57 AM, October 13th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hi DP and SP (and any other newbies I've missed)

Welcome to our little corner of SI. The people here are wonderful - they have given me a way of coping with the impossible. I can truly say that without them I could not go on!!! We are all such sad cases and I can see that yours are as well.

HUGS to you both

SP

How can I live like this? Doubting my my past, my present, my future.......

I read this in your profile and thought "Yes - we all feel like this". How do we go on?? But we do. We know that we need to for our families and ourselves. I tell myself constantly "I WILL GET THROUGH THIS" and I will. Whatever comes I WILL SURVIVE!

Be strong - we are here for you. We are all here for each other.

ats

How are you? Worried about you. Please give us an update.

EVERYONE ELSE

I read your posts and sympathise. Wish I had some wise advice for you. All I can say is listen to miracle. She is SO WISE.

I read all of your posts and they help me as I know they help others. Thank you

HUGS to you all

Laura


Married 30yrs Me BW 57Yrs Him FWH 59yrs
OWzero 1988 EA?/PA? Gaslighted.
Dday May 28 2010.
OW1 1994(6mths PA, EA til dday).
OW2 2002(8yrs PA).
OW3 2009(1Yr PA).
Others???? Status: Not Divorcing..but.."You can't unfuck the goat"

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atsenaotie
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Default  Posted: 7:51 AM, October 13th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Good Morning All,

I am doing fine, as is FWW. Are we doing "better"? Only time will tell. I think about her A's less and less and the thoughts are much less troubling. Often, I think about the fact I am not thinking about it.

Will we be able to reconnect and stay together as a couple? She is saying the right things, but actions over the long-term will speak louder than words. I am working hard at identifying what I feel and sharing with her, respecting her needs and mine.

Friday night and again last night we both laughed raucously. I cannot remember the last time we both laughed together with true mirth; it would have been years, maybe a decade (seriously). I am taking this as a good sign, a green shoot of hope that we are succeeding in reaching out and reconnecting.

FWW is working hard to “fix” her internal and external misperceptions that ripped our relationship and lead to her A’s. I often complained that I felt she was a day late and a dollar short of where I expected her to be, but that ignored the fact she was making progress. I am much better at identifying feelings, communicating feelings, and need improvement on depersonalizing and detaching with love when FWW shifts to black or white thinking or projects her feelings onto my actions.

Honest, I have been thinking about you as I keep up on everyone’s sich. I am convinced that you are stronger than you are willing to let yourself believe. A lifetime of exposure to your Mother and WS’s damaged personalities I believe has you questioning your own feelings and abilities. Consider that you are actually much more capable than you feel.

((Laura28)) so much on your plate

I will try to get back later.


LTA BS 53
FWW 60
M 1990, dday 10-5-09
Reconciled

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iwantamiracle
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Default  Posted: 12:54 PM, October 13th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

deeppurple:

Ive only felt anger once since dday & I channeled that energy in the pool & gym.
Im not sure if the anger train will stop at my station...

if it doesn't stop at your station then i'm thinkin one of 2 things....the first being that you had huge anger issues prior or that you will not allow yourself to feel it...

deeppurple do you take on some of the responsiblity for her turning away from the marriage???....

and i apologize for asking so many questions...now and im sure later...


laura: i could have written a good part of your post...the part of our ws's turning away from their families...and now that they "see" the light, the resentment that they feel over our relationships with our kids and their lack of one....

for pfm (my ws) he still does not have a clue how to bridge the gap that he created, and it may very well be too late for him to do that, my mom thinks its too late, my kids are too old now...i still think its possible, but it will never be what it could have been that ship has sailed....but there could still be some kind of relationship based on good as opposed to what it is based on which is pfm's warped daddying.....

and like you if i see shades of that man he used to be, he's gone....

and kudo's laura for posting to others...not an easy task more for the amount of overwhelming info here and in your life....


ats: i do worry about you...take it really really slow...



i am taking my life back, one step at a time!!!!!

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deeppurple
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Default  Posted: 4:47 PM, October 13th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Miracle (not a problem)
My anger was more about coping with the stresses of everyday life - balancing the budget at home to pay the bills; being on call at work 24/7 etc.
Ive changed that & am now in control & much much happier.

I certainly take responsability for turning her away. Her father had multiple affairs when she & her sister were young. Parents eventually divorced. The last few years Ive been working very long hours (excess of 90hrs /wk)(In hindsight I liken my absence at work to her fathers affairs - the missing mnale figure in her life. I havent been there to support her as she has basically raised our girls by herself. Ive stopped the long hours; home for dinner,make time with the girls - bathtime, dinner, homework, playtime, bedtime reading etc & I make time to talk to her ..about anything so that we can build that connection again. I cant believe that Im so close to the girls now & I know that they appreciate Im there for them.

As parents we are a great team. We work well together & understand each other in that regard. We just dont have at this point in time a close emotional connection.

time will tell...


Me - BS 49
Her - WS 43
Married 16 yrs (together 17 yrs)
DD13 DS10 DS8 DS6
DDay 1 6.4.2010 dday 2 7.25.2010
Heading for divorce.
"Never look down on someone unless you are helping them up"

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deeppurple
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Default  Posted: 4:49 PM, October 13th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Laura
I googled Tambourine - looks magical.


Me - BS 49
Her - WS 43
Married 16 yrs (together 17 yrs)
DD13 DS10 DS8 DS6
DDay 1 6.4.2010 dday 2 7.25.2010
Heading for divorce.
"Never look down on someone unless you are helping them up"

Posts: 522 | Registered: Jun 2010 | From: Where the sun is shining & the surf is pumping
iwantamiracle
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Default  Posted: 6:14 PM, October 13th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

deeppurple:

how old are your girls?

i am so happy for your daughters that you developed a relationship with them....it is so so important, they will grow up and more then likely marry their dad....most girls do...in one respect or another, we marry the old wounds of the past, without realizing we are doing it, we marry these wounds and try really hard to reconcile with them in some way....for me it was making me a priority....so i married a man who did not do this....i don't know where the rest of the shit came from.... ...

it is what it is...


i am taking my life back, one step at a time!!!!!

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deeppurple
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Default  Posted: 6:25 PM, October 13th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Miracle
My princesses are 10,8 & 6.
They grow up way too fast.


Me - BS 49
Her - WS 43
Married 16 yrs (together 17 yrs)
DD13 DS10 DS8 DS6
DDay 1 6.4.2010 dday 2 7.25.2010
Heading for divorce.
"Never look down on someone unless you are helping them up"

Posts: 522 | Registered: Jun 2010 | From: Where the sun is shining & the surf is pumping
iwantamiracle
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Default  Posted: 6:40 PM, October 13th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

deeppurple: fabulous ages...pre-puberty....and truly great ages for developing a really good bond with dad....

remember, they will marry their dads, so become who you would like to see them marry....although i have this little itty bitty birdie that tells me you already have...


i am taking my life back, one step at a time!!!!!

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