Cheating Hurt by Infidelity
Betrayal Wayward Donations lying
Welcome

Forums

Guidelines

Find a Local Counselor

The Healing Library

Media

Contact Us
lies
cover
In Association with Amazon.com
Support
Infidelity -
-
Find a Local Couselor
You are not logged in. Login here or register.
[Register]
Newest Member: Depressed4ever (43230)

I Can Relate     Print Topic    
User Topic: N P D Thread part 10
Faithful w/Love
♀ Member
Member # 33128
Default  Posted: 11:55 AM, March 7th (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I think I belong here. I feel my wh is NPD for many many reason also i think he always has been.
Reading some post he has no empathy for what he has done, he is self loathing, all about him, controlling, has been abusive, always his way, gets mad about the little things, feels entitled, treats family like shit mainly me but charming and will go out of his way for others outside the home, feels he owns me, can not talk about anything bad he has done, blames me and the marriage for all his wrong doing's, he use to think people were following him because he was doing so well for himself, always feels like people talk about him behind his back, he thinks the strangest stuff about what people think about him, always talks about other woman (like my other ho would get it for me) then say he was just joking.
maybe I don't belong here but he sure is fitting the script. Also, he is wanting to move out but has not made a move and I told him to go, but he will bring it up everyday as he is trying to hug me or kiss me. Told he has to keep everyone else happy at work because they are all woman, I said what am I he said a woman, then turned around and said you know you are still my wife.
I don't you guys tell me please if I am wrong. By the way he is nice to me like a roomate or friend as long as I dont bring anything up.


BS(ME)40 WH(HIM)37
DD 19 and DS 15
Separated Aug 2012
Moved back home Oct 31 2013
False R. Still Lying.
Will be divorcing soon!
"You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have"!

Posts: 2459 | Registered: Aug 2011
SoHurt
♀ Member
Member # 1210
Default  Posted: 12:48 PM, March 7th (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Faithful, it sure sounds like you belong here. Keep reading, and read threads back as far as they go. I'm sorry you find yourself here, as it's probably the least desired position to be in. But we'll help you as much as possible.

(((((Faithful)))))

Edie, just tell it as you can. And as for being verbose, I am that way a lot. Some of my posts read like novels. It seems that one thing brings up another which brings up another... until you've written for what feels like hours. Just do it as you can.

(((((Edie)))))

TellIt, you sound a lot like me. It's hard to see the small things they do, until you realize who they are and start looking at each thing. I have so many incidents coming up that piss me off in hindsight... but at the time left me wondering if I was crazy. Just hang in there, and keep looking back. Tally up what you see. I'm in a place of being angry that I allowed so much... I think that's pretty common. But don't blame yourself. They are really screwed up, and it doesn't always come blazing out of the gate at you.

(((((TellIt)))))


"My feet are finally beginning to heal after 25 years of walking on eggshells."
"I walk barefoot all the time, now!"
~Me, SoHurt, in HIS NPD TAIL HURTS CUZ I KICKED IT~

DIVORCED!! =D


Posts: 463 | Registered: Mar 2003 | From: I am "Somewhere else." Next destination?
jjct
♂ Member
Member # 17484
Default  Posted: 7:05 PM, March 7th (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

w/l, you'll get to where you won't touch him with a ten foot pole, it just takes time to get there. Then, you pretend you're the old you...snookered...like the old you....to keep them in the dark to your new awareness and changes. Then? honestly, I don't know. I think every one on this particular thread in anonymous land wants you to run - it's the exception on SI, and that's a good thing.
Wait, that's a great thing.
Wait.
That's a beautiful thing!

When the sound of your jaw hitting the ground resonates, there's no doubt. You belong.

Dammit!

Keep throwing you crumbs as long as you don't bring his abuse up?
Eff that girlfriend! Now that you know that game, time to play it to your advantage.

Their fundaMENTAL problem is they think we're as stupid as they are.

They are locked in a box of self-loathing, they have not been able to escape it, and you don't have the key.

Get that first.
Despite your awesome awesomeness, you
don't.
have.
the key.

Fixer that you are, empathy filled soul, you don't.

