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Notmetoo2011
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Default  Posted: 11:34 AM, October 1st (Monday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Red,

Way to go girl! I'm sure it feels like a huge weight has been lifted off you now you have made the decision and told your parents you are going to D. Best of luck to you on your new road.

Missy,

Hi and welcome.

We were friends, it wasn't some overpowering attraction to him.

This is how it was with my SAWH too. We were good friends for two years before we started dating. I thought he was a good, honest, moral person and never dreamt he would end up with a porn and sex addiction. There were no indications back then, but of course we were only teenagers at that time. I would think carefully before having a RA. Is that who you really are? A RA will not change your current situation and in all likelihood will not leave you feeling very good about yourself. Maintain your integrity and self worth. If you decide you're done with your M then start D proceedings. Wait unti you're out of this M before you embark on another relationship. We all know the anger, hurt and rejection that goes along with being M to a SA but a RA is not the answer.

Little bee

I just wanted to reiterate what others here have said. If you don't have kids, get out now while you can with ease. If I had no kids or even very young kids I would be out the door. I so wish I had found out about what my H was up to years ago when my kids were young. It would have been hard, but I (like to think I) would have left him then while I was young enough to make a fresh start. I think D is in some ways easier when kids are young and don't really understand what is happening. I have three teenagers and a 21 year old. At the ages they are now, finding out about their father would devastate them. They are the main reason I am giving him a second chance. I have seen the turmoil D can cause with teenagers so I am prepared to watch and wait and see if our family can remain intact. Having said that, anymore acting out and I am done and I will just have to help my kids get through it as best I can.


Me-BW 47
SAWH 48
Married 25 years.
4 children
D-Day 26/07/11
Multiple PAs, ONS,

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littlebee33
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Default  Posted: 1:22 PM, October 1st (Monday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thank you everyone for their honest response. I know it must look incredibly weak and stupid to stay in this relationship since I don't have children, but it is very difficult to just walk away specially when he is definitely trying. I know love isn't enough, but I do love him. He has helped me through many difficult times and it just feels so painful to walk away without even seeing if he can get this under control. I am by no means saying that I am in it for the long haul for sure, but I'm only seven weeks out from d-day.

Kids are definitely off the table for a long time. I'm not even willing to consider it unless I have seen years of honest recovery and who knows? The marriage may end before we get there. I'm still in a lot of pain and still dealing with a lot of anger, so I don't know where I'll be once the dust settles.

Thanks again, girls.


D-Day: Aug. 10, 2012
Me - BS - 27
Him - (SA)WH - 30
No kids.
Together 6 years, married 1.5 years.

Life is never what we planned it to be.


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Missymomma
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Default  Posted: 2:20 PM, October 1st (Monday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thanks for the welcome.

Notmetoo - I am just ranting on the EA issue. Somehow it just makes me feel better to think of doing it. I didn't even date for the year we were divorced because I was following the recommendation to wait a year after D. Of course, we reconciled at the end of that first year. I am not one to jump into situations.

littlebee - I wholeheartedly agree with the others. I would not still be with WH if we didn't have kids. My WH started his acting out with drug addiction while I was pregnant. Apparently, pregnancy and kids can be a real trigger for addicts. He had obviously had other bouts with addiction that I wasn't aware of before we were married.

How many other people here are married to all around addicts? My WH can even get addicted to sugar. It is kind of pathetic. I should have been more aware because his father is a hard core addict. Alcoholic and sex addict for a long time and became a meth addict in his 60s.

Feeling a bit better today. Disclosure really put me in a funk. I have had a lot of feelings over the weekend. Thank goodness, my CSAT has done this for a long time and recommends a follow up meeting. That meeting will be for me to talk about how I feel. Since not accepting and acknowledging my feelings is a big problem, it is nice to be able to do it with her and his IC there. Can't call him a CSAT because my WH picked the person with the least experience he could find that would still pass the smell test. His guy won't even be certified as a CSAT until the end of this month. I think this is the 2nd disclosure he has ever done.

Well, just trying to feel my feelings and not express them as rage. Feeling a lot of disgust. Both for his actions and the way he has portrayed himself as the victim with so many people. The poor me stuff gets really old. Well, off to get me kids. Try to not think about this for a while.

[This message edited by Missymomma at 3:27 PM, October 1st (Monday)]


DDay - 6/15/11
R started - 7/1/11
False Discl- 9/27/12
Real Discl - 2/12/13
Poly - 3/1/13 Pass!
Me - BS (46)
WH - 52 (SA, NA, WA)
Kids: 2 littles and 1 grown
The road to recovery is long and hard. Some days I am up for it and others not!

