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Topic: N P D Thread part 10
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2_4giving4_2long
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Member # 34008 |  Posted: 1:29 PM, May 23rd (Wednesday), 2012 |     |
@ jjct
Yes it's physical control I'm talking about. He has never hit me but every other power and control wheel of abuse was a part of our M.
The fear I have is this: AND I am not paranoid. I am seeing an attorney tomorrow and geting things started . YAY for ME 
However, I KNOW him. His anger scraes me so much. I have a plan and it invovles leaving the state for a few weeks.
I am just so afraid  I worked with the most dangerous criminals and never had this kind of fear.
My attorney is requesting the Judge to have him leave the house and continue paying the bills and bringing our debts down.
I happened to find a L who get along well with the Judge and the Judge thinks she does a great job with Family Law.
My fears are real. The issue I am facing is my IRL friends and family still thinks he's a nice guy and would never hurt me.
He knows he is losing control over me and I KNOW that's the most dangerous time for a woman. I have former co-workers who still work at the shelter and they are helping me too.
I just need someone to tell me it's going to be okay. I am literally in the freeze, flight and fight stage all at once.
Thanks for all the support all of you have given me. I appreciate it so much. You are a blessing to me.
Me 52
He 49
DDay 11/06/11
Married 23 years
2 adult children.
Posts: 159 | Registered: Nov 2011 | jjct
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Member # 17484 | | Posted: 6:29 PM, May 23rd (Wednesday), 2012 | |
well dang, that's what I thought.
I would hug you so hard in real life, you are such a dear, and tell you it's ok, it's gonna be ok! You haz a plan! Imagine that!
Way. To. Go!!!!!!!!!!!
You are not crazy or paranoid.
The further away you get from these fukkers, the more truly you know that.
Then. Then? Then you'll embrace your peace. Then? You will be with your true self, not the old drama managining fixing his fuckups self.
I love you (((TRIBE)))
Imagine. Your best move.
Now imagine it used against you.
Posts: 4390 | Registered: Dec 2007 | From: texas | caregiver9000
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Member # 28622 | | Posted: 10:00 PM, May 23rd (Wednesday), 2012 | |
My fears are real. The issue I am facing is my IRL friends and family still thinks he's a nice guy and would never hurt me.
He knows he is losing control over me and I KNOW that's the most dangerous time for a woman. I have former co-workers who still work at the shelter and they are helping me too.
I just need someone to tell me it's going to be okay. I am literally in the freeze, flight and fight stage all at once.
boy did this post take me back.
ONE. Your fears are REAL. Even IF they were unfounded (and with an NPD trust your gut and that primitive brain. It has far better instincts about this stuff than our rational minds and our rational friends...)
So even if the fears were unfounded the emotion and your response to the fear is real and you are dealing with it. That is an easy sell to friends and family. "Hey, whether you agree with my fear or not, I need to trust you and rely on you to help me through this without patronizing me or arguing with why I shouldn't feel this way."
TWO. You have a plan and the friends who work at the shelter should be familiar with the "good guy" role many abusers play for the world. Lean on them and let them guide you.
As for the people who don't think he'd hurt you... my response to exactly that phrase was "did anyone think he'd hurt me like he has? With a gf? with multiple partners he met on CL? by stalking me and ranting about my failures? by financially strangling me and the kids? by disappearing?
The next step for these people who could not wrap their rational minds around the soulless body of the NPD, was to seriously inquire as to whether I thought he had a brain tumor. Because that would be a rational explanation they could accept.
Be strong. It will be okay. You will be better than okay. Don't freeze. Keep moving. Have a purpose. find your anger. The anger is very liberating and motivating.
(((big hugs.)))
This is the hardest part. But you are already in it so just keep going.
Me: 42, independent, happy, despite co-parenting with a lower muppet
FT "Stretch" (and Skew!) ;)
DS 12 DS 9
S 5/2010
D 12/2012
Posts: 3962 | Registered: May 2010 | From: a better place | woundedby2
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Member # 18522 | | Posted: 10:44 PM, May 23rd (Wednesday), 2012 | |
@Edie -- Good for you! Freedom from the NPD. Ahhhhh...peace.
@Dawn -- Keep the course. NC. NC. NC.
@2_4 -- Hugs to you. CG's advice is solid. Trust your intuition. There's a reason that fright or flight reaction exists in us.
