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User Topic: Long Term Affair - Part 27
deeppurple
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Default  Posted: 10:46 PM, November 13th (Sunday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Ats - sorry to hear thast you've reached this decision - its not as if you havent tried.

initially it will cause problems, but it offers the opportunity for a real loving relationship sometime in the future and puts an end to the limbo of this one

Its what I'm dong now - giving myself a chance.


Me - BS 49
Her - WS 43
Married 16 yrs (together 17 yrs)
DD13 DS10 DS8 DS6
DDay 1 6.4.2010 dday 2 7.25.2010
Heading for divorce.
"Never look down on someone unless you are helping them up"

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worst-year-ever
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Default  Posted: 10:59 PM, November 13th (Sunday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

((((DP & ATS))))

I was just talking to a friend who's divorce finalized a few weeks ago. It was a VERY long time coming, planned years in advance, amicable almost all the time. They stayed married for many years for agreed upon reasons that had nothing at all to do with wanting to be married to each other anymore.

And yet, she was a wreck when the papers finally came through. She couldn't understand why, and after talking for a while, we both realized that she wasn't just mourning her marriage, in large part, she was mourning the idea of marriage in the first place. The idea of happily ever after. The idea of til death do us part.

Infidelity. It blows.

You are in my thoughts, both of you.

In WYE land, the news continues to get worse. They have to take everything below the knee and her other foot is showing signs of trouble now.

How am I going to do this all???


Me: BW
Him: FWH
4 kids & 20 years together
DD: 7/7/11
OW1: 3yr+ LTA
OW2: My xBFF
Trying to R

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Ellejay
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Default  Posted: 12:15 AM, November 14th (Monday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

WYE - (((((Hugs))))) and more ((((Hugs))))

ATS - Had time to read your posts too. I can't relate to the taking care of everything sich, being the one who people lean on. I've done it all my life, I've enabled so much, I've been walked over. Now time to hand over the responsibility to someone else, namely them.

DP - Wishing you strength as you progress fowards through your decision.


Peace to everyone else. Its a long road well travelled.


Ellejay


Married 25 years now divorced.
D-Day: 20/11/10
Me: 48.5 plus 10% GST
Him: mental age 6 (apologies to all 6 year olds)
Betrayal: Who cares anymore?

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Default  Posted: 9:17 AM, November 14th (Monday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

WYE.. So sorry to hear about all you continue to go through. I cannot imagine... but alway remember to be a little selfish and do things for yourself.

ATS and DP... I say, keep moving forward. My W has always been so good after her mistakes and you both deserve a partner who will love you like you need.

njgal480 and UK... Thanks for you comments. I was able to discuss with my mom at lenght. You fine ladies and my mom are about the only women I can learn from.

My W and I had one of the most wonder Saturday nights. All my doing to be romantic. It was great. I just wonder how much of my feelings are due to some sort of idealized image of what a good sexual relationship is about. I don’t want my W to feel like she is just a “hole”. I try and act accordingly and appropriately never to get to that point where she feels like that.

But something is missing and something is not at peace with me. It all has to do with my belief, and maybe false belief??? that many woman make the first move, initiate every once in a while, want and need to have sex with someone they care about. I see it in the movies, I read about so many woman here, in the books I read, on TV… Do I have a W that has zero attraction to me. She says yes, but my confidence is lacking because I ask her to please try and initiate because this will give me good feelings, then a day or two later, she does seem to try, but when she does it seems faked.

Maybe, I need to accept that it a man’s responsibility to initiate, and yes, it is me that wants this all the time and maybe this hole thing may be about my own self-esteem. As I look back at our whole M, I was always the one who started sex. My W proves to me all the time she still wants us, wants the M, and she seems to always act accordingly, but it shown with other things, not sex.

I think I still have much insecurity. I know this is the results and consequences of her infidelity. Sex seemed so important to me as she loved giving it to OM. She has told me OM was always the one who started everything too, but I have convinced myself she lies to protect me. Sex may mean “that” much to me in showing me because I am using it as some sort of tool to get confidence.

Maybe this is my last hurdle toward true happiness in my own mind. If I could somehow overcome, accept, be satisfied, with this I would not have these thoughts and feelings I need to be with another woman. Maybe I should have S’d and gone out and experienced sex with some woman. The doubts in my mind.

My single friends tell me about so many woman that “come-on” to them. It makes them feel so good. But they search too for that relationship aspect, that aspect I have in my M, yet that other part has somehow managed to elude me.