*Get* that you cannot process negatives, relieve yourself of blame for being unable to fix it. It's not you.

It's them. The negative. The no there there.
The thing you cannot process.

Make your plan and run...if you're new here get jogging anyway

away away
from these toxic ones!


Posts: 6032 | Registered: Dec 2007 | From: texas
Faith2011
♀ Member
Member # 30946
Default  Posted: 7:30 PM, March 7th (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I've maintained NC/No Reply for 7 months. He finally stopped trying to contact me last November but then emailed my daughter to get a response.

I told her it was up to her if she wanted to contact him (he left without even saying goodbye to her after the A) but my advice was to ignore him, which she did.

He finally stopped 2 months ago. I finally breathed a huge sigh of relief.

Until today. He text me with some stupid lame excuse. I was so angry I had to phone a friend to stop myself texting back FUCK OFF LOSER.

Do they EVER stop?

No. They don't. Unless they have a new N supply, they will not stop.

It's exhausting and distressing. Okay maybe in a few days I'll be over it again. I'll get on with my life.

All I can say is be prepared to have the NPD continue to try to suck you in. Pray they get a new N supply. But then you have to feel sorry for their next victim.

Oh now he's enlisted the help of his sister. The one who knew about the A but didn't tell me.

Now she's emailed me with the pretext of wanting to know how I'm doing. After months of *sound of crickets*.

They really do think we are as stupid as them.

[This message edited by Faith2011 at 7:32 PM, March 7th (Wednesday)]


BS me
XNPDWH him
DDay Jan 2011

"Live the best life possible."


Posts: 356 | Registered: Jan 2011
sadtoo
♀ Member
Member # 2027
Default  Posted: 9:08 PM, March 7th (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Do they EVER stop?

No. They don't. Unless they have a new N supply, they will not stop.


Get this: My XNPDH had OW#1 and OW#2. And they were fighting over him. He was STILL harassing me. OW#2 was even sometimes WITH HIM while he was harassing. She even came WITH him to each and every one of our hearings for our divorce.

I'm going on three years <<knocking on wood>> with no sightings and no harassment. So maybe there is hope.


It is what it is, not what we hope it can be.

When another woman takes your husband,
sometimes the best thing you can do for
yourself is to LET HER HAVE the worthless
bum.
OC born 2001
Divorced 2003
Remarried 2008 (New Guy)


Posts: 7927 | Registered: Aug 2003 | From: Iowa
Faith2011
♀ Member
Member # 30946
Default  Posted: 6:28 AM, March 8th (Thursday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Maybe there is sadtoo

I can't wait for the day!


BS me
XNPDWH him
DDay Jan 2011

"Live the best life possible."


Posts: 356 | Registered: Jan 2011
Faithful w/Love
♀ Member
Member # 33128
Default  Posted: 8:52 AM, March 8th (Thursday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