I also dealt with the IRL friends and coworkers not being able to understand or relate to what I was going through with the Assclown. Unfortunately, you eventually just have to reduce the amount of stories/details that you relate to them. Most have no basis of understanding this level of evil. I felt like they were beginning to think that I was the crazy one. Be careful at work especially. I was eventually formally reprimanded because "the drama in my personal life was affecting my coworkers." Seriously.
Bring the crazy stories here to Tribe. We've all BTDT.
(((Tribe))) Wishing you all the best.
Me: BS
2 kids: DD14 and DS17
Him: The Assclown NPD
OW: "friend" of 15 years
Divorced! Feb. 2010
Everybody, soon or late, sits down to a banquet of consequences.
~Robert Louis Stevenson
Posts: 7221 | Registered: Mar 2008 | From: SoCal | veritas
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Member # 3525 | | Posted: 11:22 PM, May 23rd (Wednesday), 2012 |  |
I did want to poke my head in and say hi to all the newbies, and reiterate that you can never be too careful. Also, you cannot expect that people who have not dealt with NPD will understand what you're going through and why. Especially if your NPD has not escalated to outright physical violence yet.
Actions unmask what words disguise.
Love many; trust few; and always paddle your own canoe.
When you win, you teach; when you lose, you learn.
Posts: 10156 | Registered: Feb 2004 | soverybetrayed
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Member # 32948 | | Posted: 2:55 AM, May 24th (Thursday), 2012 | |
2_4, you're starting to see his "rage" phase and yes, it is extremely confusing and scary. Trust your gut, you know him and what he might do and so you need to have a back up plan to your plan. Hide a change of clothes in your garage, hide your wallet, keys and extra cash so you can get to them easily should you need to. The NPD rage would scare a cop with a gun because they happen so fast and are so extreme so please be careful.
I had the same issue with my stbx NPD and his "rages". No one believed he would hit me but the last time I asked about his "affairs" he told me that I "had better understand the consequences for asking those questions", then when I kept asking he put his fist up to my nose and screamed at me to get out of his house but it was the look in his eyes that scared the crap out of me, they were empty but yet icy at the same time. I know that sounds insane to a normal person but I swear to God that when I looked in his eyes I saw someone who didn't care if he killed me. He was always threatening to kill me and hide my body so no one would find it. I stayed calm and told him I would call the cops if he didn't leave and luckily he did leave but he has admitted to this act in court. He admitted he threatened me but he slipped an apology note under the door so he thought we were ok. See, no isn't that f'in scary? He apologizes and I am supposed to forget his death threats and the look in his eyes. Hell I would have had to sleep with a knife under my pillow and both eyes open if I stayed. My point here is that no one would ever believe that Mr Wonderful would hit me but he and I knew that if I stayed I would end up dead or beaten to a pulp.
With an NPD rage you can not be careful enough so please prepare for anything. Has he gotten physically threatening before? You said he hasn't hit you but have to seen that dead look in his eyes when he is in a rage? Watch for it the next time and if you see that dead eye look, do not wait for the next time, call the cops and get out. You need to feel like you have safety from him. Make plans with other people that if they do not hear from you within 24 hours that your npd did it. I sent an email to two different people that night telling them what happened and if they didn't hear from me in 24 hours to tell the cops my stbx killed me. I am not trying to scare you, just make sure you understand that some men never hit until they do and then you have to know how to react so you can get out. Please make an emergency plan and act on it if he raises his hand to you when raging. Your safety is most important.
Me-53
DDay 10/16/2010 DDay2 5/22/2011
Divorced 8/23/2012
I will get stronger and better but no matter where he goes, there he is....
Posts: 1131 | Registered: Jul 2011 | From: Learning who I am again! | 2_4giving4_2long
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Member # 34008 | | Posted: 4:52 AM, May 24th (Thursday), 2012 | |
HUGS to all the TRIBE.
Thank you so much for calming me down. Today I meet with my L and get the ball rolling.
And YES!! To the "ice eyes" Boy, did that make me shake me in my boots.
Hugs to you too jjct
I feel so understood on this thread
I will let you all know how my appt with my L goes.
As for peace? I have been craving peace for years.
((HUGS))
Me 52
He 49
DDay 11/06/11
Married 23 years
2 adult children.