What can I do? Communicate again and again I suppose.


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ImNellNow
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Default  Posted: 10:03 AM, November 14th (Monday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

deep and ats,
Hugs to you both, brothers.

deep,

I want female friendship, a companion, a lover ...its selfish...

NONE of that is selfish. That is what you deserve, and what makes a good marriage and partnership. If you don't have that, you have, at best, a roommate who you are legally obligated to financially support.

WYE,
I'm so sorry to hear about your mom's continued medical distress. Please please try to be gentle with yourself and, as others have said, lean on your WH to help you. In fact, give him about twice as much responsibility as you think you should. You're another one of those nurturers who needs to be nurtured right now, and it goes against the grain but it's necessary for your survival.

tryn,
I was thinking about this subject today on my way into work (sex/initiating). I've talked to you about this before. My point of view remains unchanged.

Okay, the golf injury story... Evil Nell wishes she could see it on YouTube.

WH was trying to make sense of D this weekend, many conversations about "was it X?" "is it because of Y?" Bits and pieces of our life together that were little pieces of straw in the stack. Unfortunately, there was no giant piece of straw tottering up at the top that I could point to and say THAT is the reason! Anyway, we're still amicable, he's still leaning on me, and we're going to sit down with a glass of wine tonight and go through the legal documents tonight. Should be depressing but low-key.

I got slightly panicky this weekend when I considered Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years, etc. and D in the middle of it, but settled myself down. I've been breaking things into small pieces and tackling one thing per day. Yesterday was going through job postings for me. Today is setting up a session with a counselor for the Boyos with WH and me. That part is killing me! And then signing all the legal documents. Tomorrow is dropping all the documents with my lawyer so his paralegal can file. (Oddly, his paralegal is my age and also going through an amicable divorce.)


BS & D
Drinking wine and thinking bliss is on the other side of this.

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Default  Posted: 11:55 AM, November 14th (Monday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

((((((ATS, DP, WYE, Nell, Tryn and everyone else))))))

Maybe it's the time of year but it seems there is so much of a downward slide to many of our tribes lives including my own. I wanted to let each of you know that I am praying and thinking of you in each of your incredibly tough situations. We will all make it. Our lives have been all been sent down a path none of us would have chosen but take heart that we have each other to walk with on the journey. We are not alone unless we choose to be.

jollum


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worst-year-ever
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Default  Posted: 12:43 PM, November 14th (Monday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hi there....quickly popping in before I head back to the hospital.

Now her other leg is showing signs of trouble. Really???

Feeling overwhelmed and helpless right now.


Me: BW
Him: FWH
4 kids & 20 years together
DD: 7/7/11
OW1: 3yr+ LTA
OW2: My xBFF
Trying to R

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trynhard
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Default  Posted: 1:41 PM, November 14th (Monday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

worst-year-ever... hoping that even going through all this you can try and take some time for yourself. I hope your H is loving you and it is ok to share your fears, your hurt, your feelings to you H about your mom.

Nell, I can't remember your last advice?

I heard on the radio men are being feed the "feminization of America" or the end of being "masculine" left only to the man and to beleive that a woman should be aggressive sexually and that it is wrong to believe you must have this. Woman have different roles to play. It is the man's duty to accept a woman sexuality is one of needing "Foreplay starts with words" kinda stuff. And "everyday" mentality is ridiculous and selfish. A woman is not that! Men Are from Mars Women Are from Venus thing..

Oh well Peace to all.

[This message edited by trynhard at 1:49 PM, November 14th (Monday)]


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forgivenotforget
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Default  Posted: 1:59 PM, November 14th (Monday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Quickly dropping in to send extra hugs to all who are struggling. I agree, Jollum, it's been especially tough lately for many of us. Your post was so heartwarming and we should all try to remember what you've said when times get tough.
take heart that we have each other to walk with on the journey

ATS & DP - Thinking of you both as you move in this direction. You have both done all that you can to give your wives the chance to become the spouse you need and deserve. In this, neither of you should ever doubt yourselves.

