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SabinatheOwl
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Sad  Posted: 9:18 AM, July 9th (Saturday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Repost from general for support. I've not been down here in a while. I'm reeling from new discoveries & new information & have been licking my wounds so to speak.


Update to my previous thread:
http://www.survivinginfidelity.com/forums.asp?tid=414823&HL=30023

While we were eating at the local pancake place I finally pulled myself together & brought up the contraband item I discovered. Initiating 'the talk' in a public place means hes less likely to make a scene. Verbatim, SAWH's answers when I asked him (my exact words), "What's the story about the contraband item I found in the medicine closet?" *My replies in between stars.*

1. That's not what it is.

*I have the bottle. I poured it out. Yes, it's ________.*

2. I don't remember.

*I don't believe you.*

3. It must be old; from when I worked on other unit. (translation: before Feb.-March 2010).

*Don't even try that one, you know I clean out the medicine cabinet on a regular basis.*

4. I don't take it. I've weaned myself off of all my other medications. I'm not using it.

*silence*

I told him I don't believe him. Calmly. At least I spoke to him about it. I brought up my concern about him, about having such an item with the kids at home & such a powerful & addictive med., that the circumstances potentially make it a reportable offense, the potential job loss, licensing issues, etc. I told him I'm concerned.

He yelled at me for not letting him speak and for only bringing issues up when it's late. He wouldn't look me in the eye. The remainder of what he said is listed above.

Yeah- he's completely lame and obviously thinks I'm a stupid
cow. I mean, "I don't remember." *REALLY??!!* Jackass. I don't know how much further I need to pursue this, beyond continuing regular hunts for more 'contraband'.

Thoughts, 2x4s, ideas, hugs?

I'm continuing the job search full tilt and will move out ASAP after I'm hired. Unless I can get him to leave first (after I'm working). I have more financial documents added into my safe deposit box.

~ Sabina

edited for clarity


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"Live a life not an apology." Edward R.Murrow

"I can be changed by what happens to me but I refuse to be reduced by it."

Maya Angelou


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SabinatheOwl
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What?  Posted: 9:51 AM, July 9th (Saturday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hugs to tmy for your good news! And hugs to everyone else struggling with their spouse's SA and related issues.


I really don't have any wisdom or advice to offer right now. My SA has just passed his 1 year diagnosis mark and totally denies his SA, his dry alcoholism, everything. In addition he's currently ramping up in a big way, complete with a new issue added to the mix.

All I can say is take good care of yourself, see a CSAT or addiction specialist just for you, practice strong self care, detach emotionally, and most of all, actively prepare for the 'worst case scenario'. Remember Aesop's fable about the grasshopper and the ant? Don't be the grasshopper. Authentic recovery takes a huge, huge commitment from both of you as individuals. Not everyone has what it takes.

I'm sorry if I'm depressing or frightening people, but this is a really tough, tough addiction to gain recovery from.


Hope everyone can grab a peaceful moment to themselves this weekend!

~ Sabina


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"Live a life not an apology." Edward R.Murrow

"I can be changed by what happens to me but I refuse to be reduced by it."

Maya Angelou


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MissMovingOn
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Default  Posted: 6:44 PM, July 9th (Saturday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

In my last post I was saying that WH's counsellor had decided that WH was not SA but that was after WH had given him only 2/3rds of the story (probably really more like less than half now that I think about it more)... We had our first joint appointment with the counsellor this week and I laid out more of the story and now the counsellor is saying that with the new info and what they had discussed previously that WH is SA. We didn't talk recovery plans at all but we have another appointment on Tuesday and that's topic number one on my list.

He suggested I look into S-Anon which I did and was really surprised to find there is apparently a meeting in my city. I e-mailed for more information. Funny thing is there is an S-Anon meeting but no SA meeting. Or SAA. Are there any other 12 step groups for SAs?

I signed up for the COSA Yahoo group and I'm waiting for my membership to be approved. I'm also very slowly working through the RN Partner's workshop.

It's still all overwhelming but I do feel like I'm starting to be able to breathe again a little. I've been reading a lot which helps. I've got one book on my Kobo app that I'm reading at work on breaks and two more in print that I'm reading at home - all from the recommended reading at the beginning of this thread.


Me: BS, 34
Him: (SA/NPD)WH, 31
Multiple ddays since 2010 (Latest January 15th 2013) - not counting anymore!
Left me for 20 yr old COW. Moving on!