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evephoebe1
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Default  Posted: 8:24 PM, October 1st (Monday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Okay...this is going to sound stupid, but how do you know if your partner is a sex addict? I've been married to my H 15yrs and we've been together 20.

My husband (we are in R) cheated on me for 2yrs with a woman, 20 years my junior. I just found out at the beginning of June'12 and only because I was extremely stubborn and kept looking for the evidence.

During my search, I discovered that he is addicted to downloading pics of naked women onto his android on a daily basis. He downloads hundreds. I also discovered that he was a member of many dating websites (adult ones also) and that he was able to manipulate women into sending him nude pics.

I even discovered nude pics of 3 women he works/worked with.

A few weeks after he finally admitted to cheating, I buckled under the pressure of trying to make sense of his betrayal and his porn addiction and I wound up trying to commit suicide. I was hospitalized for 3 days. During my hospitalization, another patient saw my husband come visit and shortly afterward claimed that she had a one night stand with my husband a year before. Of course, he vehemently denied it all.

He claims that he's only had sex with the one AP I know about.

What do you think?


Me: Survivor! BS (47)
Him: WH (45)
2 kids, 13 & 16
Married 15 yrs, together 20.
2 yr LTA, probably many more affairs, ONS. D-Day June 1, 2012. Then, physical abuse began.
WH's been seeking attention from other women thru our whole marriage

Posts: 61 | Registered: Sep 2012 | From: evephoebe1
Missymomma
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Default  Posted: 8:35 PM, October 1st (Monday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

evephoebe1 - (((hugs))) Sounds like an SA to me. I knew right away that my WH was an SA because he was behaving the same way he did with his other addictions. Patrick Carnes has a website, I don't know if I can post it here. Google him and you will find it. He trains the CSATs (Certified Sex Addict Therapist). Other therapists are not equipped to deal with this issue.

Getting a CSAT for myself that specialized in COSAs was the best thing I did for myself. Hope you are ok.


DDay - 6/15/11
R started - 7/1/11
False Discl- 9/27/12
Real Discl - 2/12/13
Poly - 3/1/13 Pass!
Me - BS (46)
WH - 52 (SA, NA, WA)
Kids: 2 littles and 1 grown
The road to recovery is long and hard. Some days I am up for it and others not!

Posts: 1084 | Registered: Sep 2012 | From: Texas
evephoebe1
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Default  Posted: 8:43 PM, October 1st (Monday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thank you, missymomma. I'm so much better now (although I know I have such a long, long road ahead of me).

I'll google Patrick Carnes and see what I can learn. Thanks again.


Me: Survivor! BS (47)
Him: WH (45)
2 kids, 13 & 16
Married 15 yrs, together 20.
2 yr LTA, probably many more affairs, ONS. D-Day June 1, 2012. Then, physical abuse began.
WH's been seeking attention from other women thru our whole marriage

Posts: 61 | Registered: Sep 2012 | From: evephoebe1
DixieD
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Default  Posted: 10:50 AM, October 2nd (Tuesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I DO believe that SAs can recover for a long time and be healthy individuals. It is a lifelong choice. Just as alcoholics can. So if you are young, I don't necessarily think kids are out of the question. I am an ACOA. That experience was horrific. If my mother had been in recovery, my childhood wouldn't have been as damaged as it was. Maybe my brother wouldn't have wound up addicted to heroin. (he has been clean since '97 and active in NA) ALL addictions require life long vigilance on the part of the addict and the people in their lives so that dysfunctional patterns don't emerge/reemerge.

I truly think it is impossible to find a totally healthy partner! And I fear so much that our younger generations are so damaged by the pervasiveness of gratuitous sex and violence and the continuous glamorization of drunkenness/wastedness. AT LEAST with someone who is working in IC or 12 steps you know they have a degree of self-awareness and maybe a degree of humility that will help them become a complete partner.

Scaredy Kat what you write hits so close to home.

My father was an addict all his life and he still is at almost 80 years old. My mother is trying to run around cleaning up his messes. I'm so sick of it. It's the saddest thing I've seen. To be that old and know your life sucked. To have little to look back on as a positive experience. She says the day she got married was the biggest mistake of her life.