WYE - I am so sorry to hear about your mother. I do hope the hospital has a social worker or some other major support person for you both after the surgery. I can only imagine how heartbreaking this must be.
(((WYE)))
Tryn - now you will probably be resistent to my suggestion (or maybe you've tried this before) but why not abstain for a while and see if your W comes to you. Have you ever tried this approach?? How long would you be willing to wait??
I am in my 50's and my drive has definitely been affected but it still lives, it's just not as demanding as when I was in my younger years. Please don't take your W's lack of initiation as personal. Also, you mentioned that she went back on AD's. Maybe once she starts to feel the effects, she'll be in a better place.
You mention your friends who have women coming on to them. Well of course this happens with new relationships but when couples have been together for many years (how long have you been married?) it is natural for sex to be less frequent IMHO. You see articles posted all the time about this.
You and your wife have been doing so well in all other aspects of your M so maybe you need to pull back a little in this area and let her come to you. Hopefully you'll be pleasantly surprised.

Nell - wishing you luck tonight and especially with your "boyos." I was a little confused though by your H's questions. Haven't you given him opportunities to address your needs in the M? Doesn't he realize that a LTA takes time to recover from and a daily commitment from the WS to show they are willing to do everything in their power to help you recover? I am always amazed by S's who think there is some "quick fix" to a LTA.
Is there hope for your M if your H finally makes a serious commitment to R?

Hugs to the tribe!


D-day - 12/23/05 LTA - 8 years.
"Love's a matter of trust and I just want to believe in us." M McBride

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ImNellNow
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tryn,
My last "advice" wasn't so much advice as a general POV that initiating/wanting sex is a charged issue for women, but that a wife whose needs in that area are less than her husband's (hello, I'd like to introduce myself as that wife) has a responsibility to get over herself and see initiation as a loving gesture, one that is on the same level as words of affirmation, etc. It may not seem "spontaneous" or "natural" to do it. But if it's a need of your partner, you offer it as a loving gift. Is my two cents.

jollum,
Hear, hear! (Or is it here, here?)

fnf,

Haven't you given him opportunities to address your needs in the M?

Yes. Abundant opportunities, actually. With detailed directions and much ado made over every small step. The stuff that is not easy for him is ignored, and even the easy stuff is tossed aside after a short while.
Doesn't he realize that a LTA takes time to recover from and a daily commitment from the WS to show they are willing to do everything in their power to help you recover?

You would have to ask him. He never did finish any of the books on infidelity I gave him, and he did make a few comments along the way about separating for the 2 to 5 years I would need to recover. So perhaps he knows.
Is there hope for your M if your H finally makes a serious commitment to R?

I don't know. I haven't been given the opportunity to find out. He has a lot of existing issues that would make R a failing proposition even if he followed the WS checklist to the letter.


BS & D
Drinking wine and thinking bliss is on the other side of this.

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Default  Posted: 5:39 PM, November 14th (Monday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Nell- I'm sorry that your WH did not want to make the effort to R.
I've said it before but I do believe that in the future he will regret his actions both during the LTA and after d-day. He will regret it all....
It sounds like you are doing all you can to help the boyos adjust to the news.
I will keep you in my prayers.

WYE- So sorry for what your mom is going through.Asking the hospital social worker for help and advice is a good idea. They should be able to help you plan for all of her future needs.
And..if you are not in IC I would suggest you go.
I needed years of IC to help me recover from the LTA. It was also helpful for me to be able to discuss other family issues as well.

Ats- You have tried really hard to make this work.
Frankly, I don't know how you did it. The only reason that I was able to R was because my FWH showed such extreme remorse and such a strong willingness to work on the marriage.Anything less would not have worked for me.
I will continue to send good thoughts your way-hopefuly you will get the new job-that will be the fresh start that you may need to start feeling better about yourself.

DP- Sending good thoughts your way.

Tryin- I think the over the top-super aggressive women that you hear about are not the norm.
Well..they are the norm in some situations. I think the media, porn, etc. has created this fantasy expectation. And... some women think that if they pursue men in a sexually aggressive way then they will 'reel them in'.
My guess is that just like sexually aggressive OW...these women will not behave in the same way once they are in a stable, long term relationship.That the aggressive persona is not really who they are. Its more a means to an end.

For most married women...taking the initiative in their minds is approaching their husband in a romantic way...snuggling up... giving him a hug and kiss... a back rub.Subtle..not overt.

We tend to do the things that we want to be done to us.
Most women do not initiate by grabbing the guy by the ...and dragging him into the bedroom.
That happens in the movies...and in illicit affairs ....because in both of those the people involved are role playing.
That's why OW/OM are often very different in how they act with their own spouses as opposed to the AP.The affair starts out as a fantasy situation and does not evolve into anything else...so all they can do is role play to keep it going.


Me- BS
Him- WH
Long term marriage
D-day- Jan. 2007
5 yr. LTA
Reconciled.