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SabinatheOwl
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Default  Posted: 8:34 AM, July 10th (Sunday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hugs BWinBc. SA is truly a lot to take in, as the 12 step groups say take it 1 day at a time and forward progress not perfection. Other resources I looked up online:

http://www.sca-recovery.org/

Sexual Compulsives Anonymous

http://www.sexualrecovery.org/

Sexual Recovery Anonymous

Good luck with the session this week, keep us posted.


~ Sabina


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"Live a life not an apology." Edward R.Murrow

"I can be changed by what happens to me but I refuse to be reduced by it."

Maya Angelou


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MissMovingOn
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Default  Posted: 12:52 PM, July 10th (Sunday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thanks Sabina. No luck with those organizations either.

SAWH told me this morning that for now he's not planning on engaging in any recovery work that his counsellor doesn't direct him to and his counsellor told me to find a 12-step group and not him.

*sigh*

I'm going to bring that up on Tuesday and see what the counsellor says.


Me: BS, 34
Him: (SA/NPD)WH, 31
Multiple ddays since 2010 (Latest January 15th 2013) - not counting anymore!
Left me for 20 yr old COW. Moving on!

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TooManyYears
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Default  Posted: 4:34 PM, July 10th (Sunday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

ScribblingMum,

Big huge HUGS!!! I wish I lived closer, so I could give you some support IRL. You have been through SO much. You DO belong here. As I have told you before, you have a lot of wisdom to share.

I did read your whole post before you edited it, and I am not sure why you did. As a side note, I do read much more often than I post. I was at work all weekend, and I do not ever post from work. I wouldn't want to leave myself logged in by accident.

I actually agree wholeheartedly with your message, and I know that you wrote it out of love with concern. That is why I am so hesitant to post things like that. I don't want to give anyone (myself included) false hope. Living with an addict does contain a risk, the very real possibility of slips and relapses. I do see very real changes in my H at this point. He is channeling all that energy that he used to spend on his addiction (who had any idea the HOURS per day that they spend on this?) into his job, our house, his recovery, and our relationship. Sometimes I am amazed at how much he gets accomplished. A coworker, who doesn't know about his SA, told me just this week that he always seemed so lazy, and thought it was great that he was doing so much. He also got a raise and promotion at work this week. I think not goofing off online surfing porn during working hours has made him so much more productive, duh!

With that I offer the caveat that I know that SA is so tough to beat, and maintains a high level of commitment to recovery. I am so very fortunate that early on in our marriage I realized that being a SAHM was a bad idea for me, and I pursued a degree and career. I have many options if things go south, and when we were separated, I knew I could do it. I feel really bad for you SM, and all the SAHM's on this journey. None of you knew it would be like this. We all trusted blindly.

As terrible as it sounds, I have encouraged my children never to depend on someone else for income. There are too many bad things that can happen, as we have all found out. I know that SM you have potential. You are a smart lady. I know you have been through so much, but you are a survivor, even if you don't feel it. You can make a new start in life. I know how hard it is. I am in IC. I am pretty darn screwed up. And I can't just point the finger at my H. There is a lot I have to figure out yet in life, too. We will get there.

Keep posting, SM. We do love you like a sister and care. You belong here.


Me- 40
H, rSA- 46
2 young adult children
Married 21 years
Last D-day 9/19/09 (Many before this)

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TooManyYears
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Default  Posted: 4:43 PM, July 10th (Sunday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

SabinatheOwl,

Hugs dear! Always glad to see you here supporting others.

As for your situation, you don't need 2x4's but love. You are already doing everything you need to. You are taking care of yourself, you are in IC, you are actively working on your exit plan. Keep taking care of you. YOU ARE WORTH IT!!!! You are worth so much more than any of this. You will be ok.


Me- 40
H, rSA- 46
2 young adult children
Married 21 years
Last D-day 9/19/09 (Many before this)

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TooManyYears
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Default  Posted: 4:50 PM, July 10th (Sunday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

BWinBC,

SAWH told me this morning that for now he's not planning on engaging in any recovery work that his counsellor doesn't direct him to and his counsellor told me to find a 12-step group and not him.

I don't find this sort of response very reassuring. It does not speak to me of an addict that wants to put in a full effort into recovery. If he actively wants to engage in recovery, he should be exploring all possible resources (and without you prompting him).

I would bring this up in counseling. I forget, are you seeing a CSAT? I am glad you have found an S-Anon group. It is so empowering and nurturing to attend a group. I remember crying at my first meeting, with relief, because I had felt so isolated for so many years.