My Story:
I need the help PLEASE.
My story, well Aug of 2009 I got the red flags of a co worker by the way he talked about her. I told him I was not comfortable with him around her, he said I have nothing to worry about, just a co worker, then I started to see all this texting going on and when questioned he would get pissed, then I checked the cell bill and sure enough there were thousands of texts to her. Well that started ww3 for us. The affair was full blown by Nov 2009.. He never hid it, but would denie it if you know what I mean? He would go out all the time, stay out till 4-5am, he would come home with new clothes, shoes, cell phone, PS2, money, even was put on her credit card till I found out and then he would get pissed at me for calling him out stating just a friend, then she came to our home and my kids got to see them fight and him call the police on her, this still did not end it for them, he would put us on speaker phone so she could hear us fight, she would text me and call me when they were fighting stating she wanted her lawn mower back, or the bike she gave him. He allowed her to do this and said it was me who called her and texted her even after I showed him that it was not me, it was not until I changed my number that he beleived me. I guess the affair is over now, about 2 months I think now, she sleeps around alot and also wanted him to leave me and kids, and he would not. He told me she has mental issuse he was unware of... Anyways back to us, sense they spilt, he now wants to move out, get his own place for 6 months to clear his head and move on. He will not be with her but wants to be alone. In all this he stays home now, doesn't text like before, but he is all about him now, told me he does not love me and it is time for us to end, the feelings are not there for him, but he wants us to be nice to one another, and that I will always belong to him.
We have been together sense we were very young 18 and 20 so almost 18 years.
What I don't understand is sense they ended the "friendship" he has done another 180 on me with all this crap of leaving me, doesn't love me, he is hurting, he is feels it is best, blah blah, while in the affair he would say things like, please wait for me, don't leave me, I love you so much, I'm so screwed up, what am I doing, how could I do this to you, but if I made him mad then he would say, I need my freedom, I need space, it is not what you think, it is not this or that. But then he would leave to be with OW.
This has been going on for almost 3 years and I waited in faith that he would see the light but I got smacked in the face again with how he is now feeling.
He is all about his apperance, him him him.
Before the affair, he was abusive when he would get pissed or drunk. If I came back at him with words the fight was on. He also is a nit picker of me and the way I clean(deep clean 2x a week) if I missed a spot, he gets mad about little things, he is very charming and a flirt with other woman, and he would always dog me out in front of family about something stupid. He would get pissed if I was drinking and loss my balance alittle going downstairs, or he would talk about our sex life to other man, or say "faithful likes it that way or something embarrassing" and the men would actually be like "man why you dogging her out like that"? He has stopped all that but that is how he was. He also use to tell me how beautiful I was, how perfect I was and that I was on a pedestal until I told him I did not want to be on a pedestal it was to hard to keep it up.
He always told me I was a good woman... see what I mean about the back and forth???
He told me last night that he will never have compassion, empathy, symathy for me. I said Ok. And let me know again he is sorry but he does not love me the way I need to be loved.
He always puts me into his feeling stating we don't love each other and I let him know don't include me in his shit storm, I do love him, I have been through hell and back and I stand here as his wife.. but that does not count in his world.

I let him know to go as soon as possible so that I can start living again, because it is to hard with him in the house, and I want the hurt to stop. He said he will and that he will not get in the way of my life, and that he hopes to stop hurting also.

then I walked into the house and he was hold our grandson and I must of looked at him mean and he said why are you frowning at me, and called me a trick in front of our daughter.. She was pissed.
Then he went back to being nice and asking me what I was making him before bed.. I said nothing and I didn't make him anything.
Then he texted me this morning saying "good morning what time did you come to bed?

I need your help for myself if anything.
Thank you so much.


BS(ME)40 WH(HIM)37
DD 19 and DS 15
Separated Aug 2012
Moved back home Oct 31 2013
False R. Still Lying.
Will be divorcing soon!
"You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have"!

Posts: 2459 | Registered: Aug 2011
SoHurt
♀ Member
Member # 1210
Default  Posted: 10:29 AM, March 8th (Thursday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((((Faithful)))))

He sounds NPD to me. From all the reading I've done, everything you said is classic NPD. I also have a mean drunk, so I know what you mean.

If he does move out, it won't be to "clear his head." It'll be manipulation and he'll have a woman or two going on. They use that a lot, from what I've seen. It gives them the ability to do what they want without you knowing as much about it.

But your problem will be that he won't stop his abuse of you. He will continue to pull you in, because that's what they do. When he is nice, saying you're a good woman or that he loves you, it is "honeymooning" you into staying. They are really good at keeping us hanging there, waiting for more. People talk about "crumbs" being tossed to us... those are the crumbs.

But the bottom line is, if he's NPD, you're going to have to make a decision: live this way, or get away. For most, it's get away. It has to be. NPD's are very toxic, and dangerous most of the time.

We are here to support you, and help you figure out what to do. Just keep posting and start on a plan to get out. Living with them is really not an option, because they are just too unstable. They are also unfixable. Their brand of broken just can't be fixed. If you haven't read the previous threads, please do. Read books that are suggested, and make your plan.

(((((Faithful))))) Hang in there and keep posting.