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atsenaotie
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Default  Posted: 8:12 PM, November 14th (Monday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

honest, are you out there? Are you doing OK?

just as little concerned


LTA BS 53
FWW 60
M 1990, dday 10-5-09
Reconciled

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Default  Posted: 10:05 PM, November 14th (Monday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

first: (((wye)))

you do what you gotta do one step at a time, even if the steps are by the second....take some time in between all of it to just breathe, even if its really late and you know sleep is needed, before you close your eyes for sleep, close them and and just listen to your breath for a minute, then allow yourself to drift off....

i don't know what your mom's issues are, i suspect diabetes....unfortunately this outcome is more common then you could or would believe...

not only get her help in the form of counselling but physical therapy asap....they will work with her to help her adjust...and also maybe look into rehab centers that are live in...usually they are in nursing homes so that she could get the initial care that she will need to learn to live with her sich...

and finally also check with the social worker for home aides for when she does go home...i don't know the age or general health of your mom, but if she is able prostestics can give one their life back...


ok...

tryn: when i first skimmed your post yesterday i triggered at the use of the word "hole"..i triggered because i WAS the "hole" in my marriage, i was also raped by my own husband, the nite i KNEW i was a "hole"...it wasn't until i learned about all of his activities that i then realized that i was nothing more then a "hole" for most of my marriage....

anyways...its different for women...especially women of my age, your wifes age...etc...for us, at least most of us we were brought up NOT to initiate with men, to always let the man take the lead, ask you out, time and time again he is to be the one to initiate most things within the relationship....the old fashioned roles....even though i was raised to be independent i was still raised to be old-fashioned because that was just the way it was then....

did your wife say she felt like a hole or is this you projecting....projecting your feelings of rejection...even though she really has not rejected YOU...her issues have nothing to do with you i believe...

and in your wifes case she was the adulturer and is probably wary of how you now percieve her, and she may not feel comfortable to let loose out of fear...

i suspect your wifes reactions in general are mostly made out of fear...and the fact that she has yet to ever really face them means that she will forever deal with them as opposed to facing them and conquering them...

and i also suspect that she does not feel worthy of you which compounds the issues..


ats, dp and nell:

you are all moving forward towards being "single", whether it be immediate or down the road....

making the choice as hard at it is, living it becomes even harder at times....especially when you are still living together...i am looking forward to the time when i am no longer living with pfm who is driving me somewhat over the brink...

i am not going into the particulars...he is just refusing to let me go, doesnt except that i am done, and refuses to acknowledge his actions for what they were and are....he then tells me he loves me...laughable actually...if he truly loved me the "new" friend would never have existed just like the "old"
friends wouldnt have existed....thats not love in any way shape and form...

anyways my patience and tolerance seems to be teetering on the edge....i may not be able to hold out much longer within this relationship such as it is..

oh, and the best part while we were at war yesterday my dd was home and listening...not sure how much she heard, but i know she heard enough including my yelling at him that i want a divorce asap....she won't tell me what or how much she heard...


in the meantime....i got my grades for the last 2 course..."a's" in both....so yay me....


(((tribe)))

and jollum i love that you are right...none of us have to be alone in our journey....



i am taking my life back, one step at a time!!!!!

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Iwant... I got that "hole" from you. I am sorry to trigger you. This is about me learning to never make my W feel like a hole… This is really about me. I need to believe my W does not need to initiate and be at peace with that. My W will initiate (not sex) and lie next to me on the couch when we watch a movie. Sometimes, she grabs my hand when we are walking. And, she rarely says no to me when I do initiate. Why cannot I be happy with opening my eyes and seeing all the good? I think if I could hurdle this battle, get even better at the forgiveness acts, I might be able to take my happiness to another level.

As for your DD hearing you, I’m sure this is not news to her. Kids are pretty smart. All you can do is make sure she knows you love her. Congratulation’s on the A’s…

Thanks ladies…

[This message edited by trynhard at 5:32 AM, November 15th (Tuesday)]


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miracle,
On the As: YAY, YOU!!!!!
On the stupidity: 180.

njgal,
I believe WH already does regret everything. He will miss his family and his nice, cushy life. But his regret is quite self-absorbed and has never turned outward either in remorse or in actions. So here we are. Thanks for the prayers, I'll take 'em.