As for SA or SAA, they are not always held in the same town as S-Anon. He may have to travel to a neighboring town. I am not sure where you live what resources are available.

I am not sure with the lying to the counselor and the lack of initiative that your WH is truly invested in recovery at this time. He may be just doing what he needs to, to appease you. My H did that several times in the last 10 years. They really have to hit rock bottom, and everyone's rock bottom is different. Time will tell. Trust your gut, and take care of YOU.


Me- 40
H, rSA- 46
2 young adult children
Married 21 years
Last D-day 9/19/09 (Many before this)

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sager
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Default  Posted: 7:49 PM, July 10th (Sunday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Well, it's been a devistating weekend. Since his relaps I have asked my SAH is there was anything more to the story. As late as Thursday, I asked the same thing. Each time, he said, "No, you know everything." Found out that it was a bold face lie.

In addition to sharing that he was caught masterbating at work, he once again was visiting a prostitute. He has assured me that I now know all there is to know.

Well, compared to the first time there was such a revalation, I'm doing really, really well. Had a good cry with my sister and have been very careful to stay in the present.. not projecting forward or backward. Lots of yoga breathing too. Oh, and lots of physical exercise going up and down the ladder painting the outside of the house.

I'm not sure what to make of all of this. He appears from all signs to be in a committed recovery. The prostitute was certainly before he lost his job and for the first time ever, he appears to understand exactly what damage he has done to our relationship, our love, my trust. He also seems to have much clearer insight into his behavior and how ill his thinking was when he was deep into the addiction. All good signs that were not present in his previous recovery attempts.

On the other hand..... there is the anger, rage and fury that at this point, isn't even close to the surface. Intellectually, I now that's how I feel (or maybe should feel???) but it's just not there. But there is deep, deep sadness - for him, for me, for our family.

And inspite of it all, I'm still glad that this human being is my husband. And i'm not sure where that is coming from either.....

Any ways, I have lots to think about. I am stregthened by the knowledge that no matter how this turns out, I'm going to be a better person from it.

Sager

It's another week until I see my IC (who is also his IC and also sees us jointly).


married 21 yr.
d-day #1 8/17/01
d-day #2 7/9/11
3 children - 20, 18, and 16
H in addiction recovery
"Well-behaved women do not make history."

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ScribblingMum
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Frustrated  Posted: 8:08 PM, July 10th (Sunday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

TooManyTears:

Thanks for your support...:)

I also raised my older dd to have a career/education, etc. WAAAAY BEFORE our lives fell apart (she went to a fab private all-girls HS which promoted leadership/independence).
She has graduated from college & is working as a research assist./psychology...um, & wants her Ph.D, so she has many more years to go! Now, my special needs other child is a whole 'nother story...ahem.

I just need to get through my younger dd's last year of home school/graduation next year. Trying to get WELL enough right now...
My dd is here w/ me right now for the summer at my mom's house...I'm doing some make-up school w/ her.
ONE day/hour at a time!

I NEED to go back to Al-Anon for sure! There's no S-Anon close here...maybe in Sacramento...but that's 50 min away.
I LOVE Al-Anon though, so that's better than nothing!

I'll try & post more...STILL waiting for dumbarse WH to put dd on his insurance...he just can't seem to get-around-to-it---OY!


~ScribblingMum~
D-D 1: 12/23/06 - Porn (dd bust him on-line)
D-D 2: 4-25-08 - Massage P.'s(new act. in pretend recov.)
D-D 3:9-9-08 Caught call m. girl
D-Day 4: 6/30/09 -: free MP g.f./prost.
D-Day 5: 1-10-10: new mp prost's.
~DONE!


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Mamato3
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Default  Posted: 8:50 AM, July 11th (Monday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

{{{{sager}}}}

I'm so sorry. That's a lot to take in and handle. But I know what you mean about still being glad that you're married to this man. We can still feel so much love for our husbands even though their actions hurt us. Perhaps it's because we know intellectually that they have a disease. And yet it's still a hard concept to take in emotionally. It makes for a not so fun roller coaster ride. :(

I'm glad you're doing so well though in handling the information and getting through the weekend. Sometimes that's all we can do for the moment - just get through it. And it's so impressive that you've been able to stay in the present rather than focus on the past or future. (That's one of my weaknesses, but I'm working on it.) Just sending big hugs! You're so strong!