"My feet are finally beginning to heal after 25 years of walking on eggshells."
"I walk barefoot all the time, now!"
~Me, SoHurt, in HIS NPD TAIL HURTS CUZ I KICKED IT~

DIVORCED!! =D


Posts: 463 | Registered: Mar 2003 | From: I am "Somewhere else." Next destination?
Faithful w/Love
♀ Member
Member # 33128
Default  Posted: 10:37 AM, March 8th (Thursday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thank you so hurt.
I just am waiting for him to leave. I know this is toxic but tell my heart that.. that is the only way that I have stayed... the crumbs so to say.
I love how he just told me WE tried and lost it right now...
That pissed me off, NO you did not try. I did the trying, I did the research, books, therapy, the waiting, giving love when I should of.

Anyways, he is doing me a favor now. And I know he will have woman and well maybe he will find someone worthy of him.

I know he wants to be free but he doesn't want me to be free. make sense.

I will be free of this crazy making one way or another.
Thank you for your support.


BS(ME)40 WH(HIM)37
DD 19 and DS 15
Separated Aug 2012
Moved back home Oct 31 2013
False R. Still Lying.
Will be divorcing soon!
"You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have"!

Posts: 2459 | Registered: Aug 2011
Edie
♀ Member
Member # 26133
Default  Posted: 11:07 AM, March 8th (Thursday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I know he wants to be free but he doesn't want me to be free. make sense.

Sounds like you have his number, Faithful.

(((faithful)))


Maybe a long walk in the Hindu Kush would do it?
BW (me) 52
FWS 55
Together 29 years; 2 DDs 15 & 12
Dday Dec 08 (confessed) Feb 09 16 other OW confessed. OW17 tried her unedifying hardest until Aug 09. R'd.

Posts: 4960 | Registered: Nov 2009 | From: UK
Faithful w/Love
♀ Member
Member # 33128
Default  Posted: 11:12 AM, March 8th (Thursday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

You think so Edie? It has always been that way, he can do as he pleases and then if I do shit hits the fan.
Crazy huh.
He will hate it if I were to start hanging out or met someone one day. Oh well this is his choice not to be with me and fix his brokeness.


BS(ME)40 WH(HIM)37
DD 19 and DS 15
Separated Aug 2012
Moved back home Oct 31 2013
False R. Still Lying.
Will be divorcing soon!
"You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have"!

Posts: 2459 | Registered: Aug 2011
Edie
♀ Member
Member # 26133
Default  Posted: 11:22 AM, March 8th (Thursday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

What I don't understand is sense they ended the "friendship" he has done another 180 on me with all this crap of leaving me, doesn't love me, he is hurting, he is feels it is best, blah blah, while in the affair he would say things like, please wait for me, don't leave me, I love you so much, I'm so screwed up, what am I doing, how could I do this to you, but if I made him mad then he would say, I need my freedom, I need space, it is not what you think, it is not this or that

I suppose I interpret this as not wanting to be needed, or being seen as needful. Especially by you. And then trying to hook you again 'because he can' mentality.


Maybe a long walk in the Hindu Kush would do it?
BW (me) 52
FWS 55
Together 29 years; 2 DDs 15 & 12
Dday Dec 08 (confessed) Feb 09 16 other OW confessed. OW17 tried her unedifying hardest until Aug 09. R'd.

Posts: 4960 | Registered: Nov 2009 | From: UK
Faithful w/Love
♀ Member
Member # 33128
Default  Posted: 11:41 AM, March 8th (Thursday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Edie,
Can you explain the needful and needed thing in great depths for me?
I am not stupid but this is new to me for the NPD and maybe you can explain him to me better because I am in the middle of the storm if you know what I mean.
Thank you so much.


BS(ME)40 WH(HIM)37
DD 19 and DS 15
Separated Aug 2012
Moved back home Oct 31 2013
False R. Still Lying.
Will be divorcing soon!
"You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have"!

Posts: 2459 | Registered: Aug 2011
sadtoo
♀ Member
Member # 2027
Default  Posted: 1:14 PM, March 8th (Thursday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

FWL,
The first thing I would suggest is to stop engaging with him. Remember the make up of an NPD:

1) Self Serving / Selfish
2) Pathalogical lying
3) Control freak
4) No respect for boundaries
5) No empathy

All he cares about is himself and getting what HE wants. So he lies, manipulates, hides, cheats, and destroys other people in order to get that.