We went through the legal papers last night. Dry and depressing. WH has to sign one thing before I file and then we looked over the financial disclosure we both have to complete. Then we (I)watched Hawaii 5-0 for a fantasy fix. Today I forwarded my lawyer's recommendations for WH's attorneys to him and we have a 2 p.m. phone interview with a mediator. (I feel like we're putting the cart before the horse with that one, but it will do no harm so okay.) Tomorrow morning we meet (just WH and me) with a potential counselor for the Boyos. Small steps on a big-ass journey.

Speaking of which, I need to journal some stuff I was turning over in my head on the car ride into work.

Hugs to all. WYE, I'm keeping you top of mind. Ats and deep, how are you doing, brothers? I hope honest checks in.

XO - Nell

[This message edited by ImNellNow at 11:48 AM, November 15th (Tuesday)]


BS & D
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aaarrrrrrrrgggghhhhh!!!!

I hate my life. I've been wrestling with FWW's A and mind movies for the last couple of weeks and now this.

We know a couple that used to go to our church and we became semi-friends with. I always told FWW that I felt funny around female half of this couple as she was so very hung up on her self and made no bones about it. Fast forward a couple of years and you guessed it, she is having an A and destroying the male half of this relationship. They both sort of disappeared after that. Fast forward another 8 years or so and she is back in church stating they have remarried but he is never with her. Told FWW somethings not right. Move ahead another year and she announces to FWW she is divorcing him again. FWW knows I can't stand being around her but tries to be nice to her most of the time. Well yesterday miss toxicity corners FWW and FWW tells her she had an A also and how it about destroyed us. Miss toxicity however has never come out of the fog and is telling FWW that her ex wanted her to act grateful that he took her back, etc. FWW is telling me this and says maybe she could talk to her and help her understand how wrong her thinking is. Miss toxicity is wanting to go out to dinner and hang out with FWW so they can "talk". I've told FWW that I'm freaking out about this and she has told me she will not jeopardize all we've worked for. I want to believe this but this is how it started last time. FWW worked with a whore and just constantly told her how wonderful it was and FWW got the idea it might be. 4 yr LTA later and 2+ years of recovery (not reconciliation yet) and just the fact miss toxicity is around is driving me crazy. FWW is doing everything right with telling me about contact with her (as far as I know) and I'm still freaking out. FWW knows the other women is toxic but I am just dieing inside worrying about going through this shit again. I want to believe it won't happen but the best indicator of future performance is past behavior and I don't know that I'll ever feel like FWW understands enough of what she did to prevent something like this from happening again. Just want to curl up into a ball today and pretend the world doesn't exist.

Thanks for listening.


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(((((jollum)))))
I am so sorry.
I hope this is just a blip on the radar...
Nell


BS & D
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((((((ATS, DP, WYE, Nell, Tryn and everyone else))))))
Maybe it's the time of year but it seems there is so much of a downward slide to many of our tribe's lives including my own. I wanted to let each of you know that I am praying and thinking of you in each of your incredibly tough situations. We will all make it. Our lives have been all been sent down a path none of us would have chosen but take heart that we have each other to walk with on the journey. We are not alone unless we choose to be.

I just thought this bears repeating. {{{LTA}}}

I'm psyching myself up for the retirement celebration at H's work this Saturday... still don't know if OW will be attending. His office manager is receiving RSVPs and he says no reply so far. He's out of town until tomorrow night and away all day Thursday also, so plenty of time to fixate on the A... so many triggers all rolled up in to one day!

I know this doesn't compare to WYE's situation or the pain others are experiencing but it is overwhelming my world at the moment.

Now I'll catch up on the rest of the posts and hope I haven't put my foot in my mouth/keyboard big time.

LS


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lostsuol,
Hugs!!!

BTW, I had to come on here to share a funny moment... WH has announced twice this week that he is going to "proactively seek counseling" to deal with his issues. And in my twisted head, I hear Inigo Montoya's voice saying, "I do not think it means what you think it means." I'm not sure how you *proactively* do something you should have done four or more years ago. Perhaps he can go back in time; if so, I've got a list of other stuff he can do while he's back there.

[edited to fix Inigo Montoya's last name.]

[This message edited by ImNellNow at 1:27 PM, November 15th (Tuesday)]


BS & D
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I think I am the only person in LTA who has been divorced, so all I want to say to those of you traveling that path now is that it will be better than OK. There will be hard days but I doubt you will regret it.

Love to the tribe.

PS -- Baby Paddy has officially graduated from physical therapy. She's down to occupational therapy once every other week. She's still bald. Current favorite words: "mine" "where's The Pasha?" and "I love you mimi".


BW 38, 5 kids
Dday Dec. 2009

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