I'm so disappointed in myself to know I did the same thing. I was adamant I wouldn't marry someone like my dad, but I did. Different addictions, but still an PA/CA addict nonetheless. I was adamant I wouldn't end up like my mother, but I did. I'm half her age and I look back and see nothing but destruction. No happiness in the past. Meeting my SAfWH as the biggest regret of my life -- and I've had a lot. I didn't used to think that way, but now I do.

My father refuses to get help, he lives in denial. My SAfWH does want to get help and wants to change. I'm more stuck than he is at the moment. I'm stuck in Year 2 anger and the resentment and depression is eating me alive. I'm not helping him or myself. I'm heaping more shame upon him and then piling it onto myself too. We are so incredibly dysfunctional right now and it feels like it's my doing because he is making inroads into healing and I'm not. How ironic --now I'm the most destructive part of this relationship.

I don't think anyone is totally healthy when they've come from dysfunction, no matter how hard they work at it. I would not want to find anyone else. I couldn't trust them. I would be emotionally unavailable. I would be an unsafe partner. I couldn't trust myself to find anyone who isn't a trainwreck or a trainwreck waiting to happen and I am a trainwreck myself.

I'd like to think an addict can get better with work and their spouse can be better too, but my parents have never shown me that. They've proved that it only gets worse. I don't want to be a senior citizen and still in an unhappy dysfunctional marriage. The fear of that is not helping me to keep going and take a leap of faith for the future, but rather to cut losses now before it's too late.

Bottom line I guess I'm in the pits of depression and rambling.


Growing forward

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scaredyKat
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Default  Posted: 4:01 PM, October 2nd (Tuesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

First, I am on my phone. Please forgive typos and such.
Dixie, your story is similar to mine, classic addictive FOO, marrying someone you believed broke the pattern, only to discover you had married the addict you grew up with. In my case, an abusive mother. Dead now, so any resolution is impossible. I swing back and forth from codep, to counterdependant, and even after 4 years, still have angry bursts. I do think you are about where I was at year two.
He subjected you to this trauma. And through his step work he is going to have to figure out how to help you heal. Yes, you have a responsibility, too, but my SAFWH's CSAT explained my angry times like this... the pressure of all the still unresolved issues, questions and feelings would just build up until they had no where to go. I NEEDED to say it all out loud yet again. To tell him what he did that hurt me. And I NEEDED him to HEAR it.
Not as great a need anymore but it still pops out now and then.
This is not a linear path, whether we choose to try healing with or without the SA in our lives. I CANNOT over emphasize that this trauma is real and soul sucking, no matter what level the addiction has reached.
Love and Light to you, Sisters, and Brothers that may by lurking. Spouses csn be male, too...


Me-BS-59
HIM-SAFWH-63
Damn autocorrect is responsible for the silly errors, sorry!

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Notmetoo2011
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Default  Posted: 5:17 PM, October 2nd (Tuesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Littlebee

Please don't think I or anyone was implying you are weak or stupid for staying in the relationship. It is an incredibly hard decision to walk away from someone you love. You don't have to rush to make any decision. Your eyes are open now, just take care of yourself and protect yourself.


Me-BW 47
SAWH 48
Married 25 years.
4 children
D-Day 26/07/11
Multiple PAs, ONS,

Posts: 262 | Registered: Jul 2011
evephoebe1
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Default  Posted: 6:12 PM, October 2nd (Tuesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

What are the signs that someone may be a SA?


Me: Survivor! BS (47)
Him: WH (45)
2 kids, 13 & 16
Married 15 yrs, together 20.
2 yr LTA, probably many more affairs, ONS. D-Day June 1, 2012. Then, physical abuse began.
WH's been seeking attention from other women thru our whole marriage

Posts: 61 | Registered: Sep 2012 | From: evephoebe1
scaredyKat
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Default  Posted: 6:50 PM, October 2nd (Tuesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

((((evephoebe)))))

Here is a link to Sex Addict Anonymous. It's for the addict, but may answer some questions for you.

http://www.sa.org/

I read your other post, and you are getting some great advice there. But I sense that you don't want to believe this horror. None of us do. And none of us are CSATs or have met you or your WHs. But we have had lots of experience with our own WHs who ARE SAs. And I guess we feel, "if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..."

There is a list of books on the first page of this thread. I really recommend "Mending a Shattered Heart" and "Your Sexually Addicted Spouse" There are other books, but IMO, these are two good ones to start with.

The very best advice I got in the beginning was to take a great breath, take care of myself, and get myself to an Sanon meeting. You will meet women IRL who have experienced your life and similar things, and can provide comfort and support.

http://www.sanon.org/

COSA is a similar organization

http://www.cosa-recovery.org/

The first meeting I went to, I was just overwhelmed. By the third, I was home. They saved my sanity.