You MUST disengage from him. He is poison to your soul. NOTHING he has said to you has been the truth. "We're just friends" = LIE ; "The affair is over" = LIE; "I want to move out and clear my head" = LIE;

All of the "mixed messages" are what we call the crazy making of the NPD. The walking on eggshells. You don't know if you're coming or going, or rather if he is coming or going. But this is how they like it. They WANT you off balance.

You're never going to make sense of this nonsense because it's just that, nonsense. And the only way for you to begin to have clarity is to disengage and go NC. You need to establish some boundaries. If he needs to move out to "clear his head", don't engage or try to reason with the "why".

You need to start thinking about what YOU need here. If your goal is to get out of the relationship and he is offering to go, rather than focusing on "why" he is going, just say "ok" and let him go. Don't engage. Don't listen to any of the gibberish that comes out of his mouth about ANYTHING. It's all lies anyway.

You have been in this vicious cycle for three years. With NPD's the cycle doesn't change until YOU change.


It is what it is, not what we hope it can be.

When another woman takes your husband,
sometimes the best thing you can do for
yourself is to LET HER HAVE the worthless
bum.
OC born 2001
Divorced 2003
Remarried 2008 (New Guy)


Posts: 7927 | Registered: Aug 2003 | From: Iowa
SoHurt
♀ Member
Member # 1210
Default  Posted: 1:17 PM, March 8th (Thursday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

maybe he will find someone worthy of him.

This stood out clearly for me. YOU are the one who needs to find someone worthy of YOU. He is broken, he is unfixable, and he will only continue to hurt people. That is NPD.

But you, you gave it your all, and you did the work for both of you. Why do you feel unworthy at all? If you are the one willing to do so much, that makes you a caring, generous person. Your statement above says you didn't do enough, or weren't good enough. Don't do that to yourself.

NPD's are great at making us feel we are worthless. But that is not true; not at all. Look back and see what you did that he didn't or wouldn't do... look at how he treats you versus how you treat him. And then understand that he is making you see yourself as less than you are. That is the sneaky, sly NPD ritual.

Faithful, you deserve so much more than he's given you. You have to start seeing that and feeling it. You are worth more.

(((((Faithful)))))


"My feet are finally beginning to heal after 25 years of walking on eggshells."
"I walk barefoot all the time, now!"
~Me, SoHurt, in HIS NPD TAIL HURTS CUZ I KICKED IT~

DIVORCED!! =D


Posts: 463 | Registered: Mar 2003 | From: I am "Somewhere else." Next destination?
Faithful w/Love
♀ Member
Member # 33128
Default  Posted: 2:09 PM, March 8th (Thursday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Sad and sohurt,
You know I see myself as this beautiful woman, huge heart, I love to love people, I love to take care of my family, I love to help people, I love being a good hearted person, I love to smile at people when in passing, that is me... I guess I don't understand why he doesn't want that no more?
I feel he used me up for 18 years and now its over.
I know these are his problems but it hurts. It hurts like hell because I had no choice in anything really except for me but not for us.
I dont feel he is still in the affair but I feel there will be another one or it will spark back up.
I am co dependant and I think that comes with being married to someone who throws their control over the home.
I am letting him go, I just need to learn (please help me on this) not to engage with him. And to be honest I will be the first to do it..because I have so much to say and try to get through to him... and I know it wont happen and he doesn't want to see it... so I need to learn to STOP THAT!

What is so crazy is that I actually feel for him. I feel saddness for him, I have always been someone that actually could feel others pain and I mean feel it like I was them. I don't know how I ended up with that but it sucks and that is why it is so hard for me to hurt someone else, embarrass them, make them feel low, or tell them about themselves... I am overly senstive unless you hurt my kids then I am hell on wheels..lol...
Well please tell me or show me examples of how not to engage... PLEASE.
Thank you all so much.


BS(ME)40 WH(HIM)37
DD 19 and DS 15
Separated Aug 2012
Moved back home Oct 31 2013
False R. Still Lying.
Will be divorcing soon!
"You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have"!