Posts: 159 | Registered: Nov 2011 | wanttobeloved
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Member # 30986 | | Posted: 8:42 AM, May 24th (Thursday), 2012 | |
I am aware that NPD is a personality disorder and I am kinda familiar with the symptoms but I am still confused and could really use some advice.
I know that he watches porn and a lot of it whenever I leave the house even if the kids are here he shuts the door and watches for about an hour. All kinds anthing from animal porn to shemale porn.
But recently he says that he wants to take me away for the weekend to a place he knows I love and I am wondering if I should be worried.
I asked him why does he want to take me there when this thing we have is anything but love and he said he wants to try to rekindle our love.
He is working extra hours and saying that he wants to have a good time and needs to make extra money.
We hardly ever talk at home and if we do we argue and there is no intimacy at all not even holding hands and then out of nowhere he plans this trip for a weekend and says that he feels it is what we need to fix our relationship.
What is it about NPD that is so hard for a normal person to figure out, he watches porn when I am out, we are never together as a couple should be and he expects me to fix his lunch for work and do all the things he ask of me and all I can say is wow.
He complains about the kids all the time and says they do not respect him and although he as no idea that I know about the porn I keep thinking to myself what kind of respect are you showing this family when you are glued to the computer watching disgusting things.
basically what I am trying to figure out is why he would want to take me anywhere for a weekend unless it was going to benefit him so should I worry or just go and try to have fun.
BS (me):44
WH:46
4 kids, 26, 21,21,19(3 live with me)
3 grands, 9,7(live with me)and 9 months
DDAY October 26, 2010
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Posts: 357 | Registered: Jan 2011 | wanttobeloved
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Member # 30986 | | Posted: 11:47 AM, May 24th (Thursday), 2012 | |
I wanted to add that he is constantly asking me if something is wrong or if I am ok so I guess he can sense that i am not the same.
Just last night he said I should get a nanny cam so I can see what he does when I am not home almost like he wants me to find out without him telling me.
So does any of this sound crazy? Help
BS (me):44
WH:46
4 kids, 26, 21,21,19(3 live with me)
3 grands, 9,7(live with me)and 9 months
DDAY October 26, 2010
doubtful
Posts: 357 | Registered: Jan 2011 | 2_4giving4_2long
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Member # 34008 | | Posted: 1:14 PM, May 24th (Thursday), 2012 | |
Wanttobeloved
LISTEN to your gut! If he is planning on something and you feel nervous I would say to postpone it. NPD will and do horrible things and make it look like an accident.
I refuse to go anywhere with my NPD. If I have to go, I take my own vehicle and I have my grown kids there.
I am more cautious than I used to be, because I don't trust him. He's given PLENTLY of reasons not to.
Good luck. Stay safe. Learn about NPD.
Me 52
He 49
DDay 11/06/11
Married 23 years
2 adult children.
Posts: 159 | Registered: Nov 2011 | SoHurt
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Member # 1210 | | Posted: 1:16 PM, May 24th (Thursday), 2012 | |
Want, it ALL sounds crazy. But HE is the crazy one, not you. He is as nutty as a fruitcake, and you need to NOT go on this weekend.
They say and do whatever they need to in order to keep control of us, but you cannot trust anything that comes from them. NOTHING. Do not go, please. One huge thing I've learned from this tribe is that safety is the biggest concern. You have to do what it takes to get and keep yourself safe. So listen to your gut, like everyone keeps saying. It is important!
I am finally in a place to have made an appt with a domestic violence legal advocate on Tuesday. We are going to start with a dv protection order, which will keep him completely away for the two weeks it takes to go to court to see if it's going to be continued for a year or permanently. Then, the advocate will go with me, and I won't have to face him alone.
Then we will do a parenting plan, then the divorce papers. It scares the living crap outta me to take these steps, but after the last confrontation, I'm sure I don't want to see his face in this house again. Or anywhere. I'm really scared, but I am ready to do what it takes to legally protect my family.
That's where you've got to get. It's hard not to be so scared you end up paralyzed, but with all the support here, it is easier to take those steps. Keep going until you get through the next part, and then the next. It seems like too much, sometimes, I know. But you gotta keep moving through the process.
(((((Tribe)))))
"My feet are finally beginning to heal after 25 years of walking on eggshells."