You need to EDUCATE yourself about this disease. While SA isn't a substance issue, the brains of SAs change in a way that is similar to the changes that happen in substance abusers. And if your WH does stop for a while, it is extremely unlikely that he will be unable to maintain that sobriety without the help of therapy and 12 step meetings.
It's also very unlikely that you will know all the truth until he has been in therapy WITH A CSAT for quite awhile.

IMHO, he is a SA. Sex addicts escalate their behavior. And sex addiction is ultimately, deadly. RARELY do addicts use protection, they engage in more and more risky sex acts, leading to disease, they go to dangerous places, they spend money they can't afford (or take resources from the family) and there is a high rate of suicide among all addicts. (one member of my SAFWH's recovery group doused himself with gasoline and lit a match)
YOU CANNOT FIX HIM. And, until he hits rock bottom, and chooses recovery, he won't get into recovery or will do it half-heartedly.

There is a saying, "you didn't cause this, cannot control it, cannot cure it." It's so true. But when you are married to an SAWH, it eats at your soul, it damages your self-esteem, it kills your sense of sexuality. It is a trauma that takes YEARS to heal.

You are among friends here. We don't always agree, but we have a community that cares in an amazing way, especially since we have never laid eyes on one another.
PM me if you need to.

I am thinking of all of you and holding you in the **********LIGHT*************



Me-BS-59
HIM-SAFWH-63
Damn autocorrect is responsible for the silly errors, sorry!

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Missymomma
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Default  Posted: 7:39 PM, October 2nd (Tuesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

evephoebe1 - I second what ScardyKat stated. Those are the 2 books I read on SA, specifically. Although, I am a big fan of Carnes and CSATS. I go to CODA because I have had relationships with a couple of different variety of addicts. Carnes site is http://www.sexhelp.com/ . There is a test for yourself under Are You a Sex Addict. There is one for the sexual partner and one about betrayal bonding. These were eye opening for me.


DDay - 6/15/11
R started - 7/1/11
False Discl- 9/27/12
Real Discl - 2/12/13
Poly - 3/1/13 Pass!
Me - BS (46)
WH - 52 (SA, NA, WA)
Kids: 2 littles and 1 grown
The road to recovery is long and hard. Some days I am up for it and others not!

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Missymomma
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Default  Posted: 7:44 PM, October 2nd (Tuesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Just thought I'd post tonight. Feeling a lot better. WH or I guess he should be FWH, since it has been over a year. We were able to really talk about disclosure and how it just ripped opened the wound. After I explained that the sexual acting out wasn't what was going to be the demise of the relationship, it was not having empathy for me and holding himself accountable that would be. He was able to hear me and step up. It took a few hours, so I am cautiously optimistic. He had IC today and is at an SA meeting right now. R is such a rollercoaster. Have to think that R stands for recovery, as well as reconciling.


DDay - 6/15/11
R started - 7/1/11
False Discl- 9/27/12
Real Discl - 2/12/13
Poly - 3/1/13 Pass!
Me - BS (46)
WH - 52 (SA, NA, WA)
Kids: 2 littles and 1 grown
The road to recovery is long and hard. Some days I am up for it and others not!

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scaredyKat
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Default  Posted: 8:19 PM, October 2nd (Tuesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

it was not having empathy for me and holding himself accountable that would be.

Ahh, the very definition of an addict. It took about 3+years of active recovery before my SAfWH was able to even EMULATE empathy. They are emotionally stunted, unable to connect. SA is essentially an intimacy disorder.

Sorry to come off as a KIA. I have had too much experience with this subject. It's easy to talk about it intellectually, not so easy to heal emotionally.


Me-BS-59
HIM-SAFWH-63
Damn autocorrect is responsible for the silly errors, sorry!

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Missymomma
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Default  Posted: 8:36 PM, October 2nd (Tuesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Ahh, the very definition of an addict. It took about 3+years of active recovery before my SAfWH was able to even EMULATE empathy. They are emotionally stunted, unable to connect. SA is essentially an intimacy disorder.

Absolutely!! The lack of empathy has always been an issue. He is an all around addict, so we have been dealing with this for a long time. Intimacy is a ridiculous struggle with him. That is were the prostitutes came in, he could dehumanize them and just worry about himself.