Posts: 2459 | Registered: Aug 2011
Faithful w/Love
♀ Member
Member # 33128
Default  Posted: 2:11 PM, March 8th (Thursday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

okay he just texted me...
Day is done... hope we have something good for dinner...

I did not respond....
Do you see what I mean now and he was just telling me like 2 to 3 hours ago he did not love me? URRGGHHH


BS(ME)40 WH(HIM)37
DD 19 and DS 15
Separated Aug 2012
Moved back home Oct 31 2013
False R. Still Lying.
Will be divorcing soon!
"You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have"!

Posts: 2459 | Registered: Aug 2011
SoHurt
♀ Member
Member # 1210
Default  Posted: 4:38 PM, March 8th (Thursday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Faithful, the best advice I got was to learn to just say, "Ok." and "Uh huh." Play dumb. "What?" Ignore what he says that is geared to sucking you back in.

I had/have a really hard time not engaging. For nearly 25 years, I thought I was married to someone who was hearing me, who could understand my pain. He gave a good imitation of it at times. It was the hardest thing in the world for me to fathom that NPD's DON'T feel what we feel. They just can't.

Still, even after all I've learned, I want him to understand. Even though I know he can't, I want it. I want to feel heard. I want him to understand, through to his core, what he's done to me. I think that's one of the hardest things, because it's not fair, and we feel it's letting go. Letting go of what was done, of what was said... and that hurts. It's really difficult for me to grasp that he'll never GET IT. My tag line used to say, "He GETS it." Not anymore.

The best way, I think, to stop engaging is to just 180 and do for yourself and your kids. As someone with a lot of empathy, it's hard to understand that they can't and won't understand US. Turn around and do something for you or your kids. Do something that makes you happy. Knit, jigsaw puzzle, garden... anything that takes you away.

Easier said than done, I know. I am right there with you. It feels impossible, but others here say it works, if you keep doing it, and I'm getting better at it, though I still suck at it. It's against your nature, against mine, but it's necessary.


"My feet are finally beginning to heal after 25 years of walking on eggshells."
"I walk barefoot all the time, now!"
~Me, SoHurt, in HIS NPD TAIL HURTS CUZ I KICKED IT~

DIVORCED!! =D


Posts: 463 | Registered: Mar 2003 | From: I am "Somewhere else." Next destination?
jjct
♂ Member
Member # 17484
Default  Posted: 6:24 PM, March 8th (Thursday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Ok, here's a secret, and this is why I posted this a bit back, just get this...
you say

I am letting him go, I just need to learn (please help me on this) not to engage with him.

Instead of using "STOP THIS!"

(stop thinking of a pink elephant!)
...

How about
engaging with yourself! Instead?

Turning your focus on YOU, what YOU need to be

...to be your own awesomeness,
reduces the manipulations to so much
blah blah blah

Seriously, I got to the point when I had to stifle laughter, I mean gut outloud lol, so as not to clue her in I was on to her manipulative games.

Take the focus off 'why he does this that or the other assclownishness'

Put it on YOU.
You deserve it.


Posts: 6032 | Registered: Dec 2007 | From: texas
juki
♀ Member
Member # 34784
Default  Posted: 8:16 PM, March 8th (Thursday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

That is productive advice for those of us still IN it physically and emotionally speaking. Thank you.


Me: 45
H(Sazerac): 46
M: 25,T: 27
S24

Posts: 550 | Registered: Feb 2012
Topic Posts: 1000
Pages: 1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · 5 · 6 · 7 · 8 · 9 · 10 · 11 · 12 · 13 · 14 · 15 · 16 · 17 · 18 · 19 · 20 · 21 · 22 · 23 · 24 · 25 · 26 · 27 · 28 · 29 · 30 · 31 · 32 · 33 · 34 · 35 · 36 · 37 · 38 · 39 · 40 · 41 · 42 · 43 · 44 · 45 · 46 · 47 · 48 · 49 · 50

Return to Forum: I Can Relate This Topic is Full
adultry
Go to :
madness  
© 2002 - 2014 SurvivingInfidelity.com. All Rights Reserved.