~Me, SoHurt, in HIS NPD TALE HURTS~
DIVORCED!! =D
Posts: 390 | Registered: Mar 2003 | From: I am "Somewhere else." Next destination? | soverybetrayed
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Member # 32948 | | Posted: 7:17 PM, May 24th (Thursday), 2012 | |
Wantto, first you need to change everything to cheater speak. He is asking you if you are ok or if everything is ok.
Translation: what do you know and what are you planning to do? Do you know about my sicko porn, what about....
Comment: Let's go away for the weekend.
Translation: I want to get you back in line so I can eat cake.
Comment: I want to rekindle our love
Translation: I want to control you so that I can make you do whatever I want and for you to think I am up to nothing.
Comment: I want to have fun
Translation: I want to force you to try out these new sicko things I watch on porn and I need you away from family and friends who might rescue you.
Comment: He wants to have fun and needs to make lots of money
Translation: I need to pay for all this porn and to take you away and force you to do the things I like so I will be able to humiliate and control you.
Ok, so there is the translation, does anything about that sound good to you? No, well that is why he needs to regain control of you. He sense you have pulled away and he refuses to give up control because that means he has to face his demons and he won't do that...ever!
Do not go away with him, fake sick, have a headache, do whatever it takes to NOT go. If you do not want to be with him then start a plan to walk but protect yourself and your family. They are sly and the do not like to lose control or for you to assert any control of your own, they lose their NPD kibble supply if you become strong and assertive.
Me-53
DDay 10/16/2010 DDay2 5/22/2011
Divorced 8/23/2012
I will get stronger and better but no matter where he goes, there he is....
Posts: 1131 | Registered: Jul 2011 | From: Learning who I am again! | soverybetrayed
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Member # 32948 | | Posted: 12:47 AM, May 25th (Friday), 2012 | |
I have to get this off my chest or I won't sleep again tonight. Just when I think that I can finally find some peace and happiness we get the answers to some questions my attorney sent to his attorney. He denied everything, including the stuff he admitted to in our first hearing. How does he think he is gonna get away with that? We will have the same judge for the final hearing and I will make sure that my attorney points out to my stbxnpda$$ that in the previous hearing he admitted to such an such.
He actually lied in a document that will be presented at court. Is his attorney a fool or what? Shouldn't he be NOT lying about his cheating and crap? I can't figure out why his atty isn't telling him that this is the time to come clean and deal with the consequences. We did discover hidden money and another money market account that I knew nothing about. How the hell did I not know about all this stuff? He can't claim he had it before because it was with the company I got him into since I was a member. He had well over 100k in hidden money and he wanted me to walk away with nothing.
I am angry about his answers when he had the freakin opportunity to finally face what he has done and stop lying. I am angry that he hid money from me, his wife and used to be best friend, while I shared everything with him. I am angry that I have been struggling to survive while he had all this flippin hidden money and accounts. I am furious that just when I feel secure in myself and who I am I get this crap thrown at me. I don't want to be angry again, I want to be done with him and his crap. I have actually been able to see our wedding photo and feel nothing for him. Now, I want to shredd it into a billion pieces. I want him to take his NPD ass away from me and let me have what I deserve, a life without his crap and control. He is still trying to control me by refusing to give any information. Man, I hate him now.
Thanks for reading.
Me-53
DDay 10/16/2010 DDay2 5/22/2011
Divorced 8/23/2012
I will get stronger and better but no matter where he goes, there he is....
Posts: 1131 | Registered: Jul 2011 | From: Learning who I am again! | Jpapageorge
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Member # 31800 | | Posted: 2:00 AM, May 25th (Friday), 2012 | |
Hang in there SVB, you are strong enough to get through this and smart enough to see it all the way through.
Soon enough the only zebraduck you will have to deal with is the one on the side of your bathtub.
"Either get busy livin' or get busy dyin'." (and I prefer to live)
"Shame on me for kissing you with my eyes closed."
Me: FBBF
Posts: 1361 | Registered: Apr 2011 | From: California | wanttobeloved
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Member # 30986 | | Posted: 7:04 AM, May 25th (Friday), 2012 | |
Thank you, I guess as a codependent you never give up hope that one day normal will come back and crazy will leave forever.