DDay - 6/15/11
R started - 7/1/11
False Discl- 9/27/12
Real Discl - 2/12/13
Poly - 3/1/13 Pass!
Me - BS (46)
WH - 52 (SA, NA, WA)
Kids: 2 littles and 1 grown
The road to recovery is long and hard. Some days I am up for it and others not!

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scaredyKat
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*******((((((((((Missymomma))))))))********

YOU, my dear one, have been to hell and back this week...I hope you are taking some well deserved "MISSY" time.

hugs, SK


Me-BS-59
HIM-SAFWH-63
Damn autocorrect is responsible for the silly errors, sorry!

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kristind83
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Default  Posted: 10:23 PM, October 2nd (Tuesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

My WH is à SA. D-day was 9 months ago. WH has been in IC since d-day and had first appointment with csat last week. Csat recommended facing thé shadows by Carnes and no orgasms for 30 days. Next appointment is on Thursday. Feeling anxious but excited to move foreward with our healing.


Me: BS (30)
Him: WS (32)
DD 5 DS 2
D Day #1 06/13/09 EA lasting 9 months
D Day #2 12/15/11 LTA 2 years PA
Beginning to trust real R

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evephoebe1
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Default  Posted: 1:32 AM, October 3rd (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Scaredykat,

He definitely walks like a duck and I have a gut feeling that he is a SA.

Thanks for the links. My WH denies being anything but a porn addict, so he definitely hasn't hit rock bottom. He doesn't want me to leave him and I'm not planning to (he's the love of my life). Therefore, I'm sure that I am in for a very long road ahead of me (while I struggle to deal with chronic, severe depression and my suicide attempt in July '12). I'm still broken from that attempt, but time heals.

[This message edited by evephoebe1 at 1:37 AM, October 3rd (Wednesday)]


Me: Survivor! BS (47)
Him: WH (45)
2 kids, 13 & 16
Married 15 yrs, together 20.
2 yr LTA, probably many more affairs, ONS. D-Day June 1, 2012. Then, physical abuse began.
WH's been seeking attention from other women thru our whole marriage

Posts: 61 | Registered: Sep 2012 | From: evephoebe1
GeniusOrAFool
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Default  Posted: 7:07 AM, October 3rd (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

eve,

Compulsive porn use falls under the umbrella of 'Sex Addiction'.
Little does he know, his admitting he is a "porn addict" equates to admitting he is a SA. I wouldn't get too hung up on the lingo, label, or terminology. No matter what he chooses to call it, he needs professional help...starting with an evaluation by a CSAT.

Everyday that goes by in which he puts off making that 1st appt, is another day he spends fully in the grips of the SA, and another painful day for you.

he definitely hasn't hit rock bottom. He doesn't want me to leave him and I'm not planning to (he's the love of my life)

He won't hit rock bottom given the above quote. But, that is ok. He doesn't need to hit rock bottom to make proactive choices for himself, you, and the marriage.

That's not to say that 'rock bottom' won't happen for him. It may very well be in his future after the meaning and magnitude of his ongoing behaviors REALLY begins to sink in for you AND when you realize that nothing is changing despite his best efforts to make it appear that change is occurring. And you get fed up...and to a place where the prospect of staying with an untreated SA is deemed much more painful than suffering through a divorce. Rock bottom may happen when your WH realizes that you have gotten to this place...and he stands to lose everything (lifestyle, image, $$$, etc).
It's typically when the spouse of a SA files for divorce which brings the SA to rock bottom. Unfortunately, sometimes, even hitting rock bottom isn't enough (as was the case in my situation).

At the very least, in all this, please make your own appt with a CSAT for yourself.
You will get such clarity about your situation. And, you will be heard, understood, validated, and supported.

I am so sorry you are in this situation. (((((eve))))


I'm back together again.
I'm staring in the mirror
and it's been so long
since I've seen you my friend.

~Citizen Cope


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Nature_Girl
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Default  Posted: 10:22 AM, October 3rd (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

GOAF, you make many wonderful points. Some addicts don't ever hit rock bottom, even when their spouse/partner stops enabling them. Like yours, even though mine finally hit what should have been rock bottom (being kicked out of the family home & served divorce papers), he still hasn't woken up & realized he's at the bottom.

Maybe my STBX still has farther to fall. All I know is, I'm not enabling him any longer, nor will the kids & I be there to catch him when he lands. If he ever does.


Me = BS (Stay-at-home-mom)
Him = EX-d out (abusive troglodyte NPD SA)
3 elementary school-aged kids
Together 20 years
D-Day: Memorial Weekend 2011
2013 - I DIVORCED HIM, I'M FREE!
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