--------

I had some bad triggers this weekend, but actually managed to work my way through them back to the present. I'm proud of how we're doing NOW, so I'm trying to give us both some credit for that. Still, sometimes it scares the crap out of me to think about the past (again, it's my weakness). I think I still have some anger that I just never released during the last DDay. Sigh.


Me - BW - 38
Him - FWH (and SA) - 39
2DDs (8&1), 2DSs (6&3)
1st D-day: 09.13.10 (admitted to EA)
2nd D-day: 01.31.11 (admitted to PA; almost two years with CW)
3rd D-day: 02.01.11 (admitted to more)
Working our SA/SAnon program

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sager
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Default  Posted: 7:08 PM, July 11th (Monday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I had an emergency visit with my IC today. Figured i needed it since I sat down at my desk at work and started crying. Glad some feelings are starting to come to the surface. The therapist says I'm exactly where I should be given what is happening. The numbness i feel is a defense mechanism to keep me from totally falling apart... I guess this time the feelings will come out a little at a time instead of the large explosion like last time.

The most important thing he said was to be true to myself and continue to be honest with my H. that, and i don't need to make any decisions today.

I'm just really tired... so off to fold some laundry and go to bed.


married 21 yr.
d-day #1 8/17/01
d-day #2 7/9/11
3 children - 20, 18, and 16
H in addiction recovery
"Well-behaved women do not make history."

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Default  Posted: 3:03 AM, July 12th (Tuesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hugs to all, especially sager with this new development. Your quot a while back was actually part of my wedding vows, so I especially took that to heart. Many days I want to give up on him, but reminders like that tell me to stick it out a little longer.

I like our mc. I have had one ic with her since the initial joint session, and I can tell from what I have read here she appears to be onthe right path for my healing and getting to the root of wh/diagnosed properly. I am guessing we will still meet jointly some, to help withhis full disclosure, outlining my boundaries, how to lessen the impact of this on our children, etc as opposed to traditional mc, which you all know is not possible at this point. I feel hopeful about that.

However he is still in a fog and acting like we are in r. But i cant help wht he does and dont want to discourage him from any progress at this point.

Tomorrow i get checked for stds and go to a legal seminar that explores my options. I have already broached the subject of setting up an account in my name only with enough money to leave, as well as exploring a post nup so we dont have to worry about a nasty d down the line, and he is agreeable. Sigh. I am glad he is cooperating but I wish I didnt have to take all the initiative.


BS 43, SAWH 38. M 15years, together 17. Body count in the triple digits. Both in recovery, trying to R.
Three kids under age 11.

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SabinatheOwl
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Default  Posted: 9:36 AM, July 12th (Tuesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hugs sager. I'm glad you were able to talk with your IC.

I hope everyone else can find a moment of peace today.

~ Sabina


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"Live a life not an apology." Edward R.Murrow

"I can be changed by what happens to me but I refuse to be reduced by it."

Maya Angelou


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sager
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Default  Posted: 7:03 PM, July 12th (Tuesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thanks to all for the hugs. I'm getting through and am thankful for all support. Still going between crippling anxiety and absolute numbness. I may feel better once SAH decides to resign his job or continue with the arbitration. The case is weak and he has little chance of winning, but the deal his employeer has offered for resignation is hardly worth it. So it just may be worth rolling the dice. But it is his decision and he has to live with whatever choice he makes.
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BWinBc - how did you make out in IC today. I hope you find the guidance you were seeking. It is especially difficult (or maybe impossible) to live with a SAWH that refuses the path of true recovery. I really hope he sees the light before it's too late.

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Sabina - how is the job hunt going? I read your whole story tonight. I guess your H has multiple addictions? I would hope that since he is in the helping profession, his employer will do something the "help". Unfortunately, for some, it is the loss of a job and all that goes with it, that actually puts them on the path of recovery. It is when they finally hit bottom because often their whole identity is wrapped up in the profession. I pray he chooses a different path and sees the light before it gets to that point.

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TMY - sounds like things with the hubby are going well. You are right about false hope and your warning about the difficulty of the SA road. Some people believe the risks are worth it, and some do not. Right now, I'm not in a great position to judge where I fall. But I find hope in your story.

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I do find I am much more tired than usual. I think it is the stress, although I have a health condition that can make me tired and my blood work didn't come back too well. I need to find a way to back away from the pressure cooker for a bit. Unfortunately, i can't even afford to take a sick day for weeks, cause i have the boss from hell.

So maybe tonight the laundry might be folded.