Never gonna happen, you are right, we are starting to fight more often because I just cannot sit here and listen to his crazy comments, so when he says something that makes no sense to me I tell him about it and then he start to ramble and I zone out until he is done.
This is a terrible way to live and I am not happy. Do you ever stop wisshing that things will one day be normal.
BS (me):44
WH:46
4 kids, 26, 21,21,19(3 live with me)
3 grands, 9,7(live with me)and 9 months
DDAY October 26, 2010
doubtful
Posts: 357 | Registered: Jan 2011 | Edie
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Member # 26133 | | Posted: 7:23 AM, May 25th (Friday), 2012 | |
Thanks everybody for your congratulions and hugs to all in difficulties. I've not been posting much here because, as significant and as impact ful as the thirty years mindfuck of my NPD working relationship, it's not spousal and still anxious not to interlope here.
No matter how much I read about NPD, and I have now read screeds and books and books, it is still enormously difficult to get my head around it, as I simply cannot think non-empathically, because I keep trying to apply 'normal' thinking to an abnormal disorder. Jjct's zebra duck (and his gleeful levity) have been very helpful to me as a reminder to stop trying to puzzle it all out, and just focus on me and divesting my head, and skeleton (as its that deep after thirty years) of the NPD reflexive voice. Trouble is, that zebra duck, whilst initially a very uesful safety break metaphor, is proving to be cute little fellow, and zoo-ologically interesting, ...
The point being, I may have completed the formalities of exit, quietly behind the scenes. But in doing so, I have also blindsided my NPD in so doing and in escaping his grip and expect now some kind of vicious backlash. He's very adroit and clever with a cold and malevolent anger...so anticipating the backlash is prudent of me but nevertheless a further perpetuation of the madness and the mindfuck, as I cannot predict how it will come, or when and how to cover all bases.
But I cannot spend my life metaphorically looking over my shoulder or arguing with a voice in my head...so maybe I have to take that zebra duck down to the river and let it float down and off out into the big wide ocean.
Maybe a long walk in the Hindu Kush would do it?
BW (me) 51
FWS 54
Together 27 years; 2 DDs 13 & 10
Dday Dec 08 (confessed) Feb 09 16 other OW confessed. OW17 tried her unedifying hardest until Aug 09. R'd.
Posts: 4858 | Registered: Nov 2009 | From: UK | Edie
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Member # 26133 | | Posted: 8:28 AM, May 25th (Friday), 2012 | |
'A man came to the door oof his beloved and knocked.
A voice asked: 'who is there?'
"It is I", he answered.
The voice said: "there is not enough space here for me and you."
And the door remained locked.
After a year of soliitude and [de]privation the man returned and knowcked.
From inside a voice asked "who is there?"
"it is you", the man said.
Jalal al-din Rumi (13th century Persian poet).
Maybe a long walk in the Hindu Kush would do it?
BW (me) 51
FWS 54
Together 27 years; 2 DDs 13 & 10
Dday Dec 08 (confessed) Feb 09 16 other OW confessed. OW17 tried her unedifying hardest until Aug 09. R'd.
Posts: 4858 | Registered: Nov 2009 | From: UK | soverybetrayed
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Member # 32948 | | Posted: 11:19 AM, May 25th (Friday), 2012 | |
Jpapa, thank you, it means a lot to me that someone understands and sees that yes, I am still a strong person. Sometimes they beat you down just by their bs non-action and it takes a helping hand to smack you (metaphoically please) up side that head to get that you can fight this an make it back from crazyville. Wonder if they serve Margarita's in CRAZYVILLE? LOL
Wantto, I so understand the concept of wanting to apply normal to crazyville. No, you can never make them change, they will never "get it", they are perfect in crazyville-you are the nutty one, the sky is red cotton candy in crazyvile and don't you DARE tell them different. You will one day look at him and say "there is just too much CRAZY in your head for me. It is so very hard to accept that this "person" infront of you is NOT the person you married but you have to remember that or it will drive you nuts. I spent a year not really wanting to admit that my stbx never really loved me, that he is incapable of love and just mirrored feelings he has seen. You will slowly but surely no longer care what they are doing or who they are with. You will only stop wishing for normal when you escape CRAZYVILLE and move on without of your NPD. You must get the NPD out of your physical presence as well as out of your mind.