Hugs to all....


married 21 yr.
d-day #1 8/17/01
d-day #2 7/9/11
3 children - 20, 18, and 16
H in addiction recovery
"Well-behaved women do not make history."

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SabinatheOwl
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Morning everyone. Had a horrible night- which is my fault as I stepped over my own boundary and then I paid the price. I guess I'm a slow learner, but I just can't seem to hold this boundary no matter the emotional price I pay for it. I know this stems from FOO issues & CSAb, but Jeez. I know that my poor boundary maintenance on this issue feeds directly into SAWH's power plays and manipulations of me- so the more I can maintain this boundary the better off I'll be all the way 'round. I've got to build my strength on this one, I simply can't keep doing this. However, I'm reasonably ok this a.m. Surfing & chatting with my kids and recouping. I journaled in the middle of the night so I feel better. And I recognize my own part in this, which always helps me feel stronger (that I'm able to see my part in our dysfunction) because it means I'm growing in self awareness and I'm changing into a healthier person.

@ sager~

The job hunt is going ok, I was stalled for a while after the training program ended due to fear & upset from DDay #3 (which was 3 days later). I submitted 3 resumes yesterday and I'm scheduled to attend a career fair tomorrow afternoon. I've been a SAHM for a while and I anticipate being unemployed for a while due to the gaps in my resume. I'm hopeful though. It'll all gel eventually. I have faith.

As for SAWH, he's a dry alcoholic and he's a diagnosed SA. Since last December he's denied both issues. There is a new issue in the mix but I'm still unsure what's going on with that one.


Hugs to all~ Sabina


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"I can be changed by what happens to me but I refuse to be reduced by it."

Maya Angelou


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ScribblingMum
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Default  Posted: 12:30 AM, July 14th (Thursday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Oh God Help Me.
I called my SA WH to talk to him about our dd & his phone answered accidentally...I overheard an entire conversation of him & the usual Asian prostitute...negotiating prices, actually. I finally hung up. So sick to my stomach. I KNOW this is what he does & won't stop & he knows I know & admits it, but all I could think of was WHAT IF it was our dd that had called and accidentally heard this shit?
I'm so sick & can't stop crying. WH called me just now & I told him what happened. He was quiet then ramped into BLAME ME for our marriage mode...so sick. He's soooo fucked up & sick. He STILL hasn't put our dd on his med insurance...just not a priority even though he says he's gonna do it.
He's spending soooo much $$$$ on his addiction & barely paying the bills.

I feel so stuck right now. My dd is here w/ me at my mom's house for the summer...so WH is just going downhill faster & faster being alson/no kid accountability.

I really HATE him. Especially that he still blames me & everyone else.

I need a HUG...


~ScribblingMum~
D-D 1: 12/23/06 - Porn (dd bust him on-line)
D-D 2: 4-25-08 - Massage P.'s(new act. in pretend recov.)
D-D 3:9-9-08 Caught call m. girl
D-Day 4: 6/30/09 -: free MP g.f./prost.
D-Day 5: 1-10-10: new mp prost's.
~DONE!


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SabinatheOwl
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Sad  Posted: 9:02 AM, July 14th (Thursday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Oh, Scribblingmum, I'm so sorry. I don't have any words of wisdom to offer- just big hugs. Maybe try to reach out to people IRL for support? Journal?

SA really really sucks.

~ Sabina

[This message edited by SabinatheOwl at 9:04 AM, July 14th (Thursday)]


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Default  Posted: 9:19 AM, July 14th (Thursday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

The numbness i feel is a defense mechanism to keep me from totally falling apart... I guess this time the feelings will come out a little at a time instead of the large explosion like last time.

Sager, this is me, too. I haven't posted lately. I don't want to update my status with another DDay. Even that is too hard, and yet it's happened. Another prostitute. I am reeling. I can't leave. I have an appointment with a domestic abuse counselor today and I am looking for a place to go where I can get the help I need. I'm so weak. I have to get better.

I read all of your posts and I wish I could hug each and every one of you. One step at a time.


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Default  Posted: 9:57 AM, July 14th (Thursday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hugs compartmented. I'm so sorry this is happening again. I too lurk a lot when I'm overwhelmed with life, so you've company there. I wish your SAWH treasures you as much as I do- you've reached out to me when I really needed support & I'm happy to return a helping hand. Take care of yourself. Post what happened when you're ready. We're always here to listen.

More hugs~

Sabina


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