There is a road out of crazyville but it is very tiny and it twists and turns at the whim of the NPDs. Just follow the twists and you will discover that the before Mr. Wonderful you is waiting at the end and she loves you. The real problem lies in the fact that once to stop letting him control you then you no longer want to live with them or be near them. You will find that they get on your nerves more and your crazytalk bs detector is more finely tuned. Normal will never be normal until you decide that enough is enough and you make a change. They will never change and if you keep trying to force "normal" on them you will discover their "rage" issues. The rage is the fact that they are losing control of you and that you want out of crazyville. You do NOT leave an NPD, they leave you...or so they think.
Please take care of yourself and find peace by knowing that you are a strong person and you can find normal just not with an NPD. Don't you deserve better? Don't you deserve "Normal?"
Me-53
DDay 10/16/2010 DDay2 5/22/2011
Divorced 8/23/2012
I will get stronger and better but no matter where he goes, there he is....
Posts: 1131 | Registered: Jul 2011 | From: Learning who I am again! | exhausted lady
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Member # 30217 | | Posted: 12:07 AM, May 26th (Saturday), 2012 | |
Told him if he did it again, to expect me to get upset,
Sohurt....that's exactly why he does it. It feeds his sick need by upsetting you. ANY attention, to a NPD, is better than no attention at all. The only way to starve them is to be totally cold. No emotion, no temper flares, no ego kibbles for them. They are emotional vampires, and the feed on any emotional feedback from their victims. It helps fill the black hole of need that is what should be their soul.
For your own sanity, go totally NC with NPD if at all possible. NEVER let them know they've gotten to you, even if you have to bite your tongue off, or dig your nails completely through your palms.
Provoking an emotional response in their victims is one of the ways they feed their need. Don't let him feed on you anymore.
(((tribe)))
Sorry I've been gone for a while.....this thread is kind of hard for me to come to now that NPD has been out of my life for 2 years. I hope everyone here gets the hell out, and can look back in a couple of years saying "God, I'm glad I got out". My heart goes out to anyone dealing with NPD...BTDT...and I have the scars. It made me a lot stronger woman in the process....but it was sooo not worth it. I hope (and pray) that everyone here escapes, and thrives in their New Beginning.
I always tell people I'm not afraid of going to hell, I already lived there and I survived. 
You will too....if you get out.
Sometimes the hardest part of finally seeing through someone is accepting what you see...
God grant me the serenity to accept the people I cannot change, the courage to
change the one I can, and the wisdom to know it's me.
-Reinhold Neibuhr
Posts: 3058 | Registered: Nov 2010 | From: Colorado | SoHurt
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Member # 1210 | | Posted: 12:47 AM, May 27th (Sunday), 2012 | |
EL,
that's exactly why he does it. It feeds his sick need by upsetting you. ANY attention, to a NPD, is better than no attention at all. The only way to starve them is to be totally cold. No emotion, no temper flares, no ego kibbles for them. They are emotional vampires
I know you're right, and I sure as hell know better. I just lost it that day, though I managed to pull it back under control. Until the next time.
I'm actually doing much better at this than I thought I would, because I'm SO conditioned to respond. But when I hang on to myself, and don't bite on his bait, I feel really good when he leaves, because I know it was SO dissatisfying to him, and that makes it SO satisfying to ME!
It's really hard to learn a new way of living, but every day gives me more and more joy and hope for a real life. My kids are so much happier, too, and they are getting along for the first time since they were little. We've all seen the huge difference in our lives since he's been gone! No fighting, no bullshit... it's so calm here.
And my youngest worked up the courage to tell his dad NO when it came time to go for a visit! It was originally my responsibility to tell him there were prior plans, but my son took the wheel and did it himself! We were ALL really proud of him, and he felt really good about doing it. He said it might be harder if he has to do it to his face, 'cuz this one was over the phone, but I told him that's ok.
We worked out a code, whereby he winks at me, and I know that's the signal to tell stbx no, for him. Then he gets out of going, and doesn't have to be scared to say no. His IC is going well, and he's actually enjoying it. So things are moving along nicely, at this point.
And that's my update for now. Hopefully, I'll be able to report we got the order and he's out of our hair for good other than court dates.
"My feet are finally beginning to heal after 25 years of walking on eggshells."
~Me, SoHurt, in HIS NPD TALE HURTS~
DIVORCED!! =D
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